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| | How to use the Virtual PC after it is installed This is a very basic question, but somehow I am missing an important instruction or don't understand. Have installed the operating system and read all the help notes, but cannot seem to find how to install the program for which I downloaded the Virtual PC in the first place. Thinking maybe and "addition" is supposed to be a program I looked at that instruction, but no that seems to be something to do with the operating system. I have a program that is written in 16 bit and won't run on Vista 64 bit. So I was told by a Microsoft employee friend to download Virtual PC and use it to run the 64 bit program. Now I have the Virtual PC Console on my desktop, and when I click on Start I get an MSDOS black secreen. I can't do anything on the MSDOS screen and no other button seems to work. If I click on the CD icon and click on "capture ISO etc " it takes me to my documents. Am I supposed to go to My computer, CD, and then load the program ? Maybe it is this simple ? Sorry to be so verbose, but this is quite frustrating. Thanks for your help. |
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| | RE: How to use the Virtual PC after it is installed Steven The general way to act is: 1. Install Virtual PC as a normal application in your Windows environment (you have probably done this) 2. Run Virtual PC and create a virtual machine (and a virtual hard disk); this you have done also, I think. 3. Start the virtual machine and install a Windiows OS on this machine. 4. Install and run the 16 bit program. My guess is that you did not perform steps 3 and 4. HTH, Jos "stevemalee" wrote: Quote: > This is a very basic question, but somehow I am missing an important > instruction or don't understand. > > Have installed the operating system and read all the help notes, but cannot > seem to find how to install the program for which I downloaded the Virtual PC > in the first place. > > Thinking maybe and "addition" is supposed to be a program I looked at that > instruction, but no that seems to be something to do with the operating > system. > > I have a program that is written in 16 bit and won't run on Vista 64 bit. > > So I was told by a Microsoft employee friend to download Virtual PC and use > it to run the 64 bit program. > > Now I have the Virtual PC Console on my desktop, and when I click on Start I > get an MSDOS black secreen. > > I can't do anything on the MSDOS screen and no other button seems to work. > > If I click on the CD icon and click on "capture ISO etc " it takes me to my > documents. > > Am I supposed to go to My computer, CD, and then load the program ? > > Maybe it is this simple ? > > Sorry to be so verbose, but this is quite frustrating. > > Thanks for your help. |
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| | Re: How to use the Virtual PC after it is installed "stevemalee" <stevemalee@xxxxxx> wrote in message news 741568D-1417-48A3-BE67-907F0EA7D5ED@xxxxxxQuote: > This is a very basic question, but somehow I am missing an important > instruction or don't understand. > > Have installed the operating system and read all the help notes, but > cannot > seem to find how to install the program for which I downloaded the Virtual > PC > in the first place. > > Thinking maybe and "addition" is supposed to be a program I looked at that > instruction, but no that seems to be something to do with the operating > system. > > I have a program that is written in 16 bit and won't run on Vista 64 bit. > > So I was told by a Microsoft employee friend to download Virtual PC and > use > it to run the 64 bit program. > > Now I have the Virtual PC Console on my desktop, and when I click on Start > I > get an MSDOS black secreen. > > I can't do anything on the MSDOS screen and no other button seems to work. > > If I click on the CD icon and click on "capture ISO etc " it takes me to > my > documents. > > Am I supposed to go to My computer, CD, and then load the program ? > > Maybe it is this simple ? > > Sorry to be so verbose, but this is quite frustrating. > > Thanks for your help. come with one. What you install depends on what you're trying to do. "Capture an ISO" is for using a image file of a CD, made with the appropriate program, instead of an actual CD. The virtual machine will see it as a CD and use it accordingly. The file would have a name that ends in "ISO". It is all explained in the "Help" menu in the Virtual PC Console, which is way more helpful than the installation notes. Click on the Help menu item, choose "Virtual PC Help". Click on the plus signs to open down to Virtual PC->How To Help for Virtual PC->Set Up Virtual Machines->Install Operating System. You will need a CD with the operating system you want to install, and it really should be a legal copy, but that's up to you. All of the legalities that apply to physical PCs apply to Virtual PCs as well. Once you have the operating system installed, you can install whatever program you want to run on it. It's easiest to install from a CD, but it can be done from the hard drive. It's a little trickier because the virtual machine doesn't have access to the host machine's hard drive without creating a shared folder, the process for which is explained in the help as well, under "Virtual Machine Additions". With all due respect, your Microsoft employee friend really should have explained all of this instead of just saying, "here use this". John |
