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Old 07-09-2008   #1 (permalink)
Gary Phillips


 
 

Virtual PC Will Not Allow Logon - Task Manager Pops Up

I successfully installed a VMC running Windows Server 2003 with a CRM 4.0
Demo Database vhd file. It started to boot up and got all the way to the end
where the "Press CTL + ALT + DELETE to logon" message appears. However, when
I did this, the Windows Task Manager popped up. I closed every possible
program in Task Manager but still got the Task Manager poping up when I
pressed CTL + ALT+ Delete. The host is Windows XP Pro, SP3 computer. The
computer has a Pentium 4 Processor running at 3.0 MGHZ with 1.8 MB of RAM.
There is 37 MB free hard drive space. How can I get the CTL + ALT + Delete to
give me access to the logon screen?
--
Gary Phillips
MSRP, AAC, PCLCIC, T3CC
Pittsburgh, PA
Phone: 412-766-2280
E-mail: garyp@xxxxxx
URL: www.marketinginformationtechnology.net

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Old 07-09-2008   #2 (permalink)
Anonymous Remailer


 
 

Re: Virtual PC Will Not Allow Logon - Task Manager Pops Up

In article <E9694540-CCD1-4507-962A-A2E2404DF4DE@xxxxxx>
=?Utf-8?B?R2FyeSBQaGlsbGlwcw==?= <GaryPhillips@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>
> I successfully installed a VMC running Windows Server 2003 with a CRM 4.0
> Demo Database vhd file. It started to boot up and got all the way to the end
> where the "Press CTL + ALT + DELETE to logon" message appears. However, when
> I did this, the Windows Task Manager popped up. I closed every possible
> program in Task Manager but still got the Task Manager poping up when I
> pressed CTL + ALT+ Delete. The host is Windows XP Pro, SP3 computer. The
> computer has a Pentium 4 Processor running at 3.0 MGHZ with 1.8 MB of RAM.
> There is 37 MB free hard drive space. How can I get the CTL + ALT + Delete to
> give me access to the logon screen?
Use the right Alt key and Delete key to logon.






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Old 07-09-2008   #3 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: Virtual PC Will Not Allow Logon - Task Manager Pops Up

Use <Right-Alt> - <Del> if you've got U.S. keyboard, or <AltGr>-<Del>
That sends a <Ctrl>-<Alt>-<Del> to the VM. (or just chose the menu
item <Ctrl>-<Alt>-<Del>)

It's in the help -- search for Host key.

--
Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>







On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:58:04 -0700, Gary Phillips
<GaryPhillips@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>I successfully installed a VMC running Windows Server 2003 with a CRM 4.0
>Demo Database vhd file. It started to boot up and got all the way to the end
>where the "Press CTL + ALT + DELETE to logon" message appears. However, when
>I did this, the Windows Task Manager popped up. I closed every possible
>program in Task Manager but still got the Task Manager poping up when I
>pressed CTL + ALT+ Delete. The host is Windows XP Pro, SP3 computer. The
>computer has a Pentium 4 Processor running at 3.0 MGHZ with 1.8 MB of RAM.
>There is 37 MB free hard drive space. How can I get the CTL + ALT + Delete to
>give me access to the logon screen?
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Old 07-10-2008   #4 (permalink)
Gary Phillips


 
 

Re: Virtual PC Will Not Allow Logon - Task Manager Pops Up

The ONLY way that the logon will work is to select the keys from the Actions
menu. Neither the right nor left keyboard CTL ALT Delete keys work (get the
Task Manager popping up). This is the kind of Microsoft logic that drives
people crazy!!!!
--
Gary Phillips
MSRP, AAC, PCLCIC, T3CC
Pittsburgh, PA
Phone: 412-766-2280
E-mail: garyp@xxxxxx
URL: www.execautomation.com


"Robert Comer" wrote:
Quote:

> Use <Right-Alt> - <Del> if you've got U.S. keyboard, or <AltGr>-<Del>
> That sends a <Ctrl>-<Alt>-<Del> to the VM. (or just chose the menu
> item <Ctrl>-<Alt>-<Del>)
>
> It's in the help -- search for Host key.
>
> --
> Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:58:04 -0700, Gary Phillips
> <GaryPhillips@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >I successfully installed a VMC running Windows Server 2003 with a CRM 4.0
> >Demo Database vhd file. It started to boot up and got all the way to the end
> >where the "Press CTL + ALT + DELETE to logon" message appears. However, when
> >I did this, the Windows Task Manager popped up. I closed every possible
> >program in Task Manager but still got the Task Manager poping up when I
> >pressed CTL + ALT+ Delete. The host is Windows XP Pro, SP3 computer. The
> >computer has a Pentium 4 Processor running at 3.0 MGHZ with 1.8 MB of RAM.
> >There is 37 MB free hard drive space. How can I get the CTL + ALT + Delete to
> >give me access to the logon screen?
>
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Old 07-10-2008   #5 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: Virtual PC Will Not Allow Logon - Task Manager Pops Up

No, not <Ctrl> <Alt>, just <Alt>
Quote:

>This is the kind of Microsoft logic that drives
>people crazy!!!!
<Ctrl><Alt><Del> is reserved for the host, so a VM can't use it, so
it's got to be different, and they do it by having a <Host> key +
modifier. The Default <Host> key is <Right Alt>, so to send a
<Ctrl><Alt><Del> to a VM, you need <Host><Del>, or more precisely,
<Right Alt><Del> if you haven't changed the <Host> key default.

