Vista - UAC - do you love it, hate it or deal with it?

**sassofalco** · 12-23-2008

Until June last year, I had never owned a PC or Laptop Computer before, or ever used one. Vista Home Premium came installed and since I never knew any better, and had never used any other operating systems, took the UAC as just a part of the necessary 'check-points' to help me take notice of my intentions. I have found it invaluable, as that quick 'pause' made me think twice about the repercussions of my intended actions. It has 'saved' me from stupid actions, a number of times. No problems in leaving UAC just as it is.

**Dzomlija** · 12-23-2008

It took some getting used to, but I've come to rely on UAC as just another layer of defense against stupid mistakes. During setup, it was downright annoying, but with my system running sweet, UAC has become so rare, I think the last UAC prompt I saw was several days ago.

**Neverhavemoney** · 12-23-2008

I hate the UAC. I disabled it right when i learned how to. I think it trains you to hit "ok" "accept" "yes" and other things. If you get a pop-up, since you are so used to clicking yes you will click to open it.
I don't think it was a good feature to add in.
But then again, it is just my opinion

**KrossX** · 12-23-2008

Hahahahahaha! "It trains you to click ok, accept" XD

One should always know what it's clicking... maybe there should be some kind of ... training like those for SWAT games (hostile, non-hostile targets) but for propmts (safe, unsafe?).

Although, even with the UAC enabled, it's completely useless if what the user only does is to click Allow, allow, allow. In that case, it's the same as having it disabled.

One has to read, and act according to the information given.
Ex: Open word document => UAC "MS Word wants to access your registry" Alllow/deny ? => User has to question itself, why would Word want to access my registry this way... and why after opening a document?

**dinesh** · 12-24-2008

Microsoft is concerned about our security ....... hence made UAC. If UAC really annoys you every now and then, i recommend upgrade your OS to Vista SP1 as it will reduce the UAC prompts for many administrative tasks.

**Neverhavemoney** · 12-24-2008

I am saying that from a standered users stand point KrossX
My mother and father both agree that they have clicked things just because they are used to doing it.
Also, there are people who feel the same way as i do. If you get annoyed by it enough, you wont even look at it, and just click accept. What happens when a Rouge Trojan attacks your computer and has a fake one of these saying that the virus needs to access the registry or something(it would obviously be worded differently)
But do u honestly think that a basic user is really going to take the time to check into what they are accepting?
Im just saying from a personal standpoint!

Quote: Originally Posted by KrossX

Hahahahahaha! "It trains you to click ok, accept" XD

One should always know what it's clicking... maybe there should be some kind of ... training like those for SWAT games (hostile, non-hostile targets) but for propmts (safe, unsafe?).

Although, even with the UAC enabled, it's completely useless if what the user only does is to click Allow, allow, allow. In that case, it's the same as having it disabled.

One has to read, and act according to the information given.
Ex: Open word document => UAC "MS Word wants to access your registry" Alllow/deny ? => User has to question itself, why would Word want to access my registry this way... and why after opening a document?

**KrossX** · 12-24-2008

Yes, I understood completely. But as you see, the problem ain't the UAC, but the user.

A citizen should always look at both sides before deciding to cross the street. One should always read what's about to sign. A user should always check what's about to click.

**Neverhavemoney** · 12-24-2008

But they dont!

**johngalt** · 12-25-2008

Well, thus far, those that use it outnumber those that disable it 3:1. I think my point has been made....

**NormCameron** · 12-25-2008

Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt

Well, thus far, those that use it outnumber those that disable it 3:1. I think my point has been made....

You WERE right, as I knew you would be, The UAC is like a condom, we hate em, but it's sooo much safer with one.

