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| | Interesting FSO bug This is an upshot of the discussion last week about getting browser versions. In checking the file version of firefox.exe I wondered why anyone who had accessed a file through FSO would then go to all the trouble of switching to WMI to get the file's version, when FSO has the GetFileVersion method. (One of the solutions offered worked that way, using both FSO and WMI.) Just to double-check, I ran FSO.GetFileVersion on firefox.exe. I have FF 1.5 installed. This was the result: fso 1.8.20070.50813 wmi 1.8.0.12: 2007050813 The Firefox version number is probably not a "legal" version in Windows. I've never seen a colon before in a file version number. The Mozilla people apparently just decided to make up their own standard. On the other hand, file version comes from the VS_VERSION_INFO resource in a PE file. The structure of that is defined. All of VS_VERSION_INFO is in string form. The version number is not stored as numbers. It's stored as a unicode string, periods and all, like: 1-.-8-.-0-.-1-2- etc. (where - is a null) Looking at firefox.exe in a hex editor I was able to cofirm that WMI had the correct version string. So what is FSO returning? It appears that this is some kind of parsing bug in the FSO/scrrun.dll. FSO.GetFileVersion seems to be applying some kind of complex (and uncalled-for) formula to the version string.... a formula that can't handle Mozilla's unorthodox version string formatting. The long and the short of it is that FSO.GetFileVersion cannot be depended upon to return accurate data. |
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| | Re: Interesting FSO bug Just to clarify: Firefox not only has an unusual file version number format. It also switches file version and product version. The file version reported is actually the gecko version, while Firefox's product version is the installed Firefox version number. (That's why I showed file version 1.8 for an installed FF version of 1.5.) So firefox's file version number is not of much use in any case. But that's a side issue. WMI, Windows,and the version info. of the firefox.exe resource table all agree on one file version number, while FSO mangles that number somewhere along the line. |
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| | Re: Interesting FSO bug mayayana wrote: Quote: > This is an upshot of the discussion last week > about getting browser versions. In checking > the file version of firefox.exe I wondered why > anyone who had accessed a file through FSO > would then go to all the trouble of switching to > WMI to get the file's version, when FSO has > the GetFileVersion method. (One of the solutions > offered worked that way, using both FSO and WMI.) > > Just to double-check, I ran FSO.GetFileVersion on > firefox.exe. I have FF 1.5 installed. This was the > result: > > fso 1.8.20070.50813 > wmi 1.8.0.12: 2007050813 > > The Firefox version number is probably not a "legal" > version in Windows. I've never seen a colon before > in a file version number. The Mozilla people apparently > just decided to make up their own standard. > > On the other hand, file version comes from the > VS_VERSION_INFO resource in a PE file. The structure > of that is defined. All of VS_VERSION_INFO is in string > form. The version number is not stored as numbers. It's > stored as a unicode string, periods and all, like: > 1-.-8-.-0-.-1-2- etc. (where - is a null) > > Looking at firefox.exe in a hex editor I was able to > cofirm that WMI had the correct version string. So what > is FSO returning? It appears that this is some kind of > parsing bug in the FSO/scrrun.dll. FSO.GetFileVersion > seems to be applying some kind of complex (and > uncalled-for) formula to the version string.... a formula > that can't handle Mozilla's unorthodox version string > formatting. > > The long and the short of it is that FSO.GetFileVersion > cannot be depended upon to return accurate data. If I click Help/About in my FireFox I see Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.11) Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 When I run my WMI script I get Version: 1.9.0.3439 This would all be so much easier if the Mozilla folks would enable FireFox for VBScript. -- |
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| | Re: Interesting FSO bug David Kerber wrote: Quote: > In article <u5t8bAs$JHA.4336@xxxxxx>, markdmac@xxxxxx > says... Quote: > > > > It is an interesting topic. > > > > If I click Help/About in my FireFox I see > > > > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.11) > > Gecko/2009060215 Firefox/3.0.11 > > > > > > When I run my WMI script I get Version: 1.9.0.3439 > > > > This would all be so much easier if the Mozilla folks would enable > > FireFox for VBScript. > And open it up to the same security issues as IE? I hope not... done with IE like: Set IE = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application") IE.Visible = False IE.Navigate("http://companyweb") IE.Visible = True -- |
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| | Re: Interesting FSO bug Quote: > I am referring to the need to be able to script its use, such as can be > done with IE like: > > Set IE = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application") > IE.Visible = False > IE.Navigate("http://companyweb") > IE.Visible = True > http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/control.htm I don't know if it's any good. I downloaded it once and it basically installed an entire copy of Firefox as part of the control. So it wouldn't work to ship it with software. The FF control is equivalent to a WebBrowser control -- a browser instance that needs to be sited in the window of some other process. I would think that whatever COM interfaces were created for that control might be adapted to create an automation object EXE. I really don't see what advantage that would provide, though. The IE automation object, especially with HTAs, is remarkably functional. I don't see any need to have a FF automation object. Actually I don't even regard them as the same kind of software. I see IE as a scriptable program for creating scripted GUIs on Windows, and Firefox is a web browser for going online. Each seems ill-suited for the job that the other does well. |
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| | Re: Interesting FSO bug mayayana wrote: Quote: > > Quote: > > I am referring to the need to be able to script its use, such as > > can be done with IE like: > > > > Set IE = CreateObject("InternetExplorer.Application") > > IE.Visible = False > > IE.Navigate("http://companyweb") > > IE.Visible = True > > > There is actually an ActiveX control. > http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/control.htm > > I don't know if it's any good. I downloaded it once > and it basically installed an entire copy of Firefox > as part of the control. So it wouldn't work to ship it > with software. > > The FF control is equivalent to a WebBrowser > control -- a browser instance that needs to be sited > in the window of some other process. I would think > that whatever COM interfaces were created for that > control might be adapted to create an automation > object EXE. > > I really don't see what advantage that would > provide, though. The IE automation object, especially > with HTAs, is remarkably functional. I don't see any > need to have a FF automation object. Actually I don't > even regard them as the same kind of software. I see > IE as a scriptable program for creating scripted GUIs > on Windows, and Firefox is a web browser for going > online. Each seems ill-suited for the job that the > other does well. is that there are a lot of problems right now with IE8. I prefer to use IE, however on my WIndows 7 x64 installation I've had to switch my default browser to FF because IE8 is so unpredictable. One minute it works great and the next it can take 2 minutes to navigate to a web page. Using FF at the same moment that IE is delayed opens right up. I trust MS will fix this with SP1 for IE8 but I really can't wait for that. -- |
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