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Old 09-12-2008   #1 (permalink)
Meredith9053


 
 

Newbie questions

I am just about to load my new pc. Here is what I want to do. Have two
seperate HDD one with XP Pro and one with Vista.

I have run my vista already and found it incompatible with some of my
programs. But do not want to let Vista go.

Can someone tell me the best way to set this up. I have looked at Virtual
PC and think that is my best option.

Hate to ask the stupid questions, but want to be sure.

Do i install XP or Vista first? does it matter.

When I load a program on say XP do i have to also load it onto vista too. I
assume not, but assuming is not good with pcs LOL.

My thinking is load XP on C:/ , then Virtual PC, then Vistaon E:/. Does
that make xp my main os?

Thanks for your time.
Meredith

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Old 09-12-2008   #2 (permalink)
Steve Jain


 
 

Re: Newbie questions

On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:22:03 -0700, Meredith9053
<Meredith9053@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>I am just about to load my new pc. Here is what I want to do. Have two
>seperate HDD one with XP Pro and one with Vista.
>
>I have run my vista already and found it incompatible with some of my
>programs. But do not want to let Vista go.
>
>Can someone tell me the best way to set this up. I have looked at Virtual
>PC and think that is my best option.
>
>Hate to ask the stupid questions, but want to be sure.
>
>Do i install XP or Vista first? does it matter.
What OS is the physical computer going to boot off? That's the OS you
install first.
Virtual PC allows you to run a second OS as an application. It is not
a boot manager.
Quote:

>
>When I load a program on say XP do i have to also load it onto vista too. I
>assume not, but assuming is not good with pcs LOL.
Yes, you will need to install the program in XP and Vista.
Virtual PC creates virtual machines. Each VM is a separate and
distinct computer from the physical one. If you want a program to be
accessible in both OSes, you'd need to install it in each.

Quote:

>
>My thinking is load XP on C:/ , then Virtual PC, then Vistaon E:/. Does
>that make xp my main os?
You have an incorrect understanding of Virtual PC. You install 1 OS,
that is the host OS, which resides on the physical hardware. Virtual
PC allows you to install a 2nd OS and run it on your desktop, like an
application. You don't create a 2nd partition
You can get more detailed info from my technical reference PDF for VPC
at my website.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-12-2008   #3 (permalink)
Zootal


 
 

Re: Newbie questions

Ditch Vista. Keep XP. That way you don't need to trouble with double booting
and running a VM. You will need another license for the Windows you load in
to VirtualPC, are you willing to pay for one if you don't already have it?.


"Meredith9053" <Meredith9053@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:F4F668D0-C71A-4F38-BA5E-27C04B0D35BB@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I am just about to load my new pc. Here is what I want to do. Have two
> seperate HDD one with XP Pro and one with Vista.
>
> I have run my vista already and found it incompatible with some of my
> programs. But do not want to let Vista go.
>
> Can someone tell me the best way to set this up. I have looked at Virtual
> PC and think that is my best option.
>
> Hate to ask the stupid questions, but want to be sure.
>
> Do i install XP or Vista first? does it matter.
>
> When I load a program on say XP do i have to also load it onto vista too.
> I
> assume not, but assuming is not good with pcs LOL.
>
> My thinking is load XP on C:/ , then Virtual PC, then Vistaon E:/. Does
> that make xp my main os?
>
> Thanks for your time.
> Meredith

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-12-2008   #4 (permalink)
Meredith9053


 
 

Re: Newbie questions


I hear ya mate. And i was tempted, but i love vista interface....... chics!
we love cosmetics....

i have both full licences anyway.

"Zootal" wrote:
Quote:

> Ditch Vista. Keep XP. That way you don't need to trouble with double booting
> and running a VM. You will need another license for the Windows you load in
> to VirtualPC, are you willing to pay for one if you don't already have it?.
>
>
> "Meredith9053" <Meredith9053@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:F4F668D0-C71A-4F38-BA5E-27C04B0D35BB@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >I am just about to load my new pc. Here is what I want to do. Have two
> > seperate HDD one with XP Pro and one with Vista.
> >
> > I have run my vista already and found it incompatible with some of my
> > programs. But do not want to let Vista go.
> >
> > Can someone tell me the best way to set this up. I have looked at Virtual
> > PC and think that is my best option.
> >
> > Hate to ask the stupid questions, but want to be sure.
> >
> > Do i install XP or Vista first? does it matter.
> >
> > When I load a program on say XP do i have to also load it onto vista too.
> > I
> > assume not, but assuming is not good with pcs LOL.
> >
> > My thinking is load XP on C:/ , then Virtual PC, then Vistaon E:/. Does
> > that make xp my main os?
> >
> > Thanks for your time.
> > Meredith
>
>
>
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Old 09-12-2008   #5 (permalink)
Meredith9053


 
 

Re: Newbie questions

Right, I see what you mean. That is no problem I can install both on the one
drive but will it take my vista "Upgrade" as a seperate os?