12-23-2008	#21 (permalink)
sassofalco Vista Home Premium 32bit [x86] - SP2 834 posts	Re: UAC - do you love it, hate it or deal with it? Until June last year, I had never owned a PC or Laptop Computer before, or ever used one. Vista Home Premium came installed and since I never knew any better, and had never used any other operating systems, took the UAC as just a part of the necessary 'check-points' to help me take notice of my intentions. I have found it invaluable, as that quick 'pause' made me think twice about the repercussions of my intended actions. It has 'saved' me from stupid actions, a number of times. No problems in leaving UAC just as it is.
My System Specs

12-23-2008	#22 (permalink)
Dzomlija Windows Vista x64 Ultimate 2,217 posts	Re: UAC - do you love it, hate it or deal with it? It took some getting used to, but I've come to rely on UAC as just another layer of defense against stupid mistakes. During setup, it was downright annoying, but with my system running sweet, UAC has become so rare, I think the last UAC prompt I saw was several days ago.
My System Specs

12-23-2008	#23 (permalink)
Neverhavemoney Windows Vista™ Home Premium 407 posts	Re: UAC - do you love it, hate it or deal with it? I hate the UAC. I disabled it right when i learned how to. I think it trains you to hit "ok" "accept" "yes" and other things. If you get a pop-up, since you are so used to clicking yes you will click to open it. I don't think it was a good feature to add in. But then again, it is just my opinion
My System Specs

12-23-2008	#24 (permalink)
KrossX Windows 7 RC x64 (7100) 83 posts	Re: UAC - do you love it, hate it or deal with it? Hahahahahaha! "It trains you to click ok, accept" XD One should always know what it's clicking... maybe there should be some kind of ... training like those for SWAT games (hostile, non-hostile targets) but for propmts (safe, unsafe?). Although, even with the UAC enabled, it's completely useless if what the user only does is to click Allow, allow, allow. In that case, it's the same as having it disabled. One has to read, and act according to the information given. Ex: Open word document => UAC "MS Word wants to access your registry" Alllow/deny ? => User has to question itself, why would Word want to access my registry this way... and why after opening a document?
My System Specs

12-24-2008	#25 (permalink)
dinesh Windows 7 RTM 64-bit 1,267 posts	Re: UAC - do you love it, hate it or deal with it? Microsoft is concerned about our security ....... hence made UAC. If UAC really annoys you every now and then, i recommend upgrade your OS to Vista SP1 as it will reduce the UAC prompts for many administrative tasks.
My System Specs

12-24-2008	#26 (permalink)
Neverhavemoney Windows Vista™ Home Premium 407 posts	Re: UAC - do you love it, hate it or deal with it? I am saying that from a standered users stand point KrossX My mother and father both agree that they have clicked things just because they are used to doing it. Also, there are people who feel the same way as i do. If you get annoyed by it enough, you wont even look at it, and just click accept. What happens when a Rouge Trojan attacks your computer and has a fake one of these saying that the virus needs to access the registry or something(it would obviously be worded differently) But do u honestly think that a basic user is really going to take the time to check into what they are accepting? Im just saying from a personal standpoint! Quote: Originally Posted by KrossX Hahahahahaha! "It trains you to click ok, accept" XD One should always know what it's clicking... maybe there should be some kind of ... training like those for SWAT games (hostile, non-hostile targets) but for propmts (safe, unsafe?). Although, even with the UAC enabled, it's completely useless if what the user only does is to click Allow, allow, allow. In that case, it's the same as having it disabled. One has to read, and act according to the information given. Ex: Open word document => UAC "MS Word wants to access your registry" Alllow/deny ? => User has to question itself, why would Word want to access my registry this way... and why after opening a document?
My System Specs

12-24-2008	#27 (permalink)
KrossX Windows 7 RC x64 (7100) 83 posts	Re: UAC - do you love it, hate it or deal with it? Yes, I understood completely. But as you see, the problem ain't the UAC, but the user. A citizen should always look at both sides before deciding to cross the street. One should always read what's about to sign. A user should always check what's about to click.
My System Specs

12-24-2008	#28 (permalink)
Neverhavemoney Windows Vista™ Home Premium 407 posts	Re: UAC - do you love it, hate it or deal with it? But they dont!
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12-25-2008	#29 (permalink)
johngalt Vista Ultimate x64 MAK, OpenSolaris 5, Gentoo 2008.1.... 3,848 posts	Re: UAC - do you love it, hate it or deal with it? Well, thus far, those that use it outnumber those that disable it 3:1. I think my point has been made....
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12-25-2008	#30 (permalink)
NormCameron Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit Beta, Vista Ultimate x86 1,082 posts	Re: UAC - do you love it, hate it or deal with it? Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt Well, thus far, those that use it outnumber those that disable it 3:1. I think my point has been made.... You WERE right, as I knew you would be, The UAC is like a condom, we hate em, but it's sooo much safer with one.
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