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Old 07-22-2008   #1 (permalink)
Bill


 
 

XP SP3 updated 3 virtual machines

I had 3 virtual machines, XP SP2, XP SP2 with Dot Net and a copy of XP SP2
with Dot Net called XP SP3 with Dot Net. I started XP SP3 with Dot Net and
applied XP SP3. All 3 machines now have XP SP3. I'm a developer and need the
various versions for trouble shooting. Why did this happen?
Bill

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-22-2008   #2 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: XP SP3 updated 3 virtual machines

It's really hard to tell given just that information. How are the
disks set up for each VM, are you using differencing disks and is the
parent read only, or does one of the VM's use the parent directly? (it
shouldn't!!)

Could Windows update have updated the other VM's?

--
Bob Comer


On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:43:02 -0700, Bill
<Bill@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>I had 3 virtual machines, XP SP2, XP SP2 with Dot Net and a copy of XP SP2
>with Dot Net called XP SP3 with Dot Net. I started XP SP3 with Dot Net and
>applied XP SP3. All 3 machines now have XP SP3. I'm a developer and need the
>various versions for trouble shooting. Why did this happen?
>Bill
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-22-2008   #3 (permalink)
Daniel Petri \(MVP\)


 
 

Re: XP SP3 updated 3 virtual machines

You say that installing one VM with SP3 has mysteriously updated the other 2
VMs to SP3? I cannot imagine how such a thing is possible... Each VM is a
stand alone machine.

--
Sincerely,

Daniel Petri
MVP, Senior IT consultant, trainer
www.petri.co.il
-----------------------------------

"Bill" <Bill@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:3171703A-52D2-4C85-AE55-4250D4CB886B@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I had 3 virtual machines, XP SP2, XP SP2 with Dot Net and a copy of XP SP2
> with Dot Net called XP SP3 with Dot Net. I started XP SP3 with Dot Net and
> applied XP SP3. All 3 machines now have XP SP3. I'm a developer and need
> the
> various versions for trouble shooting. Why did this happen?
> Bill
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-22-2008   #4 (permalink)
Bill


 
 

Re: XP SP3 updated 3 virtual machines

What I did originally was to configure a VM with Windows XP Pro SP2. Then I
copied that folder and renamed it to XP Pro SP2 with Dot Net and added a new
existing VM and installed Dot Net 2.0. I did this for the 3rd machine only
named SP3 and installed SP3. The 3rd machine lost Dot Net 2.0 and all 3
machines became SP3.
I'm hoping that it hasn't hit my host machine.
Bill

"Robert Comer" wrote:
Quote:

> It's really hard to tell given just that information. How are the
> disks set up for each VM, are you using differencing disks and is the
> parent read only, or does one of the VM's use the parent directly? (it
> shouldn't!!)
>
> Could Windows update have updated the other VM's?
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:43:02 -0700, Bill
> <Bill@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >I had 3 virtual machines, XP SP2, XP SP2 with Dot Net and a copy of XP SP2
> >with Dot Net called XP SP3 with Dot Net. I started XP SP3 with Dot Net and
> >applied XP SP3. All 3 machines now have XP SP3. I'm a developer and need the
> >various versions for trouble shooting. Why did this happen?
> >Bill
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-22-2008   #5 (permalink)
Colin Barnhorst


 
 

Re: XP SP3 updated 3 virtual machines

"Bill" <Bill@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:3171703A-52D2-4C85-AE55-4250D4CB886B@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I had 3 virtual machines, XP SP2, XP SP2 with Dot Net and a copy of XP SP2
> with Dot Net called XP SP3 with Dot Net. I started XP SP3 with Dot Net and
> applied XP SP3. All 3 machines now have XP SP3. I'm a developer and need
> the
> various versions for trouble shooting. Why did this happen?
> Bill

However it may have happened, you can uninstall SP3 from whichever vms you
need to. If any of the vms were running in the background then they might
have been automatically updated by WU if the settings for WU permit that,
but upgrading to SP3 is a fairly noticeable process. Be sure to reinstall
the virtual machine additions in the vms you leave upgraded to SP3 if you
are using VPC SP1.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-22-2008   #6 (permalink)
Bill


 
 

