Vista - P2V XP before Vista?

07-29-2008

Hello,

I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of tuning
invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it clean,
install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual PC?? I
would love to be able to do that in order to migrate all of my settings,
software, apps, etc, etc...

That would allow me to continue to use my XP machine until I get things
reinstalled under VISTA and become more familiar with it.

Anyone ever do that before?

Thanks,
Troy

07-29-2008

I did it recently for a friend who was moving to Vista. We simply did a
full backup before reformatting the hard disk. She only wanted to save her
data, not a running XP system.

You should be able to do what yo wnt with Acronis True Image and
Universal Restore. (ie backup XP, reformat and install Vista, install VPC,
create a vm and restore the XP installation into it). Note that not
everything will work under VPC as it did on the host. You can't access USB
devices on the host, the CD/DVD is read only and the video card is pretty
basic. Any programs which rely on specific hardware in the host will fail.

Windows Easy Transfer in Vista does a pretty good job but you have to run
the first bit before you trash your XP install, so you really need two
physical machines.

"Troy Bruder" <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OosTL3c8IHA.3768@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Hello,
>
> I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of
> tuning invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it
> clean, install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual
> PC?? I would love to be able to do that in order to migrate all of my
> settings, software, apps, etc, etc...
>
> That would allow me to continue to use my XP machine until I get things
> reinstalled under VISTA and become more familiar with it.
>
> Anyone ever do that before?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Troy
>
>

07-30-2008

I've run Windows Easy Transfer to a USB hard disk - it worked well, and I
was able to restore my settings after. It's not perfect, but I figure it
saved me at least a full day of tweaking.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Bill Grant" <not.available@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O5fYqIe8IHA.3848@xxxxxx

Quote:

> I did it recently for a friend who was moving to Vista. We simply did a
> full backup before reformatting the hard disk. She only wanted to save her
> data, not a running XP system.
>
> You should be able to do what yo wnt with Acronis True Image and
> Universal Restore. (ie backup XP, reformat and install Vista, install VPC,
> create a vm and restore the XP installation into it). Note that not
> everything will work under VPC as it did on the host. You can't access USB
> devices on the host, the CD/DVD is read only and the video card is pretty
> basic. Any programs which rely on specific hardware in the host will fail.
>
> Windows Easy Transfer in Vista does a pretty good job but you have to
> run the first bit before you trash your XP install, so you really need two
> physical machines.
>
> "Troy Bruder" <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OosTL3c8IHA.3768@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> Hello,
>>
>> I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of
>> tuning invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it
>> clean, install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual
>> PC?? I would love to be able to do that in order to migrate all of my
>> settings, software, apps, etc, etc...
>>
>> That would allow me to continue to use my XP machine until I get things
>> reinstalled under VISTA and become more familiar with it.
>>
>> Anyone ever do that before?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Troy
>>
>>

07-30-2008

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:52:33 -0400, "Troy Bruder"
<troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>Hello,
>
>I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of tuning
>invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it clean,
>install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual PC?? I
>would love to be able to do that in order to migrate all of my settings,
>software, apps, etc, etc...
>
>That would allow me to continue to use my XP machine until I get things
>reinstalled under VISTA and become more familiar with it.
>

If you have an XP machine in which you have invested "years" of tuning
then it is highly likely that your PC hardware is "years" old as
well....
This is *not* good news when you go and install Vista, because Vista
is really only working well on newer types of hardware with resources
like LOTS of RAM, fast CPU and video graphics card etc. You will
probably be better off keeping the old XP system and buying a new PC
with Vista.

Ultimately you might try to do P2V of your existing XP system so you
can dump the old hardware by running it as you suggest as a virtual
machine under Vista. But that would not be Vista upgrade, it would be
Vista on a new PC.

--
Bo Berglund

07-30-2008

Actually, my PC is a dual core 3ghz processor with 4 gb of RAM.... a 300GB
SCSI drive and a 120GB IDE (which i'm going to replace with 4 SATA 3 drives
in a RAID 5 array)...

