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| | Can I run Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Ed as a guest OS under Hi all, I have downloaded a copy of the VPC 2007 SP 1. When I create a new VPC, there is a drop down list where I can select the type of OS to run under the VPC, amongst the list are: Windows NT Server Windows Server 2003 Windows 2000 Server I have check on the two URLs below http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...ng=en#filelist http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...tes.htm#ID0EYE And there is no where it states that VPC supports Windows Server 2003 as a guest OS. Yet it is listed in the drop down list in the program. So my concern is , is it supported to install Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Ed under VPC 2007 SP1 for production use? |
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| | Re: Can I run Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Ed as a guest OS under On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:07:01 -0700, anonymoussg <anonymoussg@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Hi all, > >I have downloaded a copy of the VPC 2007 SP 1. When I create a new VPC, >there is a drop down list where I can select the type of OS to run under the >VPC, amongst the list are: > >Windows NT Server >Windows Server 2003 >Windows 2000 Server > >I have check on the two URLs below > > >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...ng=en#filelist > >http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...tes.htm#ID0EYE > >And there is no where it states that VPC supports Windows Server 2003 as a >guest OS. Yet it is listed in the drop down list in the program. > >So my concern is , is it supported to install Windows Server 2003 R2 >Enterprise Ed under VPC 2007 SP1 for production use? server chores, then you have chosen the wrong virtualization system. You need Virtual server 2005 (also a free download), because this has functions for handling server guests that need to be running 24/7. VPC2007 is basically for desktop use, i.e. for workstation type systems where the uesr interacts intimately with the desktop of the system. You *can* run a server like this but you cannot really use it as a server in its real role in a production environment because a guest in VPC2007 never runs unless someone is logged on to the desktop of the host and has started VPC2007 and alunched the guest. In VS2005 you can set the guest to start up with the operating system, thus not needing anyone to be logged on to the host. If you have the needed hardware then Hyper-V would probably be your best choice, however that is *not* a free download.... -- Bo Berglund (Sweden) |
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| | Re: Can I run Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Ed as a guest OS u Hi Bo, thanks for pointing out the feature of Virtual Server. When I tried to install it, it prompts that I need to configure my IIS. Is the IIS really necessary, or can I skip configuring the IIS portion? Assuming in my environment, I can live with the fact that I do not mind manually starting the VPC after the host has started up, is it fine that I go ahead to use VPC to run Windows 2003 as the guest OS? "Bo Berglund" wrote: Quote: > On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:07:01 -0700, anonymoussg > <anonymoussg@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: > >Hi all, > > > >I have downloaded a copy of the VPC 2007 SP 1. When I create a new VPC, > >there is a drop down list where I can select the type of OS to run under the > >VPC, amongst the list are: > > > >Windows NT Server > >Windows Server 2003 > >Windows 2000 Server > > > >I have check on the two URLs below > > > > > >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...ng=en#filelist > > > >http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...tes.htm#ID0EYE > > > >And there is no where it states that VPC supports Windows Server 2003 as a > >guest OS. Yet it is listed in the drop down list in the program. > > > >So my concern is , is it supported to install Windows Server 2003 R2 > >Enterprise Ed under VPC 2007 SP1 for production use? > If by "production use" you mean to virtualize a server used for normal > server chores, then you have chosen the wrong virtualization system. > You need Virtual server 2005 (also a free download), because this has > functions for handling server guests that need to be running 24/7. > > VPC2007 is basically for desktop use, i.e. for workstation type > systems where the uesr interacts intimately with the desktop of the > system. You *can* run a server like this but you cannot really use it > as a server in its real role in a production environment because a > guest in VPC2007 never runs unless someone is logged on to the desktop > of the host and has started VPC2007 and alunched the guest. > In VS2005 you can set the guest to start up with the operating system, > thus not needing anyone to be logged on to the host. > > If you have the needed hardware then Hyper-V would probably be your > best choice, however that is *not* a free download.... > -- > > Bo Berglund (Sweden) > |
