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Old 08-30-2008   #1 (permalink)
kavaman


 
 

Keyboard/Mouse not working, i believe its vmadditions problem?

Hi

Im getting an error there was a problem installing this hardware vm
additions pc/at enhanced ps/2 keyboard. This error started happening on a
gust operating system (winxp) when i had to do a repair installation. I
believe its a vm additions problem , but how do i uninstall / reinstall vm
additions if my keyboard and mouse are not working?
Any help would be very welcome. Thanks alot in advance.

kavaman


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Old 08-30-2008   #2 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: Keyboard/Mouse not working, i believe its vmadditions problem?

If you can boot into safe mode the keyboard and mouse may work there
and if they do, then open device manager and delete the mouse and then
reboot and see if it changes anything. If not try deleting only the
keyboard. Once you get some input method working, then you just
uninstall the additions and reinstall them.

--
Bob Comer


On Sat, 30 Au 2008 09:59:00 -0700, kavaman
<kavaman@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Hi
>
>Im getting an error there was a problem installing this hardware vm
>additions pc/at enhanced ps/2 keyboard. This error started happening on a
>gust operating system (winxp) when i had to do a repair installation. I
>believe its a vm additions problem , but how do i uninstall / reinstall vm
>additions if my keyboard and mouse are not working?
>Any help would be very welcome. Thanks alot in advance.
>
>kavaman
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-31-2008   #3 (permalink)
FACE


 
 

Re: Keyboard/Mouse not working, i believe its vmadditions problem?

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:14:18 -0400, in microsoft.public.virtualpc, FACE
<AFaceInTheCrowd@xxxxxx>, wrote
Quote:

>On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:59:00 -0700, in microsoft.public.virtualpc,
>kavaman <kavaman@xxxxxx>, wrote
>
Quote:

>>Hi
>>
>>Im getting an error there was a problem installing this hardware vm
>>additions pc/at enhanced ps/2 keyboard. This error started happening on a
>>gust operating system (winxp) when i had to do a repair installation. I
>>believe its a vm additions problem , but how do i uninstall / reinstall vm
>>additions if my keyboard and mouse are not working?
>>Any help would be very welcome. Thanks alot in advance.
>>
>>kavaman
>
>
>You don't. If one or the other were unworkable, you could do it, but with
>both unworkable...........you don't.
>
>Have you checked the settings of the VM?
Stay with me here.........

With the VM running, and from the VPC console, go into settings for the
VM, click on mouse pointer integration, click it to the 'off' state, "OK"
out of settings.
On the running VM -- using the right top radio button on the VM frame,
shut down the VM.
Reboot the VM.
Any difference? IOW, do you now have a pointer that must be captured, but
which then works?

FACE
Quote:

>
>If the files you want off of the fupped .vhd are application files and are
>important, they are not lost, in any event..............
>
>FACE
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Old 08-31-2008   #4 (permalink)
kavaman


 
 

Re: Keyboard/Mouse not working, i believe its vmadditions problem?

Cannot get into safe mode. It stops at login because i cannot choose which
profile to login. Also the cannot shutdown guest operations system because of
an application failure because i cannot use a mouse to shutdown the
application (its an app that starts on windows startup).
Keyboard does work before booting, because i get to choose which profile i
want to login to windows.
Is there anything i could do to the inf files on command prompt to try to
restore them and get the keyboard and mouse working trough that?

thefan


"FACE" wrote:
Quote:

> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:30:11 -0400, in microsoft.public.virtualpc,
> Robert Comer <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx>, wrote
>
Quote:

> >If you can boot into safe mode the keyboard and mouse may work there
> >and if they do, then open device manager and delete the mouse and then
> >reboot and see if it changes anything. If not try deleting only the
> >keyboard. Once you get some input method working, then you just
> >uninstall the additions and reinstall them.
>
> The worst case situation will be to establish a new VM using the fupped
> vhd as a "D" disk, reinstalling D apps on the new "C" to access the old
> application files on "D".
>
> (I sure wish that MS VPC 2007 referred to HD0 as HD0 instead of calling it
> Hard Disk 1)
>
> FACE
>
>
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Old 08-31-2008   #5 (permalink)
kavaman


 
 

Re: Keyboard/Mouse not working, i believe its vmadditions problem?

Sorry, cant pick up a profile when safe mode logs in ( i have two profiles)
administrator and my other profile. Which means keyboard and mouse do not
work when windows starts on safe mode, but before windows loads they do. I
was hoping i could delete some inf file at command prompt which seems to be
causing the problem?


"FACE" wrote:
Quote:

> Can't say that i understand all of what you wrote but............
>
> Start the host machine in Safe mode. (hold down f8 as it boots until you
> get the menu screen. Choose safe mode. It will only load essential
> services.
>
> You can manually start the VM after the host boots. Bring up VPC control
> panel. Disable fullscreen auto if it is on. Start VM machine from there.
> Hold down f8 as it boots. It will not load vm additions. It will not
> load the application. You will need to double click the safe mode dialogue
> box. That will capture the cursor for the VM.
> Go to control panel --> add/remove programs, and uninstall VM additions.
>
> Reboot and see what you have.
>
> FACE
>
>
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 07:46:00 -0700, in microsoft.public.virtualpc,
> kavaman <kavaman@xxxxxx>, wrote
>
Quote:

