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| Junior Member Rep Power: 3 ![]() | UAC issues Hey all, What exactly is UAC? Is it absolutely necessary to have on your computer? Will it totally kill me to not have it running? I ask these questions because I need to have it disabled to run a certain program from my company because of the usage of ICMPv4,v6 echo/pinging that it disables. Is there a work around to enable these settings without disabling UAC? Also the last question would be that it seems like when I disable the UAC, I have security that is the same as windows XP. Is that true?? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!! Thanks, Murr |
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| ɠɛɐǨ ![]() ![]() ![]() Rep Power: 110 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: UAC issues UAC was built to stop virus`s and malware from taking control of the entire system. Checkout these Threads for more information on UAC: Vista Forums - Threads Tagged with uac User Account Control (UAC) |
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| Newbie Rep Power: 5 ![]() | Re: UAC issues As far as I am aware, UAC doesn't disable ICMP. But the Windows firewall does by default. I think all you have to do is enable ICMP echo requests through the firewall. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong....... |
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| Member ![]() ![]() Rep Power: 18 ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: UAC issues Programs, Malware and Rootkits try to install without the user intervention, and try to run with full Admin rights. UAC sees these and stops the install untill the user ok's and authorizes them(or not). Most newer programs are being written to run in restricted user rights, So any program- good or bad that requests admin rights has the ability to corrupt/damage your system, and personally I like to know what's trying to run on my system. To remove UAC is like leaving the deadbolt on house disengaged because it takes twice as long then just locking the knob. |
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| ɠɛɐǨ ![]() ![]() ![]() Rep Power: 110 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: UAC issues UAC is designed to stop anything from automatically escalating its privilege level without your consent but your right it has nothing todo with Windows Firewall However Windows Firewall does not block ICMP by default (See ICMP Screenshot below) there are other ICMP options it blocks but you change the Network location by Clicking Customize in the Network and Sharing Center (see Customize Screenshot) or use the Windows Firewall with Advanced Security under Administrative Tools in Control Panel ![]() Steven ![]() |
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| Junior Member Rep Power: 3 ![]() | Re: UAC issues Please let me know if I am way off or not. One other quick question is that by turning off UAC does it put the system in a XP style of security?? Thanks all, Murr |
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| Antidisestablishmentarian ![]() ![]() ![]() Rep Power: 106 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: UAC issues Or, if you think about it carefully, UAC is blocking the *program* from making the ECHO request in the first place - not blocking it at the network layer, but blocking the application at the physical layer. Try running the application with administrative privileges... |
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| Junior Member Rep Power: 3 ![]() | Re: UAC issues
Ok that would seem like a good idea but when I get to the application and right click on it to run as admin there is no tab to run as admin. Any suggestions? Murr | |||||||||||||||
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| Antidisestablishmentarian ![]() ![]() ![]() Rep Power: 106 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: UAC issues not a tab, when you right click on the shortcut to the application, the context menu shows a "run as administrator". If you want to make the application run as administrator permanently, then what you do instead is right click on the program / shortcut, select the compatibility tab, and at the bottom is the option to run as administrator. But I would try running it *once* as administrator using the first method to see if it works or not. Also, your app may actually be calling another application to actually make the ECHO request.... |
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| Junior Member Rep Power: 3 ![]() | Re: UAC issues
I believe this is because the software already acts as an admin. Or that is how it was originally designed to work on an XP system. Tho the problem could be in that when we wrote this software it was in XP compared to vista, so the integrations between the two are a little interesting. | |||||||||||||||
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