Re: XP SP3 updated 3 virtual machines

OK, here is what I did today. I ran XP SP2 and did a system restore to a
previous date and it removed SP3 from that PC AND ALL THE OTHER ONES!
Here is the structure of my VM folder:
Folder PATH listing
Volume serial number is 00630061 6CB0:E9A5
C:.
|
+---Windows2000
| Windows2000 Hard Disk.vhd
| Windows2000.vmc
|
+---XP Pro SP2
| EmptyHard Disk.vhd
| XP Pro SP2 Hard Disk.vhd
| XP Pro SP2.vmc
|
+---XP Pro SP2 with Dot Net
| EmptyHard Disk.vhd
| XP Pro SP2 wit Dot Net.vmc
| XP Pro SP2 with Dot Net Hard Disk.vhd
|
\---XP Pro SP3 with Dot Net
EmptyHard Disk.vhd
XP Pro SP3 wit Dot Net.vmc
XP Pro SP3 with Dot Net Hard Disk.vhd



"Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
Quote:

> "Bill" <Bill@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:3171703A-52D2-4C85-AE55-4250D4CB886B@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >I had 3 virtual machines, XP SP2, XP SP2 with Dot Net and a copy of XP SP2
> > with Dot Net called XP SP3 with Dot Net. I started XP SP3 with Dot Net and
> > applied XP SP3. All 3 machines now have XP SP3. I'm a developer and need
> > the
> > various versions for trouble shooting. Why did this happen?
> > Bill
>
>
> However it may have happened, you can uninstall SP3 from whichever vms you
> need to. If any of the vms were running in the background then they might
> have been automatically updated by WU if the settings for WU permit that,
> but upgrading to SP3 is a fairly noticeable process. Be sure to reinstall
> the virtual machine additions in the vms you leave upgraded to SP3 if you
> are using VPC SP1.
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-22-2008   #7 (permalink)
Bill


 
 

Re: XP SP3 updated 3 virtual machines

I think I found the problem. You can copy the folders and rename them and add
them to the VPC Console. But then you have to go in and change the hard disk
settings and create a different drive. I didn't do this.

"Bill" wrote:
Quote:

> OK, here is what I did today. I ran XP SP2 and did a system restore to a
> previous date and it removed SP3 from that PC AND ALL THE OTHER ONES!
> Here is the structure of my VM folder:
> Folder PATH listing
> Volume serial number is 00630061 6CB0:E9A5
> C:.
> |
> +---Windows2000
> | Windows2000 Hard Disk.vhd
> | Windows2000.vmc
> |
> +---XP Pro SP2
> | EmptyHard Disk.vhd
> | XP Pro SP2 Hard Disk.vhd
> | XP Pro SP2.vmc
> |
> +---XP Pro SP2 with Dot Net
> | EmptyHard Disk.vhd
> | XP Pro SP2 wit Dot Net.vmc
> | XP Pro SP2 with Dot Net Hard Disk.vhd
> |
> \---XP Pro SP3 with Dot Net
> EmptyHard Disk.vhd
> XP Pro SP3 wit Dot Net.vmc
> XP Pro SP3 with Dot Net Hard Disk.vhd
>
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > "Bill" <Bill@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:3171703A-52D2-4C85-AE55-4250D4CB886B@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > >I had 3 virtual machines, XP SP2, XP SP2 with Dot Net and a copy of XP SP2
> > > with Dot Net called XP SP3 with Dot Net. I started XP SP3 with Dot Net and
> > > applied XP SP3. All 3 machines now have XP SP3. I'm a developer and need
> > > the
> > > various versions for trouble shooting. Why did this happen?
> > > Bill
> >
> >
> > However it may have happened, you can uninstall SP3 from whichever vms you
> > need to. If any of the vms were running in the background then they might
> > have been automatically updated by WU if the settings for WU permit that,
> > but upgrading to SP3 is a fairly noticeable process. Be sure to reinstall
> > the virtual machine additions in the vms you leave upgraded to SP3 if you
> > are using VPC SP1.
> >
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-22-2008   #8 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: XP SP3 updated 3 virtual machines

It really sounds like you're using the same VHD for all the VMs, check
the name and path in the configuration of each VM to make sure it's
using the vhd's you think it is.

As for your host, make sure Windows update is set to not run if you
want to make sure SP3 doesn't get installed.

