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Old 08-15-2008   #1 (permalink)
Barnsie
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Security Between Host and Virtual PC

Hello all!

As background: I have a 64 bit Vista Ultimate rig running Virtual PC 2007
(SP1), with a Vista 32 bit VPC set with Shared Networking (NAT) and with Undo
disk turned on (i.e. you can dispose of changes after each session). The host
machine runs Windows Live OneCare (firewall, AV/AS, etc.), and I run as an
Administrator on this machine, but with UAC turned on.

The virtual PC is running NOD32 2.7, and I run as a Standard User on this
instance. I fully patch Windows when updates come out, and update NOD32
before going on the internet with this virtual PC.

How great is the risk of the host Vista OS becoming infected with a virus
from the virtual PC in such a configuration? I know its theoretically
possible, but how realistic?

Thanks in advance!

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-15-2008   #2 (permalink)
Steve Jain
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Re: Security Between Host and Virtual PC

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:24:15 -0700, Barnsie
<Barnsie@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Hello all!
>
>As background: I have a 64 bit Vista Ultimate rig running Virtual PC 2007
>(SP1), with a Vista 32 bit VPC set with Shared Networking (NAT) and with Undo
>disk turned on (i.e. you can dispose of changes after each session). The host
>machine runs Windows Live OneCare (firewall, AV/AS, etc.), and I run as an
>Administrator on this machine, but with UAC turned on.
>
>The virtual PC is running NOD32 2.7, and I run as a Standard User on this
>instance. I fully patch Windows when updates come out, and update NOD32
>before going on the internet with this virtual PC.
>
>How great is the risk of the host Vista OS becoming infected with a virus
>from the virtual PC in such a configuration? I know its theoretically
>possible, but how realistic?
>
>Thanks in advance!
The risk is basically the same as you would have with 2 physical
computers configured in the same way.
IMHO, it's not very likely to happen.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-15-2008   #3 (permalink)
Goosbee
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RE: Security Between Host and Virtual PC

I am new to the PC world,I started with XPfor a year or so,just purchased a
Dell,which has the Vista program,I did down load the virtural program,but now
I need some one to explane just what the program does,and what it's for,I'v
read the tec notes,but I still need some one to give it to me,in layman
terms/lanuage. >
Goosbee

"Barnsie" wrote:
Quote:

> Hello all!
>
> As background: I have a 64 bit Vista Ultimate rig running Virtual PC 2007
> (SP1), with a Vista 32 bit VPC set with Shared Networking (NAT) and with Undo
> disk turned on (i.e. you can dispose of changes after each session). The host
> machine runs Windows Live OneCare (firewall, AV/AS, etc.), and I run as an
> Administrator on this machine, but with UAC turned on.
>
> The virtual PC is running NOD32 2.7, and I run as a Standard User on this
> instance. I fully patch Windows when updates come out, and update NOD32
> before going on the internet with this virtual PC.
>
> How great is the risk of the host Vista OS becoming infected with a virus
> from the virtual PC in such a configuration? I know its theoretically
> possible, but how realistic?
>
> Thanks in advance!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-16-2008   #4 (permalink)
Bo Berglund
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Re: Security Between Host and Virtual PC

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:55:01 -0700, Goosbee
<Goosbee@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>
>"Barnsie" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Hello all!
>>
>> As background: I have a 64 bit Vista Ultimate rig running Virtual PC 2007
>> (SP1), with a Vista 32 bit VPC set with Shared Networking (NAT) and with Undo
>> disk turned on (i.e. you can dispose of changes after each session). The host
>> machine runs Windows Live OneCare (firewall, AV/AS, etc.), and I run as an
>> Administrator on this machine, but with UAC turned on.
>>
>> The virtual PC is running NOD32 2.7, and I run as a Standard User on this
>> instance. I fully patch Windows when updates come out, and update NOD32
>> before going on the internet with this virtual PC.
>>
>> How great is the risk of the host Vista OS becoming infected with a virus
>> from the virtual PC in such a configuration? I know its theoretically
>> possible, but how realistic?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
Quote:

>I am new to the PC world,I started with XPfor a year or so,just purchased a
>Dell,which has the Vista program,I did down load the virtural program,but now
>I need some one to explane just what the program does,and what it's for,I'v
>read the tec notes,but I still need some one to give it to me,in layman
>terms/lanuage. >
> Goosbee
I what way does this statement have anything to do with the subject of
this thread???