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| | Re: Can I run Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Ed as a guest OS u "anonymoussg" <anonymoussg@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:1B9DA0E6-ACB1-410E-87DF-7012BA15B4BB@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi Bo, > > thanks for pointing out the feature of Virtual Server. When I tried to > install it, it prompts that I need to configure my IIS. Is the IIS really > necessary, or can I skip configuring the IIS portion? > > Assuming in my environment, I can live with the fact that I do not mind > manually starting the VPC after the host has started up, is it fine that I > go > ahead to use VPC to run Windows 2003 as the guest OS? I have 2 copies of XP, 1 Vista Business and 1 Server 2003 (running SQL Server 2005) running in VPC 2007 on 64 bit Vista Ultimate (company-provided MSDN subscriptions are great!) All of this is running on a Core 2 Quad machine with 8 GB of RAM and 1.5 TB of SATA-2 disk space. Performance is excellent. While this is not exactly a "production environment", it works fine. All you need to do is boot the machine, start the 2003 VPC, then ctl-alt-del and "lock" the host machine. Server 2003 will continue to run just fine. You do not need to remain "logged in" to the host machine for Server 2003 to continue to run. You can then Remote Desktop into the Server 2003 VPC to administer it, from any PC on your LAN. Of course, you can remain logged in, and continue to use the machine for your daily use. You can minimize the Server 2003 window, and it will continue to run. VPC has Options you can set to give minimized VPCs equal time. I would recommend a minimum of a Core 2 Duo with 2 GB RAM for this, with more of each always welcome. Make sure you have turned on "Hardware Virtualization" in your host computer's BIOS. This only apples to Core 2 Duo and above CPUs. Core Duos and below don't have this. This makes VPC run much more fast and smooth. Also install the "Virtual Machine Additions" once you get Server 2003 installed. This makes a HUGE performance improvement. |
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| | Re: Can I run Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Ed as a guest OS u On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:41:01 -0700, anonymoussg <anonymoussg@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >"Bo Berglund" wrote: > Quote: >> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:07:01 -0700, anonymoussg >> <anonymoussg@xxxxxx> wrote: >> Quote: >> >Hi all, >> > >> >I have downloaded a copy of the VPC 2007 SP 1. When I create a new VPC, >> >there is a drop down list where I can select the type of OS to run under the >> >VPC, amongst the list are: >> > >> >Windows NT Server >> >Windows Server 2003 >> >Windows 2000 Server >> > >> >I have check on the two URLs below >> > >> > >> >http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...ng=en#filelist >> > >> >http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...tes.htm#ID0EYE >> > >> >And there is no where it states that VPC supports Windows Server 2003 as a >> >guest OS. Yet it is listed in the drop down list in the program. >> > >> >So my concern is , is it supported to install Windows Server 2003 R2 >> >Enterprise Ed under VPC 2007 SP1 for production use? >> If by "production use" you mean to virtualize a server used for normal >> server chores, then you have chosen the wrong virtualization system. >> You need Virtual server 2005 (also a free download), because this has >> functions for handling server guests that need to be running 24/7. >> >> VPC2007 is basically for desktop use, i.e. for workstation type >> systems where the uesr interacts intimately with the desktop of the >> system. You *can* run a server like this but you cannot really use it >> as a server in its real role in a production environment because a >> guest in VPC2007 never runs unless someone is logged on to the desktop >> of the host and has started VPC2007 and alunched the guest. >> In VS2005 you can set the guest to start up with the operating system, >> thus not needing anyone to be logged on to the host. >> >> If you have the needed hardware then Hyper-V would probably be your >> best choice, however that is *not* a free download.... >> -- >> >> Bo Berglund (Sweden) >> > >thanks for pointing out the feature of Virtual Server. When I tried to >install it, it prompts that I need to configure my IIS. Is the IIS really >necessary, or can I skip configuring the IIS portion? excellent alternative in VMRC+ (also a free download from Microsoft). I have Apache on my PC and don't care much about installing IIS so I just unchecked the web parts of the install of VS2005 (custom install probably). Then I used VMRC+ to register my virtual machine, which I had already built using VPC2007. You need to be a bit careful if you go the way of migrating a guest from VPC to VS: - Only use yje VHD (hard disk file) from VPC2007, never the VMC file. - When setting up the guest in VS2005 make sure that it is set to use IDE disk access. The default is SCSI and the disk from VPC2007 is an IDE disk. Quote: >Assuming in my environment, I can live with the fact that I do not mind >manually starting the VPC after the host has started up, is it fine that I go >ahead to use VPC to run Windows 2003 as the guest OS? > In production it is not a very good solution, I still recommend VS2005. VS2005 will also run the guest quicker since it does not have to bother with sound and the graphics systems. -- Bo Berglund (Sweden) |
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| | RE: Can I run Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise Ed as a guest OS under Quote: > Hi all, > > I have downloaded a copy of the VPC 2007 SP 1. When I create a new VPC, > there is a drop down list where I can select the type of OS to run under the > VPC, amongst the list are: > > Windows NT Server > Windows Server 2003 > Windows 2000 Server > > I have check on the two URLs below > > > http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...ng=en#filelist > > http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...tes.htm#ID0EYE > > And there is no where it states that VPC supports Windows Server 2003 as a > guest OS. Yet it is listed in the drop down list in the program. > > So my concern is , is it supported to install Windows Server 2003 R2 > Enterprise Ed under VPC 2007 SP1 for production use? Posted via http://www.VirtualServerFaq.com - Brought to you by Business Information Technology Shop - http://www.bitshop.com |
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