> >Cannot get into safe mode. It stops at login because i cannot choose which
> >profile to login. Also the cannot shutdown guest operations system because of
> >an application failure because i cannot use a mouse to shutdown the
> >application (its an app that starts on windows startup).
> >Keyboard does work before booting, because i get to choose which profile i
> >want to login to windows.
> >Is there anything i could do to the inf files on command prompt to try to
> >restore them and get the keyboard and mouse working trough that?
> >
> >thefan
> >
> >
> >"FACE" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 22:30:11 -0400, in microsoft.public.virtualpc,
> >> Robert Comer <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx>, wrote
> >>
> >> >If you can boot into safe mode the keyboard and mouse may work there
> >> >and if they do, then open device manager and delete the mouse and then
> >> >reboot and see if it changes anything. If not try deleting only the
> >> >keyboard. Once you get some input method working, then you just
> >> >uninstall the additions and reinstall them.
> >>
> >> The worst case situation will be to establish a new VM using the fupped
> >> vhd as a "D" disk, reinstalling D apps on the new "C" to access the old
> >> application files on "D".
> >>
> >> (I sure wish that MS VPC 2007 referred to HD0 as HD0 instead of calling it
> >> Hard Disk 1)
> >>
> >> FACE
> >>
> >>
>
>
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Old 09-01-2008   #6 (permalink)
FACE


 
 

A possibility of a "deadly embrace"?


<snip>
Quote:

>(literally cross-use that .vhd between two VMs. I would strongly recommend
>not having them both booted at once though)
<snip>

Has anyone heard of the "deadly embrace"?

It seems there is more possibility of this under MS VPC than other apps,
so how do MS OSes handle write collisions?

FACE
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Old 09-01-2008   #7 (permalink)
Steve Jain


 
 

Re: A possibility of a "deadly embrace"?

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:13:46 -0400, FACE <AFaceInTheCrowd@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

>
><snip>
Quote:

>>(literally cross-use that .vhd between two VMs. I would strongly recommend
>>not having them both booted at once though)
><snip>
>
>Has anyone heard of the "deadly embrace"?
>
>It seems there is more possibility of this under MS VPC than other apps,
>so how do MS OSes handle write collisions?
>
>FACE
You can't use one VHD with 2 VMs simultaneously...unless you've set up
differencing disks. Once the first VM uses the VHD, it is right
protected and a 2nd VM can write to it and most likely will just fail
to boot.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.
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Old 09-01-2008   #8 (permalink)
kavaman


 
 

Re: A possibility of a "deadly embrace"?

So basically i can only copy the files out from the f...ed up vhd using it as
a d drive on a working vhd? Is there some way to get the non working vhd back
to working using this method? Can i somehow remove the vmadditions from the
non working vhd this way, if you know what i mean? THANKS!





"Steve Jain" wrote:
Quote:

> On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:13:46 -0400, FACE <AFaceInTheCrowd@xxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >
> ><snip>
Quote:

> >>(literally cross-use that .vhd between two VMs. I would strongly recommend
> >>not having them both booted at once though)
> ><snip>
> >
> >Has anyone heard of the "deadly embrace"?
> >
> >It seems there is more possibility of this under MS VPC than other apps,
> >so how do MS OSes handle write collisions?
> >
> >FACE
>
> You can't use one VHD with 2 VMs simultaneously...unless you've set up
> differencing disks. Once the first VM uses the VHD, it is right
> protected and a 2nd VM can write to it and most likely will just fail
> to boot.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.
>
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Old 09-02-2008   #9 (permalink)
Bill Grant


 
 

Re: A possibility of a "deadly embrace"?

It is really no different from the situation with a physical hard disk
which won't boot. The only way to read it is to somehow boot the the machine
by some other means and then try to read files on the sick disk.

"kavaman" <kavaman@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:6FC2CAE1-A538-429A-A798-C71A1664D835@xxxxxx
Quote:

> So basically i can only copy the files out from the f...ed up vhd using it
> as
> a d drive on a working vhd? Is there some way to get the non working vhd
> back
> to working using this method? Can i somehow remove the vmadditions from
> the
> non working vhd this way, if you know what i mean? THANKS!
>
>
>
>
>
> "Steve Jain" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 09:13:46 -0400, FACE <AFaceInTheCrowd@xxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
Quote:

>> >
>> ><snip>
>> >>(literally cross-use that .vhd between two VMs. I would strongly
>> >>recommend
>> >>not having them both booted at once though)
>> ><snip>
>> >
>> >Has anyone heard of the "deadly embrace"?
>> >
>> >It seems there is more possibility of this under MS VPC than other apps,
>> >so how do MS OSes handle write collisions?
>> >
>> >FACE
>>
>> You can't use one VHD with 2 VMs simultaneously...unless you've set up
>> differencing disks. Once the first VM uses the VHD, it is right
>> protected and a 2nd VM can write to it and most likely will just fail
>> to boot.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>> I do not work for Microsoft.
>>
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Old 09-02-2008   #10 (permalink)
Bo Berglund


 
 

Re: A possibility of a "deadly embrace"?

On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 19:50:45 +1000, "Bill Grant" <not.available@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

> It is really no different from the situation with a physical hard disk
>which won't boot. The only way to read it is to somehow boot the the machine
>by some other means and then try to read files on the sick disk.
>
Except that with WinImage you can open a VHD file and read/extract
files from it onto the host system. Of course the VHD file must not be
in use by a running guest when this is done...

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)
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