Hardware is not a concern!

troy

"Bo Berglund" <bo.berglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:7t4094dqrdgd2qos20k9kp0lali34pnnvi@xxxxxx

Quote:

> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:52:33 -0400, "Troy Bruder"
> <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

Quote:

>>Hello,
>>
>>I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of
>>tuning
>>invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it clean,
>>install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual PC?? I
>>would love to be able to do that in order to migrate all of my settings,
>>software, apps, etc, etc...
>>
>>That would allow me to continue to use my XP machine until I get things
>>reinstalled under VISTA and become more familiar with it.
>>

>
> If you have an XP machine in which you have invested "years" of tuning
> then it is highly likely that your PC hardware is "years" old as
> well....
> This is *not* good news when you go and install Vista, because Vista
> is really only working well on newer types of hardware with resources
> like LOTS of RAM, fast CPU and video graphics card etc. You will
> probably be better off keeping the old XP system and buying a new PC
> with Vista.
>
> Ultimately you might try to do P2V of your existing XP system so you
> can dump the old hardware by running it as you suggest as a virtual
> machine under Vista. But that would not be Vista upgrade, it would be
> Vista on a new PC.
>
> --
> Bo Berglund

07-30-2008

>"Bo Berglund" <bo.berglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message

Quote:

>news:7t4094dqrdgd2qos20k9kp0lali34pnnvi@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:52:33 -0400, "Troy Bruder"
>> <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>

Quote:

>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of
>>>tuning
>>>invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it clean,
>>>install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual PC?? I
>>>would love to be able to do that in order to migrate all of my settings,
>>>software, apps, etc, etc...
>>>
>>>That would allow me to continue to use my XP machine until I get things
>>>reinstalled under VISTA and become more familiar with it.
>>>

>>
>> If you have an XP machine in which you have invested "years" of tuning
>> then it is highly likely that your PC hardware is "years" old as
>> well....
>> This is *not* good news when you go and install Vista, because Vista
>> is really only working well on newer types of hardware with resources
>> like LOTS of RAM, fast CPU and video graphics card etc. You will
>> probably be better off keeping the old XP system and buying a new PC
>> with Vista.
>>
>> Ultimately you might try to do P2V of your existing XP system so you
>> can dump the old hardware by running it as you suggest as a virtual
>> machine under Vista. But that would not be Vista upgrade, it would be
>> Vista on a new PC.
>>

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:14:24 -0400, "Troy Bruder"
<troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>Actually, my PC is a dual core 3ghz processor with 4 gb of RAM.... a 300GB
>SCSI drive and a 120GB IDE (which i'm going to replace with 4 SATA 3 drives
>in a RAID 5 array)...

Hardware is not a concern!
>
>troy
>

Hmmm, how *many* years exactly did you mean when talking about the
time spent optimizing the XP box? I thought it would be like 4-5 years
from your post.
Looks like quite recent hardware.....

--
Bo Berglund

07-30-2008

lol.. been running XP for as long as it's been out... Just have done a
bunch of hardware upgrade.

"Bo Berglund" <bo.berglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> >"Bo Berglund" <bo.berglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:7t4094dqrdgd2qos20k9kp0lali34pnnvi@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:52:33 -0400, "Troy Bruder"
>>> <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of
>>>>tuning
>>>>invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it clean,
>>>>install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual PC??
>>>>I
>>>>would love to be able to do that in order to migrate all of my settings,
>>>>software, apps, etc, etc...
>>>>
>>>>That would allow me to continue to use my XP machine until I get things
>>>>reinstalled under VISTA and become more familiar with it.
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you have an XP machine in which you have invested "years" of tuning
>>> then it is highly likely that your PC hardware is "years" old as
>>> well....
>>> This is *not* good news when you go and install Vista, because Vista
>>> is really only working well on newer types of hardware with resources
>>> like LOTS of RAM, fast CPU and video graphics card etc. You will
>>> probably be better off keeping the old XP system and buying a new PC
>>> with Vista.
>>>
>>> Ultimately you might try to do P2V of your existing XP system so you
>>> can dump the old hardware by running it as you suggest as a virtual
>>> machine under Vista. But that would not be Vista upgrade, it would be
>>> Vista on a new PC.
>>>

>
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:14:24 -0400, "Troy Bruder"
> <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

Quote:

>>Actually, my PC is a dual core 3ghz processor with 4 gb of RAM.... a 300GB
>>SCSI drive and a 120GB IDE (which i'm going to replace with 4 SATA 3
>>drives
>>in a RAID 5 array)...