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| | Re: How to use the Virtual PC after it is installed "stevemalee" <stevemalee@xxxxxx> wrote in message news 741568D-1417-48A3-BE67-907F0EA7D5ED@xxxxxxQuote: > Now I have the Virtual PC Console on my desktop, and when I click on Start > I > get an MSDOS black secreen. > > I can't do anything on the MSDOS screen and no other button seems to work. machines. A virtual machine is, as it's name suggests, a computer made from software which behaves exactly like a physical computer. Just like a physical computer, a virtual machine's hard disk is completely blank when it's first created. So, when you first create a virtual machine and start it up, it tells you that it needs an operating system to boot from, just like a physical computer. FWIW, the screen you're looking at isn't MSDOS - it's the virtual machine's BIOS... Quote: > Am I supposed to go to My computer, CD, and then load the program ? to install on the new virtual machine... Then reboot the virtual machine to start the installation process. -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net |
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| | RE: How to use the Virtual PC after it is installed Thanks, I stupidly thought that the XP would be automatic install when I checked the box that said what OS do you want. Now, do have old XP CD, but since is not in original sleeve, and I cannot find where I put the information, again very stupid. So, have to find out how to solve this problem. And, when "help" tells you to "reboot" -- does that mean close down the Virtual PC and then open again ? "JosR" wrote: Quote: > Steven > > The general way to act is: > 1. Install Virtual PC as a normal application in your Windows environment > (you have probably done this) > 2. Run Virtual PC and create a virtual machine (and a virtual hard disk); > this you have done also, I think. > 3. Start the virtual machine and install a Windiows OS on this machine. > 4. Install and run the 16 bit program. > > My guess is that you did not perform steps 3 and 4. > > HTH, > Jos > > "stevemalee" wrote: > Quote: > > This is a very basic question, but somehow I am missing an important > > instruction or don't understand. > > > > Have installed the operating system and read all the help notes, but cannot > > seem to find how to install the program for which I downloaded the Virtual PC > > in the first place. > > > > Thinking maybe and "addition" is supposed to be a program I looked at that > > instruction, but no that seems to be something to do with the operating > > system. > > > > I have a program that is written in 16 bit and won't run on Vista 64 bit. > > > > So I was told by a Microsoft employee friend to download Virtual PC and use > > it to run the 64 bit program. > > > > Now I have the Virtual PC Console on my desktop, and when I click on Start I > > get an MSDOS black secreen. > > > > I can't do anything on the MSDOS screen and no other button seems to work. > > > > If I click on the CD icon and click on "capture ISO etc " it takes me to my > > documents. > > > > Am I supposed to go to My computer, CD, and then load the program ? > > > > Maybe it is this simple ? > > > > Sorry to be so verbose, but this is quite frustrating. > > > > Thanks for your help. |
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| | Re: How to use the Virtual PC after it is installed Thanks for your detailed instructions for the Virtual PC Help. My MS friend did say he would help me. I was just trying to save him the time. Obviously, I cannot do this on my own. "John D. Sheridan" wrote: Quote: > > "stevemalee" <stevemalee@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news 741568D-1417-48A3-BE67-907F0EA7D5ED@xxxxxxQuote: > > This is a very basic question, but somehow I am missing an important > > instruction or don't understand. > > > > Have installed the operating system and read all the help notes, but > > cannot > > seem to find how to install the program for which I downloaded the Virtual > > PC > > in the first place. > > > > Thinking maybe and "addition" is supposed to be a program I looked at that > > instruction, but no that seems to be something to do with the operating > > system. > > > > I have a program that is written in 16 bit and won't run on Vista 64 bit. > > > > So I was told by a Microsoft employee friend to download Virtual PC and > > use > > it to run the 64 bit program. > > > > Now I have the Virtual PC Console on my desktop, and when I click on Start > > I > > get an MSDOS black secreen. > > > > I can't do anything on the MSDOS screen and no other button seems to work. > > > > If I click on the CD icon and click on "capture ISO etc " it takes me to > > my > > documents. > > > > Am I supposed to go to My computer, CD, and then load the program ? > > > > Maybe it is this simple ? > > > > Sorry to be so verbose, but this is quite frustrating. > > > > Thanks for your help. > You have to install an operating system on the virtual machine, it doesn't > come with one. What you install depends on what you're trying to do. > > "Capture an ISO" is for using a image file of a CD, made with the > appropriate program, instead of an actual CD. The virtual machine will see > it as a CD and use it accordingly. The file would have a name that ends in > "ISO". > > It is all explained in the "Help" menu in the Virtual PC Console, which is > way more helpful than the installation notes. Click on the Help menu item, > choose "Virtual PC Help". Click on the plus signs to open down to Virtual > PC->How To Help for Virtual PC->Set Up Virtual Machines->Install Operating > System. You will need a CD with the operating system you want to install, > and it really should be a legal copy, but that's up to you. All of the > legalities that apply to physical PCs apply to Virtual PCs as well. > > Once you have the operating system installed, you can install whatever > program you want to run on it. It's easiest to install from a CD, but it > can be done from the hard drive. It's a little trickier because the virtual > machine doesn't have access to the host machine's hard drive without > creating a shared folder, the process for which is explained in the help as > well, under "Virtual Machine Additions". > > With all due respect, your Microsoft employee friend really should have > explained all of this instead of just saying, "here use this". > > John > > > |
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| | Re: How to use the Virtual PC after it is installed "stevemalee" <stevemalee@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5FAD29F7-2B4A-48E9-95A2-8FEE45F42828@xxxxxx Quote: > Thanks, I stupidly thought that the XP would be automatic install when I > checked the box that said what OS do you want. > > Now, do have old XP CD, but since is not in original sleeve, and I cannot > find where I put the information, again very stupid. > > So, have to find out how to solve this problem. > > And, when "help" tells you to "reboot" -- does that mean close down the > Virtual PC and then open again ? > > "JosR" wrote: > Quote: >> Steven >> >> The general way to act is: >> 1. Install Virtual PC as a normal application in your Windows environment >> (you have probably done this) >> 2. Run Virtual PC and create a virtual machine (and a virtual hard disk); >> this you have done also, I think. >> 3. Start the virtual machine and install a Windiows OS on this machine. >> 4. Install and run the 16 bit program. >> >> My guess is that you did not perform steps 3 and 4. >> >> HTH, >> Jos >> >> "stevemalee" wrote: >> Quote: >> > This is a very basic question, but somehow I am missing an important >> > instruction or don't understand. >> > >> > Have installed the operating system and read all the help notes, but >> > cannot >> > seem to find how to install the program for which I downloaded the >> > Virtual PC >> > in the first place. >> > >> > Thinking maybe and "addition" is supposed to be a program I looked at >> > that >> > instruction, but no that seems to be something to do with the operating >> > system. >> > >> > I have a program that is written in 16 bit and won't run on Vista 64 >> > bit. >> > >> > So I was told by a Microsoft employee friend to download Virtual PC and >> > use >> > it to run the 64 bit program. >> > >> > Now I have the Virtual PC Console on my desktop, and when I click on >> > Start I >> > get an MSDOS black secreen. >> > >> > I can't do anything on the MSDOS screen and no other button seems to >> > work. >> > >> > If I click on the CD icon and click on "capture ISO etc " it takes me >> > to my >> > documents. >> > >> > Am I supposed to go to My computer, CD, and then load the program ? >> > >> > Maybe it is this simple ? >> > >> > Sorry to be so verbose, but this is quite frustrating. >> > >> > Thanks for your help. It means use the Action menu on the virtual machine window and choose Reset (or sometimes Ctrl-Alt-Del). There is also an Action menu on the VPC console, but don't use that one. |
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| | Re: How to use the Virtual PC after it is installed "stevemalee" <stevemalee@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:778A5B68-724E-42DE-BA8E-3587D3678170@xxxxxx Quote: > Thanks for your detailed instructions for the Virtual PC Help. > > My MS friend did say he would help me. I was just trying to save him the > time. > Obviously, I cannot do this on my own. > > > "John D. Sheridan" wrote: > Quote: >> >> "stevemalee" <stevemalee@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news 741568D-1417-48A3-BE67-907F0EA7D5ED@xxxxxxQuote: >> > This is a very basic question, but somehow I am missing an important >> > instruction or don't understand. >> > >> > Have installed the operating system and read all the help notes, but >> > cannot >> > seem to find how to install the program for which I downloaded the >> > Virtual >> > PC >> > in the first place. >> > >> > Thinking maybe and "addition" is supposed to be a program I looked at >> > that >> > instruction, but no that seems to be something to do with the operating >> > system. >> > >> > I have a program that is written in 16 bit and won't run on Vista 64 >> > bit. >> > >> > So I was told by a Microsoft employee friend to download Virtual PC and >> > use >> > it to run the 64 bit program. >> > >> > Now I have the Virtual PC Console on my desktop, and when I click on >> > Start >> > I >> > get an MSDOS black secreen. >> > >> > I can't