--
Bob Comer



On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:06:05 -0700, Bill
<Bill@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>What I did originally was to configure a VM with Windows XP Pro SP2. Then I
>copied that folder and renamed it to XP Pro SP2 with Dot Net and added a new
>existing VM and installed Dot Net 2.0. I did this for the 3rd machine only
>named SP3 and installed SP3. The 3rd machine lost Dot Net 2.0 and all 3
>machines became SP3.
>I'm hoping that it hasn't hit my host machine.
>Bill
>
>"Robert Comer" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> It's really hard to tell given just that information. How are the
>> disks set up for each VM, are you using differencing disks and is the
>> parent read only, or does one of the VM's use the parent directly? (it
>> shouldn't!!)
>>
>> Could Windows update have updated the other VM's?
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:43:02 -0700, Bill
>> <Bill@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>
Quote:

>> >I had 3 virtual machines, XP SP2, XP SP2 with Dot Net and a copy of XP SP2
>> >with Dot Net called XP SP3 with Dot Net. I started XP SP3 with Dot Net and
>> >applied XP SP3. All 3 machines now have XP SP3. I'm a developer and need the
>> >various versions for trouble shooting. Why did this happen?
>> >Bill
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-22-2008   #9 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: XP SP3 updated 3 virtual machines

Cool, glad you found it.

--
Bob Comer

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:12:03 -0700, Bill
<Bill@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>I think I found the problem. You can copy the folders and rename them and add
>them to the VPC Console. But then you have to go in and change the hard disk
>settings and create a different drive. I didn't do this.
>
>"Bill" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> OK, here is what I did today. I ran XP SP2 and did a system restore to a
>> previous date and it removed SP3 from that PC AND ALL THE OTHER ONES!
>> Here is the structure of my VM folder:
>> Folder PATH listing
>> Volume serial number is 00630061 6CB0:E9A5
>> C:.
>> |
>> +---Windows2000
>> | Windows2000 Hard Disk.vhd
>> | Windows2000.vmc
>> |
>> +---XP Pro SP2
>> | EmptyHard Disk.vhd
>> | XP Pro SP2 Hard Disk.vhd
>> | XP Pro SP2.vmc
>> |
>> +---XP Pro SP2 with Dot Net
>> | EmptyHard Disk.vhd
>> | XP Pro SP2 wit Dot Net.vmc
>> | XP Pro SP2 with Dot Net Hard Disk.vhd
>> |
>> \---XP Pro SP3 with Dot Net
>> EmptyHard Disk.vhd
>> XP Pro SP3 wit Dot Net.vmc
>> XP Pro SP3 with Dot Net Hard Disk.vhd
>>
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" wrote:
>>
Quote:

>> > "Bill" <Bill@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:3171703A-52D2-4C85-AE55-4250D4CB886B@xxxxxx
>> > >I had 3 virtual machines, XP SP2, XP SP2 with Dot Net and a copy of XP SP2
>> > > with Dot Net called XP SP3 with Dot Net. I started XP SP3 with Dot Net and
>> > > applied XP SP3. All 3 machines now have XP SP3. I'm a developer and need
>> > > the
>> > > various versions for trouble shooting. Why did this happen?
>> > > Bill
>> >
>> >
>> > However it may have happened, you can uninstall SP3 from whichever vms you
>> > need to. If any of the vms were running in the background then they might
>> > have been automatically updated by WU if the settings for WU permit that,
>> > but upgrading to SP3 is a fairly noticeable process. Be sure to reinstall
>> > the virtual machine additions in the vms you leave upgraded to SP3 if you
>> > are using VPC SP1.
>> >
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-22-2008   #10 (permalink)
David Wilkinson


 
 

Re: XP SP3 updated 3 virtual machines

Bill wrote:
Quote:

> I think I found the problem. You can copy the folders and rename them and add
> them to the VPC Console. But then you have to go in and change the hard disk
> settings and create a different drive. I didn't do this.
Bill:

I think the .vmc has both absolute paths and relative paths for the associated
..vhd's. If it cannot find them using the absolute path, then it uses the
relative path. In your case, it found the vhd's using the absolute path, which
is not what you wanted.

It would be better, IMHO, if it warned you when the absolute and relative paths
were inconsistent.

--
David Wilkinson
Visual C++ MVP
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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