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Old 08-21-2008   #21 (permalink)


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Re: Hypothetical triple boot XP, Vista ,OS 10.5.1

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by mike-cow View Post
I can just add a small thing here;

I live in Sweden.

This country has a few things that are really nice about the legal system. One thing is that an EULA is not considered a valid legal document, and, regardless of there being an "I agree" box to click or not, it's not going to magically transform into one.

Another thing is that I'm LEGALLY allowed to do whatever it takes (as in decrypting, hacking, converting, disassembling, I can't kill people for it even though it could be useful at times, lol) to get something I bought working on my equipment. So Apple have no say whatsoever if I decide to run Leopard on my computer as long as I buy the OS. It's the same thing that makes it entirely LEGAL for me to rip a CD and use it in my mp3 player, or convert a movie to play it on my PS3. You can't sign away your legal rights in this country, just opt to not enforce them...
good country to live in....

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Old 08-21-2008   #22 (permalink)


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Re: Hypothetical triple boot XP, Vista ,OS 10.5.1

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by acdcfan View Post
Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
I can say this - I have found that disconnecting other drives and manually changing the boot order in the BIOS when booting works even
better,
This part right here is what I don't understand. I know how to change boot order, how to boot form CD,. Do you mean, that I need to find out which drive (drive number) my OS X is and change boot order to boot form it.
Yes, you'll need to note which HD is which number so you'll know which OS is installed on it, nd when booting you'll manually select which one. Again, though, this is only one (and not necessarily the most convenient) way to do this.

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by acdcfan View Post
Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
as then I don't have to worry about boot managers and the like. Finally, I can *suppose* that if you find a way to triple boot Vista XP and any form of Linux, then the differences between that tutorial and using Leopard in place of the Linux listed should be *minimal*.
So far I have installed SATA controller and new hard drive. Both are seen in device manager and disk management. I have left new hard drive unformatted for the time being. It did my head in for about 2 hours. After initial hardware install I couldn't see hard drive in BIOS or any of disk management. Searched high and low to find out the cause but it turned out I didn't plugged the controller properly. How silly..... All is good
Honestly, for sake of ease, I'd go with the boot manager - search for tutorials on triple booting Vista XP and Linux and follow those. Just remember that OS-X may have some surprises in store for you, so be careful what and how you do it.
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Old 08-22-2008   #23 (permalink)


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Re: Hypothetical triple boot XP, Vista ,OS 10.5.1

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt View Post
Honestly, for sake of ease, I'd go with the boot manager - search for tutorials on triple booting Vista XP and Linux and follow those. Just remember that OS-X may have some surprises in store for you, so be careful what and how you do it.
I found this forum.... Mac OS X - NeoSmart Technologies Wiki with couple of statements which are very encouraging

  1. Install OS X to a primary partition on your PC. Assuming you have the legitimate Dev Preview kit with the official OS X x86 DVD, just stick it in the drive and follow the on-screen prompts.
  2. Once OS X has finished installing, the Darwin bootloader should load up OS X for the first time. It should give you an "Other" option to boot into Windows Vista.
  3. Select "Other" and start Windows Vista.
  4. Fire-up EasyBCD, and go to the "Bootloader Management" screen.
  5. Follow the instructions here to re-install the Vista bootloader.
  6. Read the next section for info on how to add OS X to the Vista bootloader.
If these are true, my hypothetical will be smooth sailing, or I can even use Darwin bootloader
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Old 08-24-2008   #24 (permalink)


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Re: Hypothetical triple boot XP, Vista ,OS 10.5.1

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Old 08-24-2008   #25 (permalink)


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Re: Hypothetical triple boot XP, Vista ,OS 10.5.1

hypothetically speaking what I would do is disconnect the drives other than the new one.

install your OS onto the new drive as an independant system. when all is ok with the new install reconnect the other drives and set the vista drive as the default drive.

once in vista you can use BCDedit to setup the bootloader from there following part 2 of the guide you quote.

at least doing it this way you can always disconnect the new drive and get back to where you started from. and should be able to use the bios switch method if all else fails.

must add that this is not something I have any direct experience of but this way is as safe a way as I can think of
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Old 08-24-2008   #26 (permalink)


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Re: Hypothetical triple boot XP, Vista ,OS 10.5.1

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by barman58 View Post
hypothetically speaking what I would do is disconnect the drives other than the new one.

install your OS onto the new drive as an independant system. when all is ok with the new install reconnect the other drives and set the vista drive as the default drive.
How do I do that part?... In Vistas disk management vistas drive is shown as disk1....

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by barman58 View Post
once in vista you can use BCDedit to setup the bootloader from there following part 2 of the guide you quote.
Thanks
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Old 08-24-2008   #27 (permalink)


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Re: Hypothetical triple boot XP, Vista ,OS 10.5.1

If you physically disconnect the data cable and power to the two existing drives the new install will only see one drive, the new one, so whatever happens with the new install the existing systems are safe.

You should be able to set your BIOS to boot from any of the drives available once you have re-connected all three if you set your vista drive to boot first the result is the same as just having the vista drive in the computer. if you set it to boot from the mac drive then the same applies. it's what happens when the drive boots that is affected by the multiboot setup.

the link included above is the wikipedia entry for bios and goes from very basic to (via links) as advanced as you could ever want.
If the above is too basic I apologise

your Motherboard manual should give you all you need to achive a manual multiboot system look under boot order or something similar. if you haven't got a manual goto the M/B manufacturers site and download one.


All the above is of course hypothetical
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Old 08-25-2008   #28 (permalink)


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Re: Hypothetical triple boot XP, Vista ,OS 10.5.1

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by barman58 View Post
If you physically disconnect the data cable and power to the two existing drives the new install will only see one drive, the new one, so whatever happens with the new install the existing systems are safe.

You should be able to set your BIOS to boot from any of the drives available once you have re-connected all three if you set your vista drive to boot first the result is the same as just having the vista drive in the computer. if you set it to boot from the mac drive then the same applies. it's what happens when the drive boots that is affected by the multiboot setup.

the link included above is the wikipedia entry for bios and goes from very basic to (via links) as advanced as you could ever want.
If the above is too basic I apologise

your Motherboard manual should give you all you need to achive a manual multiboot system look under boot order or something similar. if you haven't got a manual goto the M/B manufacturers site and download one.


All the above is of course hypothetical
I know, and I have seen what you are writing about but I could not see it in my MB manual...
If I was to provide you with the link of my motherboard model and manual, woudl you be able to look at it and advice where I need to go to achieve above?
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Old 08-25-2008   #29 (permalink)


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Re: Hypothetical triple boot XP, Vista ,OS 10.5.1

if you post or PM me the link I'll Have a look.

first thing to do in bios is turn off the BOOT LOGO ( if enabled) so you can see the boot process
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Old 08-25-2008   #30 (permalink)


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Re: Hypothetical triple boot XP, Vista ,OS 10.5.1

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by barman58 View Post
if you post or PM me the link I'll Have a look.

first thing to do in bios is turn off the BOOT LOGO ( if enabled) so you can see the boot process
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