do anything on the MSDOS screen and no other button seems to >> > work. >> > >> > If I click on the CD icon and click on "capture ISO etc " it takes me >> > to >> > my >> > documents. >> > >> > Am I supposed to go to My computer, CD, and then load the program ? >> > >> > Maybe it is this simple ? >> > >> > Sorry to be so verbose, but this is quite frustrating. >> > >> > Thanks for your help. >> You have to install an operating system on the virtual machine, it >> doesn't >> come with one. What you install depends on what you're trying to do. >> >> "Capture an ISO" is for using a image file of a CD, made with the >> appropriate program, instead of an actual CD. The virtual machine will >> see >> it as a CD and use it accordingly. The file would have a name that ends >> in >> "ISO". >> >> It is all explained in the "Help" menu in the Virtual PC Console, which >> is >> way more helpful than the installation notes. Click on the Help menu >> item, >> choose "Virtual PC Help". Click on the plus signs to open down to >> Virtual >> PC->How To Help for Virtual PC->Set Up Virtual Machines->Install >> Operating >> System. You will need a CD with the operating system you want to >> install, >> and it really should be a legal copy, but that's up to you. All of the >> legalities that apply to physical PCs apply to Virtual PCs as well. >> >> Once you have the operating system installed, you can install whatever >> program you want to run on it. It's easiest to install from a CD, but it >> can be done from the hard drive. It's a little trickier because the >> virtual >> machine doesn't have access to the host machine's hard drive without >> creating a shared folder, the process for which is explained in the help >> as >> well, under "Virtual Machine Additions". >> >> With all due respect, your Microsoft employee friend really should have >> explained all of this instead of just saying, "here use this". >> >> John >> >> >> special program in Windows you should get the hang of it OK. |
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| | Re: How to use the Virtual PC after it is installed On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:10:01 -0700, in microsoft.public.virtualpc, stevemalee <stevemalee@xxxxxx>, wrote Quote: >Thanks for your detailed instructions for the Virtual PC Help. > >My MS friend did say he would help me. I was just trying to save him the >time. >Obviously, I cannot do this on my own. it. It really is straightforward. Quite understandable that you thought that the MS Virtual PC 2007 (VPC) would "create" an OS when it asked you which OS you wanted. Think of that in the way it is meant -- for which OS should VPC create parameters to receive. You say that you did not have the original CD sleeve for XP, and I will guess that means that you don't have the registration code that came with it. Consider that the registration code belongs to the OS and not that particular CD. You will find numerous XP keys on the net. FACE Quote: > > >"John D. Sheridan" wrote: > Quote: >> >> "stevemalee" <stevemalee@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news 741568D-1417-48A3-BE67-907F0EA7D5ED@xxxxxxQuote: >> > This is a very basic question, but somehow I am missing an important >> > instruction or don't understand. >> > >> > Have installed the operating system and read all the help notes, but >> > cannot >> > seem to find how to install the program for which I downloaded the Virtual >> > PC >> > in the first place. >> > >> > Thinking maybe and "addition" is supposed to be a program I looked at that >> > instruction, but no that seems to be something to do with the operating >> > system. >> > >> > I have a program that is written in 16 bit and won't run on Vista 64 bit. >> > >> > So I was told by a Microsoft employee friend to download Virtual PC and >> > use >> > it to run the 64 bit program. >> > >> > Now I have the Virtual PC Console on my desktop, and when I click on Start >> > I >> > get an MSDOS black secreen. >> > >> > I can't do anything on the MSDOS screen and no other button seems to work. >> > >> > If I click on the CD icon and click on "capture ISO etc " it takes me to >> > my >> > documents. >> > >> > Am I supposed to go to My computer, CD, and then load the program ? >> > >> > Maybe it is this simple ? >> > >> > Sorry to be so verbose, but this is quite frustrating. >> > >> > Thanks for your help. >> You have to install an operating system on the virtual machine, it doesn't >> come with one. What you install depends on what you're trying to do. >> >> "Capture an ISO" is for using a image file of a CD, made with the >> appropriate program, instead of an actual CD. The virtual machine will see >> it as a CD and use it accordingly. The file would have a name that ends in >> "ISO". >> >> It is all explained in the "Help" menu in the Virtual PC Console, which is >> way more helpful than the installation notes. Click on the Help menu item, >> choose "Virtual PC Help". Click on the plus signs to open down to Virtual >> PC->How To Help for Virtual PC->Set Up Virtual Machines->Install Operating >> System. You will need a CD with the operating system you want to install, >> and it really should be a legal copy, but that's up to you. All of the >> legalities that apply to physical PCs apply to Virtual PCs as well. >> >> Once you have the operating system installed, you can install whatever >> program you want to run on it. It's easiest to install from a CD, but it >> can be done from the hard drive. It's a little trickier because the virtual >> machine doesn't have access to the host machine's hard drive without >> creating a shared folder, the process for which is explained in the help as >> well, under "Virtual Machine Additions". >> >> With all due respect, your Microsoft employee friend really should have >> explained all of this instead of just saying, "here use this". >> >> John >> >> >> |