Hardware is not a concern!
>>
>>troy
>>

> Hmmm, how *many* years exactly did you mean when talking about the
> time spent optimizing the XP box? I thought it would be like 4-5 years
> from your post.
> Looks like quite recent hardware.....
>
> --
> Bo Berglund

07-30-2008

>>>> <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>>>>
>>>>>Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of
>>>>>tuning
>>>>>invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it clean,
>>>>>install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual PC??

....

Quote:

>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you have an XP machine in which you have invested "years" of tuning
>>>> then it is highly likely that your PC hardware is "years" old as
>>>> well....

....

Quote:

>>>Actually, my PC is a dual core 3ghz processor with 4 gb of RAM.... a 300GB
>>>SCSI drive and a 120GB IDE (which i'm going to replace with 4 SATA 3
>>>drives in a RAID 5 array)...

Hardware is not a concern!

Quote:

>>>

>> Hmmm, how *many* years exactly did you mean when talking about the
>> time spent optimizing the XP box? I thought it would be like 4-5 years
>> from your post.
>> Looks like quite recent hardware.....
>>

<troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>lol.. been running XP for as long as it's been out... Just have done a
>bunch of hardware upgrade.
>

So this means that what you have done is to incrementally upgrade the
hardware on your PC to the current state it is in while all the time
keeping the installed XP, right? I guess you had to re-activate XP on
some changes like the CPU change and you have possibly also switched
MB during this time?

Anyway, back to your original question:
For VPC I think you would be disappointed in doing a conversion.

However, I have actually a few months back used VMWare's converter to
do P2V from an XP-Pro laptop when it was being replaced with a new
one. The converter is a free download on VMWare's website. It took a
while to run and it needed a second networked PC to do the conversion
from. But even though the source was a HP laptop with lots of specific
drivers and stuff, the image actually worked afterwards!

I could start up my old laptop inside VMWare Player (also a free
download). It took a bit of tweaking of the networking to get that as
I needed, but basically it was no big problems.
When it runs now it also has access to USB devices since VMWare
(unlike MS) has provided support for transfering USB connections from
the host into the guest to be used there.

--
Bo Berglund

07-30-2008

"Bo Berglund" <bo.berglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> When it runs now it also has access to USB devices since VMWare
> (unlike MS) has provided support for transfering USB connections from
> the host into the guest to be used there.

That's true for Virtual PC for Windows. Virtual PC for Mac, on the other
hand, has superb USB support...

How hard can it really be...?

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

07-30-2008

On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:16:01 +0100, "Mark Rae [MVP]"
<mark@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>"Bo Berglund" <bo.berglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:r7r194lo6i17p7q968avufclkjqkk84qbj@xxxxxx
>

Quote:

>> When it runs now it also has access to USB devices since VMWare
>> (unlike MS) has provided support for transfering USB connections from
>> the host into the guest to be used there.

>
>That's true for Virtual PC for Windows. Virtual PC for Mac, on the other
>hand, has superb USB support...

Not according to a lot of Mac users...

Quote:

>
>How hard can it really be...?

It's not difficult, its time consuming to add the code and test it. At
Connectix the CTO said it could be added in a month, if any customer
was willing to buy a couple thousand licenses, so in MS terms, that
would run about 9-12months for implementation, testing, and security.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.