"Steve Jain" wrote:
Quote:

> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:22:03 -0700, Meredith9053
> <Meredith9053@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >I am just about to load my new pc. Here is what I want to do. Have two
> >seperate HDD one with XP Pro and one with Vista.
> >
> >I have run my vista already and found it incompatible with some of my
> >programs. But do not want to let Vista go.
> >
> >Can someone tell me the best way to set this up. I have looked at Virtual
> >PC and think that is my best option.
> >
> >Hate to ask the stupid questions, but want to be sure.
> >
> >Do i install XP or Vista first? does it matter.
>
> What OS is the physical computer going to boot off? That's the OS you
> install first.
> Virtual PC allows you to run a second OS as an application. It is not
> a boot manager.
Quote:

> >
> >When I load a program on say XP do i have to also load it onto vista too. I
> >assume not, but assuming is not good with pcs LOL.
>
> Yes, you will need to install the program in XP and Vista.
> Virtual PC creates virtual machines. Each VM is a separate and
> distinct computer from the physical one. If you want a program to be
> accessible in both OSes, you'd need to install it in each.
>
>
Quote:

> >
> >My thinking is load XP on C:/ , then Virtual PC, then Vistaon E:/. Does
> >that make xp my main os?
>
> You have an incorrect understanding of Virtual PC. You install 1 OS,
> that is the host OS, which resides on the physical hardware. Virtual
> PC allows you to install a 2nd OS and run it on your desktop, like an
> application. You don't create a 2nd partition
> You can get more detailed info from my technical reference PDF for VPC
> at my website.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.
>
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Old 09-12-2008   #6 (permalink)
Zootal


 
 

Re: Newbie questions

XP and Vista should (must?) go on seperate drives.

VirtualPC is another story entirely. Whatever you install there requires a
seperate licence key, seperate from the XP and Vista you are going to use.
That is why you need a third license for whatever you run in VPC.

"Meredith9053" <Meredith9053@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:66DB6431-013F-4371-917E-55678278885A@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Right, I see what you mean. That is no problem I can install both on the
> one
> drive but will it take my vista "Upgrade" as a seperate os?
>
> "Steve Jain" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:22:03 -0700, Meredith9053
>> <Meredith9053@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>
Quote:

>> >I am just about to load my new pc. Here is what I want to do. Have two
>> >seperate HDD one with XP Pro and one with Vista.
>> >
>> >I have run my vista already and found it incompatible with some of my
>> >programs. But do not want to let Vista go.
>> >
>> >Can someone tell me the best way to set this up. I have looked at
>> >Virtual
>> >PC and think that is my best option.
>> >
>> >Hate to ask the stupid questions, but want to be sure.
>> >
>> >Do i install XP or Vista first? does it matter.
>>
>> What OS is the physical computer going to boot off? That's the OS you
>> install first.
>> Virtual PC allows you to run a second OS as an application. It is not
>> a boot manager.
Quote:

>> >
>> >When I load a program on say XP do i have to also load it onto vista
>> >too. I
>> >assume not, but assuming is not good with pcs LOL.
>>
>> Yes, you will need to install the program in XP and Vista.
>> Virtual PC creates virtual machines. Each VM is a separate and
>> distinct computer from the physical one. If you want a program to be
>> accessible in both OSes, you'd need to install it in each.
>>
>>
Quote:

>> >
>> >My thinking is load XP on C:/ , then Virtual PC, then Vistaon E:/. Does
>> >that make xp my main os?
>>
>> You have an incorrect understanding of Virtual PC. You install 1 OS,
>> that is the host OS, which resides on the physical hardware. Virtual
>> PC allows you to install a 2nd OS and run it on your desktop, like an
>> application. You don't create a 2nd partition
>> You can get more detailed info from my technical reference PDF for VPC
>> at my website.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>> I do not work for Microsoft.
>>

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Old 09-12-2008   #7 (permalink)
Steve Jain


 
 

Re: Newbie questions

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:53:01 -0700, Meredith9053
<Meredith9053@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>
>I hear ya mate. And i was tempted, but i love vista interface....... chics!
> we love cosmetics....
>
>i have both full licences anyway.
>
Install Vista on the physical PC. Install XP in a VM. Since you only
have a few things that don't work under Vista this is the route I'd
take.
Although, depending on what it is that you can't use in Vista, VPC
might not be the solution. What can't you get working in Vista?

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-12-2008   #8 (permalink)
Bill Grant


 
 

Re: Newbie questions



"Steve Jain" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
news:u88lc4ljpj6841rt6ge2krn875sgfqhlor@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:53:01 -0700, Meredith9053
> <Meredith9053@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

>>
>>I hear ya mate. And i was tempted, but i love vista interface.......
>>chics!
>> we love cosmetics....
>>
>>i have both full licences anyway.
>>
>
> Install Vista on the physical PC. Install XP in a VM. Since you only
> have a few things that don't work under Vista this is the route I'd
> take.
> Although, depending on what it is that you can't use in Vista, VPC
> might not be the solution. What can't you get working in Vista?
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.
I run Vista Business x64 on my desktop and have XP running as a vm under
VPC 2007 SP1. I recently set up a similar system for a friend running Vista
Ultimate x64 as the host. She runs computer classes for seniors and needs
older versions of apps (like Office 2003) on XP as well as the current
versions on Vista for compatibility with her students' own machines.

The vm is set up to look like another machine on her local network and
runs well. No problems so far.

As Steve said, it depends on what you are having problems with in Vista.
The vm emulates an old PC architecture with a fairly basic video card, for
intance.



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