Vista - ActivTION : VISTA Ult VPC on VISTA Ult Host

As I understand the license agreement (retail purchase) it allows me to use
ONE copy of VISTA Ultimate within a VPC on the same host. Is that correct,
and if so can I activate it in the normal way??

Sorry if this is covered in the 100s of threads on licensing...

>Is that correct,

If you have it installed anywhere else (like on the host), no, that's
not correct, it allows one install, period.

--
Bob Comer


On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:32:01 -0700, Ian H <Ian
H@xxxxxx> wrote:

In article <ogetc4ta303lpn3hh04rgn32tqfuefjnbu@xxxxxx>, bobcomer-
removeme-@xxxxxx says...Strange, why does my c:\Windows\System32\license.rtf read (under the
heading WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE):
"4. USE WITH VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGIES. You may use the software
installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise
emulated) hardware system on the licensed device."

That just says you can use it in a VM if you wish, it doesn't grant
you a license to run second instance. If it's on the host, that's the
one install -- if it's on the guest only, that's the one install. (The
licensed device in the case of a VM is the VM itself, not the host.)

--
Bob Comer


On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 22:31:27 +0200, Jos Groot Lipman
<dontspam@xxxxxx> wrote:

"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message
newsuhtc4tdg1v6mhfvf3kqmarll2f3gkib5e@xxxxxxI would dispute that. If the OP's wording is actually correct then IMHO the
licence does say that the OS that is installed on the licensed device may be
installed on a Virtual Machine running on that licensed device...

Unfortunately you would be wrong. The wording is odd, I agree, but
the kicker here is that the licensed device is the machine, and that
means the VM, so if you installed it on the host and a VM, that would
be 2 licensed devices, not one.

--
Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>



On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:54:05 +0100, "Gordon"
<gordonbparker@xxxxxx> wrote:

"Robert Comer" wrote:
Yes, confusing. Perhaps I can clarify by distinguishing between Vista Basic
and Ultimate license terms:
Basic: "You may not use the software installed on the licensed device within
a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system"

Ultimate: "You may use the software installed on the licensed device within
a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system on the licensed device"

Now it says that:
- my software is installed on the licensed device
- I can use the software within a virtual hardware system
- the virtual hardware system is also on the licensed device

I don't see how I can install it on the the licensed device and then use it
within a VHD on a licensed device by your interpretation. IMHO of course!

My interpretation:

From the license.rtf

Please see #6



MICROSOFT WINDOWS VISTA ULTIMATE SERVICE PACK 1
ADDITIONAL LICENSE TERMS. The following additional license terms apply to
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate.
1. STORAGE. You may store one copy of the software on a storage device,
such as a network server. You may use that copy to install the software on
any other device to which a license has been assigned.

2. NETWORK USE. Instead of installing the software on the licensed device,
you may install one copy on a storage device, such as a network server. You
may use that copy only to run the software on your licensed device over an
internal network.

3. DEVICE CONNECTIONS. You may allow up to 10 other devices to connect to
the software installed on the licensed device to use File Services, Print
Services, Internet Information Services and Internet Connection Sharing and
Telephony Services. However, you may not exceed a total of 10 connections
at one time.

4. REMOTE ACCESS TECHNOLOGIES. You may access and use the software
installed on the licensed device remotely from another device using remote
access technologies as follows.
• Remote Desktop. The single primary user of the licensed device may
access a session from any other device using Remote Desktop or similar
technologies. A “session� means the experience of interacting with the
software, directly or indirectly, through any combination of input, output
and display peripherals. Other users may access a session from any device
using these technologies, if the remote device is separately licensed to run
the software.
• Other Access Technologies. You may use Remote Assistance or similar
technologies to share an active session.

5. OTHER REMOTE USES. You may allow any number of devices to access the
software installed on the licensed device for purposes other than those
described in the Device Connections and Remote Access Technologies sections
above, such as to synchronize data between devices.

6. USE WITH VIRTUALIZATION TECHNOLOGIES. You may use the software installed
on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware
system on the licensed device. If you do so, you may not play or access
content or use applications protected by any Microsoft digital, information
or enterprise rights management technology or other Microsoft rights
management services or use BitLocker. We advise against playing or
accessing content or using applications protected by other digital,
information or enterprise rights management technology or other rights
management services or using full volume disk drive encryption.

I Omitted the rest!


NOW! Seeing as how M/S has *not* said anywhere, in this section, "one
license - one install", #6 above gives you explicit approval to install the
O/S in a virtual device ON the licensed device (with certain usage
limitations concerning digital rights management).


--

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Ian H" <Ian H@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:E656CE22-1612-4958-9E74-21928B12F34C@xxxxxx

If you want to get a definitive answer, you'll have to speak to
Microsoft directly.

--
Bob Comer


On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:55:46 -0400, "Richard Urban"
<richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx> wrote:

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23UFEOxAGJHA.6132@xxxxxxThat's how I interpret it....