07-29-2008	#1 (permalink)
Troy Bruder n/a posts	P2V XP before Vista? Hello, I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of tuning invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it clean, install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual PC?? I would love to be able to do that in order to migrate all of my settings, software, apps, etc, etc... That would allow me to continue to use my XP machine until I get things reinstalled under VISTA and become more familiar with it. Anyone ever do that before? Thanks, Troy
My System Specs

07-29-2008	#2 (permalink)
Bill Grant n/a posts	Re: P2V XP before Vista? I did it recently for a friend who was moving to Vista. We simply did a full backup before reformatting the hard disk. She only wanted to save her data, not a running XP system. You should be able to do what yo wnt with Acronis True Image and Universal Restore. (ie backup XP, reformat and install Vista, install VPC, create a vm and restore the XP installation into it). Note that not everything will work under VPC as it did on the host. You can't access USB devices on the host, the CD/DVD is read only and the video card is pretty basic. Any programs which rely on specific hardware in the host will fail. Windows Easy Transfer in Vista does a pretty good job but you have to run the first bit before you trash your XP install, so you really need two physical machines. "Troy Bruder" <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OosTL3c8IHA.3768@xxxxxx Quote: > Hello, > > I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of > tuning invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it > clean, install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual > PC?? I would love to be able to do that in order to migrate all of my > settings, software, apps, etc, etc... > > That would allow me to continue to use my XP machine until I get things > reinstalled under VISTA and become more familiar with it. > > Anyone ever do that before? > > > Thanks, > Troy > >
My System Specs

07-30-2008	#3 (permalink)
Charlie Russel - MVP n/a posts	Re: P2V XP before Vista? I've run Windows Easy Transfer to a USB hard disk - it worked well, and I was able to restore my settings after. It's not perfect, but I figure it saved me at least a full day of tweaking. -- Charlie. http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel "Bill Grant" <not.available@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:O5fYqIe8IHA.3848@xxxxxx Quote: > I did it recently for a friend who was moving to Vista. We simply did a > full backup before reformatting the hard disk. She only wanted to save her > data, not a running XP system. > > You should be able to do what yo wnt with Acronis True Image and > Universal Restore. (ie backup XP, reformat and install Vista, install VPC, > create a vm and restore the XP installation into it). Note that not > everything will work under VPC as it did on the host. You can't access USB > devices on the host, the CD/DVD is read only and the video card is pretty > basic. Any programs which rely on specific hardware in the host will fail. > > Windows Easy Transfer in Vista does a pretty good job but you have to > run the first bit before you trash your XP install, so you really need two > physical machines. > > "Troy Bruder" <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:OosTL3c8IHA.3768@xxxxxx Quote: >> Hello, >> >> I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of >> tuning invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it >> clean, install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual >> PC?? I would love to be able to do that in order to migrate all of my >> settings, software, apps, etc, etc... >> >> That would allow me to continue to use my XP machine until I get things >> reinstalled under VISTA and become more familiar with it. >> >> Anyone ever do that before? >> >> >> Thanks, >> Troy >> >>
My System Specs

07-30-2008	#4 (permalink)
Bo Berglund n/a posts	Re: P2V XP before Vista? On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:52:33 -0400, "Troy Bruder" <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Hello, > >I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of tuning >invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it clean, >install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual PC?? I >would love to be able to do that in order to migrate all of my settings, >software, apps, etc, etc... > >That would allow me to continue to use my XP machine until I get things >reinstalled under VISTA and become more familiar with it. > If you have an XP machine in which you have invested "years" of tuning then it is highly likely that your PC hardware is "years" old as well.... This is not good news when you go and install Vista, because Vista is really only working well on newer types of hardware with resources like LOTS of RAM, fast CPU and video graphics card etc. You will probably be better off keeping the old XP system and buying a new PC with Vista. Ultimately you might try to do P2V of your existing XP system so you can dump the old hardware by running it as you suggest as a virtual machine under Vista. But that would not be Vista upgrade, it would be Vista on a new PC. -- Bo Berglund
My System Specs