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| | Re: How to use the Virtual PC after it is installed Thanks, Face, for your explanations. I did find a product ID on the bottom of my XP laptop, but it was XP Pro, and the CD Retail Home Version was for an earlier XP for an earlier computer I no longer have. Anyway, the Virtual PC said the product ID was not valid I did look on the MS XP help page re: what to do when you lose the product ID and did not find to what you are referring: "You will find numerous XP keys on the net." Will you point me in the correct direction to find the product ID numbers? Thanks so much. "FACE" wrote: Quote: > On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:10:01 -0700, in microsoft.public.virtualpc, > stevemalee <stevemalee@xxxxxx>, wrote > Quote: > >Thanks for your detailed instructions for the Virtual PC Help. > > > >My MS friend did say he would help me. I was just trying to save him the > >time. > >Obviously, I cannot do this on my own. > I would differ with you here -- obviously you can do this. Lose fear of > it. It really is straightforward. > > Quite understandable that you thought that the MS Virtual PC 2007 (VPC) > would "create" an OS when it asked you which OS you wanted. Think of that > in the way it is meant -- for which OS should VPC create parameters to > receive. > > You say that you did not have the original CD sleeve for XP, and I will > guess that means that you don't have the registration code that came with > it. Consider that the registration code belongs to the OS and not that > particular CD. You will find numerous XP keys on the net. > > FACE > Quote: > > > > > >"John D. Sheridan" wrote: > > Quote: > >> > >> "stevemalee" <stevemalee@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >> news 741568D-1417-48A3-BE67-907F0EA7D5ED@xxxxxx> >> > This is a very basic question, but somehow I am missing an important > >> > instruction or don't understand. > >> > > >> > Have installed the operating system and read all the help notes, but > >> > cannot > >> > seem to find how to install the program for which I downloaded the Virtual > >> > PC > >> > in the first place. > >> > > >> > Thinking maybe and "addition" is supposed to be a program I looked at that > >> > instruction, but no that seems to be something to do with the operating > >> > system. > >> > > >> > I have a program that is written in 16 bit and won't run on Vista 64 bit. > >> > > >> > So I was told by a Microsoft employee friend to download Virtual PC and > >> > use > >> > it to run the 64 bit program. > >> > > >> > Now I have the Virtual PC Console on my desktop, and when I click on Start > >> > I > >> > get an MSDOS black secreen. > >> > > >> > I can't do anything on the MSDOS screen and no other button seems to work. > >> > > >> > If I click on the CD icon and click on "capture ISO etc " it takes me to > >> > my > >> > documents. > >> > > >> > Am I supposed to go to My computer, CD, and then load the program ? > >> > > >> > Maybe it is this simple ? > >> > > >> > Sorry to be so verbose, but this is quite frustrating. > >> > > >> > Thanks for your help. > >> > >> You have to install an operating system on the virtual machine, it doesn't > >> come with one. What you install depends on what you're trying to do. > >> > >> "Capture an ISO" is for using a image file of a CD, made with the > >> appropriate program, instead of an actual CD. The virtual machine will see > >> it as a CD and use it accordingly. The file would have a name that ends in > >> "ISO". > >> > >> It is all explained in the "Help" menu in the Virtual PC Console, which is > >> way more helpful than the installation notes. Click on the Help menu item, > >> choose "Virtual PC Help". Click on the plus signs to open down to Virtual > >> PC->How To Help for Virtual PC->Set Up Virtual Machines->Install Operating > >> System. You will need a CD with the operating system you want to install, > >> and it really should be a legal copy, but that's up to you. All of the > >> legalities that apply to physical PCs apply to Virtual PCs as well. > >> > >> Once you have the operating system installed, you can install whatever > >> program you want to run on it. It's easiest to install from a CD, but it > >> can be done from the hard drive. It's a little trickier because the virtual > >> machine doesn't have access to the host machine's hard drive without > >> creating a shared folder, the process for which is explained in the help as > >> well, under "Virtual Machine Additions". > >> > >> With all due respect, your Microsoft employee friend really should have > >> explained all of this instead of just saying, "here use this". > >> > >> John > >> > >> > >> > |
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