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-16-2008   #5 (permalink)
Jeff
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Re: Security Between Host and Virtual PC

In article <0qvca4ts1kb4de1f9d9iqqm5qrj1kft8ms@xxxxxx>,
boberglund@xxxxxx says...
Quote:

> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:55:01 -0700, Goosbee
> <Goosbee@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> >
> >"Barnsie" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> Hello all!
> >>
> >> As background: I have a 64 bit Vista Ultimate rig running Virtual PC 2007
> >> (SP1), with a Vista 32 bit VPC set with Shared Networking (NAT) and with Undo
> >> disk turned on (i.e. you can dispose of changes after each session). The host
> >> machine runs Windows Live OneCare (firewall, AV/AS, etc.), and I run as an
> >> Administrator on this machine, but with UAC turned on.
> >>
> >> The virtual PC is running NOD32 2.7, and I run as a Standard User on this
> >> instance. I fully patch Windows when updates come out, and update NOD32
> >> before going on the internet with this virtual PC.
> >>
> >> How great is the risk of the host Vista OS becoming infected with a virus
> >> from the virtual PC in such a configuration? I know its theoretically
> >> possible, but how realistic?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance!
>
Quote:

> >I am new to the PC world,I started with XPfor a year or so,just purchased a
> >Dell,which has the Vista program,I did down load the virtural program,but now
> >I need some one to explane just what the program does,and what it's for,I'v
> >read the tec notes,but I still need some one to give it to me,in layman
> >terms/lanuage. >
> > Goosbee
>
> I what way does this statement have anything to do with the subject of
> this thread???
>
>
In a way it does :-) This thread is about security of operating systems
and Goosbee tells us he downloaded (and ran?) a program he does not know
what it does or what it is for. In general a good way to get your system
infected.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-16-2008   #6 (permalink)
Bo Berglund
Guest


 
 

Re: Security Between Host and Virtual PC

On Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:57:27 +0200, Jeff <where@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>In article <0qvca4ts1kb4de1f9d9iqqm5qrj1kft8ms@xxxxxx>,
>boberglund@xxxxxx says...
Quote:

>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 20:55:01 -0700, Goosbee
>> <Goosbee@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>> >
>> >"Barnsie" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello all!
>> >>
>> >> As background: I have a 64 bit Vista Ultimate rig running Virtual PC 2007
>> >> (SP1), with a Vista 32 bit VPC set with Shared Networking (NAT) and with Undo
>> >> disk turned on (i.e. you can dispose of changes after each session). The host
>> >> machine runs Windows Live OneCare (firewall, AV/AS, etc.), and I run as an
>> >> Administrator on this machine, but with UAC turned on.
>> >>
>> >> The virtual PC is running NOD32 2.7, and I run as a Standard User on this
>> >> instance. I fully patch Windows when updates come out, and update NOD32
>> >> before going on the internet with this virtual PC.
>> >>
>> >> How great is the risk of the host Vista OS becoming infected with a virus
>> >> from the virtual PC in such a configuration? I know its theoretically
>> >> possible, but how realistic?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance!
>>
Quote:

>> >I am new to the PC world,I started with XPfor a year or so,just purchased a
>> >Dell,which has the Vista program,I did down load the virtural program,but now
>> >I need some one to explane just what the program does,and what it's for,I'v
>> >read the tec notes,but I still need some one to give it to me,in layman
>> >terms/lanuage. >
>> > Goosbee
>>
>> I what way does this statement have anything to do with the subject of
>> this thread???
>>
>>
>In a way it does :-) This thread is about security of operating systems
>and Goosbee tells us he downloaded (and ran?) a program he does not know
>what it does or what it is for. In general a good way to get your system
>infected.
My reading is that Gosbee is a VPC2007 newbie and does not even know
where to start. Not uncommon really.
But it should be addressed by a *new* thread "How can I use VPC2007?"
or similar, or better yet by reading the FAQ and the numerous posts
here before attaching an unrelated question to a specific thread.

He will not have any security problems because he does not even know
how to create a guest and install an operating system in that yet...

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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