07-30-2008	#5 (permalink)
Troy Bruder n/a posts	Re: P2V XP before Vista? Actually, my PC is a dual core 3ghz processor with 4 gb of RAM.... a 300GB SCSI drive and a 120GB IDE (which i'm going to replace with 4 SATA 3 drives in a RAID 5 array)... Hardware is not a concern! troy "Bo Berglund" <bo.berglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:7t4094dqrdgd2qos20k9kp0lali34pnnvi@xxxxxx Quote: > On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:52:33 -0400, "Troy Bruder" > <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>Hello, >> >>I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of >>tuning >>invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it clean, >>install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual PC?? I >>would love to be able to do that in order to migrate all of my settings, >>software, apps, etc, etc... >> >>That would allow me to continue to use my XP machine until I get things >>reinstalled under VISTA and become more familiar with it. >> > > If you have an XP machine in which you have invested "years" of tuning > then it is highly likely that your PC hardware is "years" old as > well.... > This is not good news when you go and install Vista, because Vista > is really only working well on newer types of hardware with resources > like LOTS of RAM, fast CPU and video graphics card etc. You will > probably be better off keeping the old XP system and buying a new PC > with Vista. > > Ultimately you might try to do P2V of your existing XP system so you > can dump the old hardware by running it as you suggest as a virtual > machine under Vista. But that would not be Vista upgrade, it would be > Vista on a new PC. > > -- > Bo Berglund
My System Specs

07-30-2008	#6 (permalink)
Bo Berglund n/a posts	Re: P2V XP before Vista? >"Bo Berglund" <bo.berglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message Quote: >news:7t4094dqrdgd2qos20k9kp0lali34pnnvi@xxxxxx Quote: >> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:52:33 -0400, "Troy Bruder" >> <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote: >> Quote: >>>Hello, >>> >>>I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of >>>tuning >>>invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it clean, >>>install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual PC?? I >>>would love to be able to do that in order to migrate all of my settings, >>>software, apps, etc, etc... >>> >>>That would allow me to continue to use my XP machine until I get things >>>reinstalled under VISTA and become more familiar with it. >>> >> >> If you have an XP machine in which you have invested "years" of tuning >> then it is highly likely that your PC hardware is "years" old as >> well.... >> This is not good news when you go and install Vista, because Vista >> is really only working well on newer types of hardware with resources >> like LOTS of RAM, fast CPU and video graphics card etc. You will >> probably be better off keeping the old XP system and buying a new PC >> with Vista. >> >> Ultimately you might try to do P2V of your existing XP system so you >> can dump the old hardware by running it as you suggest as a virtual >> machine under Vista. But that would not be Vista upgrade, it would be >> Vista on a new PC. >> On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:14:24 -0400, "Troy Bruder" <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Actually, my PC is a dual core 3ghz processor with 4 gb of RAM.... a 300GB >SCSI drive and a 120GB IDE (which i'm going to replace with 4 SATA 3 drives >in a RAID 5 array)... Hardware is not a concern! > >troy > Hmmm, how many years exactly did you mean when talking about the time spent optimizing the XP box? I thought it would be like 4-5 years from your post. Looks like quite recent hardware..... -- Bo Berglund
My System Specs

07-30-2008	#7 (permalink)
Troy Bruder n/a posts	Re: P2V XP before Vista? lol.. been running XP for as long as it's been out... Just have done a bunch of hardware upgrade. "Bo Berglund" <bo.berglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:rk61945ai9jtss0gk0m283795rrej1kmh8@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: > >"Bo Berglund" <bo.berglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>news:7t4094dqrdgd2qos20k9kp0lali34pnnvi@xxxxxx Quote: >>> On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:52:33 -0400, "Troy Bruder" >>> <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>>Hello, >>>> >>>>I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of >>>>tuning >>>>invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it clean, >>>>install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual PC?? >>>>I >>>>would love to be able to do that in order to migrate all of my settings, >>>>software, apps, etc, etc... >>>> >>>>That would allow me to continue to use my XP machine until I get things >>>>reinstalled under VISTA and become more familiar with it. >>>> >>> >>> If you have an XP machine in which you have invested "years" of tuning >>> then it is highly likely that your PC hardware is "years" old as >>> well.... >>> This is not good news when you go and install Vista, because Vista >>> is really only working well on newer types of hardware with resources >>> like LOTS of RAM, fast CPU and video graphics card etc. You will >>> probably be better off keeping the old XP system and buying a new PC >>> with Vista. >>> >>> Ultimately you might try to do P2V of your existing XP system so you >>> can dump the old hardware by running it as you suggest as a virtual >>> machine under Vista. But that would not be Vista upgrade, it would be >>> Vista on a new PC. >>> > > On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:14:24 -0400, "Troy Bruder" > <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>Actually, my PC is a dual core 3ghz processor with 4 gb of RAM.... a 300GB >>SCSI drive and a 120GB IDE (which i'm going to replace with 4 SATA 3 >>drives >>in a RAID 5 array)... Hardware is not a concern! >> >>troy >> > Hmmm, how many years exactly did you mean when talking about the > time spent optimizing the XP box? I thought it would be like 4-5 years > from your post. > Looks like quite recent hardware..... > > -- > Bo Berglund
My System Specs