--
Bob Comer


On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:11:04 -0700, Gary Phillips
<GaryPhillips@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>The ONLY way that the logon will work is to select the keys from the Actions
>menu. Neither the right nor left keyboard CTL ALT Delete keys work (get the
>Task Manager popping up). This is the kind of Microsoft logic that drives
>people crazy!!!!
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Old 07-10-2008   #6 (permalink)
George Orwell


 
 

Re: Virtual PC Will Not Allow Logon - Task Manager Pops Up

In article <31B538E6-DEC9-42E1-8A3C-417C4A367B66@xxxxxx>
=?Utf-8?B?R2FyeSBQaGlsbGlwcw==?= <GaryPhillips@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>
> The ONLY way that the logon will work is to select the keys from the Actions
> menu. Neither the right nor left keyboard CTL ALT Delete keys work (get the
> Task Manager popping up). This is the kind of Microsoft logic that drives
> people crazy!!!!
Had you paid attention to the replies to your request you'd discover
that using the right Alt + Delete do in fact work. Adding the Ctrl
key to the mix makes it not work.


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Old 07-10-2008   #7 (permalink)
Steve Jain


 
 

Re: Virtual PC Will Not Allow Logon - Task Manager Pops Up

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:11:04 -0700, Gary Phillips
<GaryPhillips@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>The ONLY way that the logon will work is to select the keys from the Actions
>menu. Neither the right nor left keyboard CTL ALT Delete keys work (get the
>Task Manager popping up). This is the kind of Microsoft logic that drives
>people crazy!!!!
So I guess VM Ware and Parallels are using crazy Microsoft logic too
since you can't use ctrl+alt+del in a VM either?

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.
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Old 07-10-2008   #8 (permalink)
Anonymous Sender


 
 

Re: Virtual PC Will Not Allow Logon - Task Manager Pops Up

In article <vffc741e1g0jbh7plkimaeqaurqge4dfeh@xxxxxx>
Steve Jain <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote:
Quote:

>
> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:11:04 -0700, Gary Phillips
> <GaryPhillips@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >The ONLY way that the logon will work is to select the keys from the Actions
> >menu. Neither the right nor left keyboard CTL ALT Delete keys work (get the
> >Task Manager popping up). This is the kind of Microsoft logic that drives
> >people crazy!!!!
>
> So I guess VM Ware and Parallels are using crazy Microsoft logic too
> since you can't use ctrl+alt+del in a VM either?
>
Get over yourself.

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Old 07-10-2008   #9 (permalink)
Gary Phillips


 
 

Password?? (Re: Virtual PC Will Not Allow Logon - Task Manager Pop

What is the Windows 2003 VMC password?

By the way, I am a new Microsoft Partner. I was recruited to be a CRM 4.0
Certified Partner since I have been a Sage Partner for many years with Sales
Logix and ACT! My recruiter is Sean Britt. Becasue I am new to Microsoft
tools, I have no idea what VM Ware and Parallels are. To me, not being able
to use ALT+CTRL+Delete is illogical since it us an industry standard
unlocking command. Also, since I have been using the latter for more than 15
years, it would be easy to miss the post info. Sorry I am so ignorant.
--
Gary Phillips
MSRP, AAC, PCLCIC, T3CC
Pittsburgh, PA
Phone: 412-766-2280
E-mail: garyp@xxxxxx
URL: www.execautomation.com


"Steve Jain" wrote:
Quote:

> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 08:11:04 -0700, Gary Phillips
> <GaryPhillips@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >The ONLY way that the logon will work is to select the keys from the Actions
> >menu. Neither the right nor left keyboard CTL ALT Delete keys work (get the
> >Task Manager popping up). This is the kind of Microsoft logic that drives
> >people crazy!!!!
>
> So I guess VM Ware and Parallels are using crazy Microsoft logic too
> since you can't use ctrl+alt+del in a VM either?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.
>
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Old 07-10-2008   #10 (permalink)
Steve Jain


 
 

Re: Password?? (Re: Virtual PC Will Not Allow Logon - Task Manager Pop

On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 11:14:00 -0700, Gary Phillips
<GaryPhillips@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>What is the Windows 2003 VMC password?
I posted a response in your other post for this.
Quote:

>
>By the way, I am a new Microsoft Partner. I was recruited to be a CRM 4.0
>Certified Partner since I have been a Sage Partner for many years with Sales
>Logix and ACT! My recruiter is Sean Britt. Becasue I am new to Microsoft
>tools, I have no idea what VM Ware and Parallels are. To me, not being able
>to use ALT+CTRL+Delete is illogical since it us an industry standard
>unlocking command. Also, since I have been using the latter for more than 15
>years, it would be easy to miss the post info. Sorry I am so ignorant.
VM Ware and Parallels are competing virtual machine software
companies. CTRL+ALT+DEL doesn't work to log into a VM on their
software either.

It can't. Virtual machines require a different keystroke combination
because how else can the host operating system determine where the
ctrl+alt+del should be applied? Also, a VM capturing ctrl+alt+del
would break a lot of security measures designed into Windows.

"It was chosen as the secure attention key in Windows (instead of, for
example, the System Request key), because on the PC platform no
program could reasonably expect to redefine this keystroke combination
for its own purposes."
http://blogs.msdn.com/larryosterman/...24/359850.aspx

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.
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