07-30-2008	#8 (permalink)
Bo Berglund n/a posts	Re: P2V XP before Vista? >>>> <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: Quote: Quote: >>>> >>>>>Hello, >>>>> >>>>>I want to install VISTA. I'm currently running XP and have YEARS of >>>>>tuning >>>>>invested in it. Is there a way to P2V my XP machine.... wipe it clean, >>>>>install Vista (Ultimate), and then run my XP in a VM under Virtual PC?? .... Quote: Quote: Quote: >>>>> >>>> >>>> If you have an XP machine in which you have invested "years" of tuning >>>> then it is highly likely that your PC hardware is "years" old as >>>> well.... .... Quote: Quote: Quote: >>>Actually, my PC is a dual core 3ghz processor with 4 gb of RAM.... a 300GB >>>SCSI drive and a 120GB IDE (which i'm going to replace with 4 SATA 3 >>>drives in a RAID 5 array)... Hardware is not a concern! Quote: Quote: Quote: >>> >> Hmmm, how many years exactly did you mean when talking about the >> time spent optimizing the XP box? I thought it would be like 4-5 years >> from your post. >> Looks like quite recent hardware..... >> <troy_bruder@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >lol.. been running XP for as long as it's been out... Just have done a >bunch of hardware upgrade. > So this means that what you have done is to incrementally upgrade the hardware on your PC to the current state it is in while all the time keeping the installed XP, right? I guess you had to re-activate XP on some changes like the CPU change and you have possibly also switched MB during this time? Anyway, back to your original question: For VPC I think you would be disappointed in doing a conversion. However, I have actually a few months back used VMWare's converter to do P2V from an XP-Pro laptop when it was being replaced with a new one. The converter is a free download on VMWare's website. It took a while to run and it needed a second networked PC to do the conversion from. But even though the source was a HP laptop with lots of specific drivers and stuff, the image actually worked afterwards! I could start up my old laptop inside VMWare Player (also a free download). It took a bit of tweaking of the networking to get that as I needed, but basically it was no big problems. When it runs now it also has access to USB devices since VMWare (unlike MS) has provided support for transfering USB connections from the host into the guest to be used there. -- Bo Berglund
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07-30-2008	#9 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP] n/a posts	Re: P2V XP before Vista? "Bo Berglund" <bo.berglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:r7r194lo6i17p7q968avufclkjqkk84qbj@xxxxxx Quote: > When it runs now it also has access to USB devices since VMWare > (unlike MS) has provided support for transfering USB connections from > the host into the guest to be used there. That's true for Virtual PC for Windows. Virtual PC for Mac, on the other hand, has superb USB support... How hard can it really be...? -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net
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07-30-2008	#10 (permalink)
Steve Jain n/a posts	Re: P2V XP before Vista? On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 00:16:01 +0100, "Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >"Bo Berglund" <bo.berglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message >news:r7r194lo6i17p7q968avufclkjqkk84qbj@xxxxxx > Quote: >> When it runs now it also has access to USB devices since VMWare >> (unlike MS) has provided support for transfering USB connections from >> the host into the guest to be used there. > >That's true for Virtual PC for Windows. Virtual PC for Mac, on the other >hand, has superb USB support... Not according to a lot of Mac users... Quote: > >How hard can it really be...? It's not difficult, its time consuming to add the code and test it. At Connectix the CTO said it could be added in a month, if any customer was willing to buy a couple thousand licenses, so in MS terms, that would run about 9-12months for implementation, testing, and security. -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ I do not work for Microsoft.
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