Vista - Creating a new server with VirtualServer

09-30-2008

Hello

I have recently bought an HP ProLiant "baby" server - 160Gb SATA drive, no
SCSI discs or RAID. Into this I have added 2 x 500Gb SATA drives and then
installed and patched Windows 2003 Enterprise to Service Pack 2. However, as
things currently stand, I have NOT as yet built up a Domain.

I want to create two virtual servers, one of which would be the Domain
Controller whilst the other was a SQL Server. Since the actual reported size
of the two 500Gb discs is coming back as 465Gb apiece, I'm thinking that the
"boot" volumes of these two servers could be set up at 65Gb each, with the
remaining 800Gb being used for data storage and possibly a desktop image.

The problem that I have is that it isn't possible to boot my host server
directly from the Windows 2003 installation media, since the machine only
seems to boot directly from the HP Utilities disc that it came with, which
then leads you through various questions about the OS that you're planning to
install. The problem that I have is that if I try to boot the virtual server
from this disc, it gets so far into the initial HP setup process and then
freezes.

Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I be booting the virtual
partition from an ISO?

09-30-2008

"Ian" <ianhendersonis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:C0FED030-6AFD-413E-AA22-DC047BE5AE4D@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Hello
>
> I have recently bought an HP ProLiant "baby" server - 160Gb SATA drive, no
> SCSI discs or RAID. Into this I have added 2 x 500Gb SATA drives and then
> installed and patched Windows 2003 Enterprise to Service Pack 2. However,
> as
> things currently stand, I have NOT as yet built up a Domain.
>
> I want to create two virtual servers, one of which would be the Domain
> Controller whilst the other was a SQL Server. Since the actual reported
> size
> of the two 500Gb discs is coming back as 465Gb apiece, I'm thinking that
> the
> "boot" volumes of these two servers could be set up at 65Gb each, with the
> remaining 800Gb being used for data storage and possibly a desktop image.
>
> The problem that I have is that it isn't possible to boot my host server
> directly from the Windows 2003 installation media, since the machine only
> seems to boot directly from the HP Utilities disc that it came with, which
> then leads you through various questions about the OS that you're planning
> to
> install. The problem that I have is that if I try to boot the virtual
> server
> from this disc, it gets so far into the initial HP setup process and then
> freezes.
>
> Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I be booting the virtual
> partition from an ISO?

Virtual machines do not run from disk partitions. They run from virtual
hard disks, which are simply files on your physical disks.

The first thing you need to do is install the virtualization application,
such as VPC or Virtual Server. You then create a virtual machine and its
associated virtual hard disk.

You will need a copy of the OS you want to install in the vm. The version
which came with your server is probably tied to the hardware. In any case it
would not be legal to install it on a vm as well (and it probably would not
activate).

09-30-2008

I've already set up the VHD that I want to use. The problem I'm having is
that the machine seems to be having some issue with reading the setup disc.
I just wondered if it was possible to have the VHD set up to boot from an ISO
image in order to perform the initial setup.

"Bill Grant" wrote:

Quote:

>
>
> "Ian" <ianhendersonis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:C0FED030-6AFD-413E-AA22-DC047BE5AE4D@xxxxxx

Quote:

> > Hello
> >
> > I have recently bought an HP ProLiant "baby" server - 160Gb SATA drive, no
> > SCSI discs or RAID. Into this I have added 2 x 500Gb SATA drives and then
> > installed and patched Windows 2003 Enterprise to Service Pack 2. However,
> > as
> > things currently stand, I have NOT as yet built up a Domain.
> >
> > I want to create two virtual servers, one of which would be the Domain
> > Controller whilst the other was a SQL Server. Since the actual reported
> > size
> > of the two 500Gb discs is coming back as 465Gb apiece, I'm thinking that
> > the
> > "boot" volumes of these two servers could be set up at 65Gb each, with the
> > remaining 800Gb being used for data storage and possibly a desktop image.
> >
> > The problem that I have is that it isn't possible to boot my host server
> > directly from the Windows 2003 installation media, since the machine only
> > seems to boot directly from the HP Utilities disc that it came with, which
> > then leads you through various questions about the OS that you're planning
> > to
> > install. The problem that I have is that if I try to boot the virtual
> > server
> > from this disc, it gets so far into the initial HP setup process and then
> > freezes.
> >
> > Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I be booting the virtual
> > partition from an ISO?

>
> Virtual machines do not run from disk partitions. They run from virtual
> hard disks, which are simply files on your physical disks.
>
> The first thing you need to do is install the virtualization application,
> such as VPC or Virtual Server. You then create a virtual machine and its
> associated virtual hard disk.
>
> You will need a copy of the OS you want to install in the vm. The version
> which came with your server is probably tied to the hardware. In any case it
> would not be legal to install it on a vm as well (and it probably would not
> activate).
>
>
>
>

09-30-2008

"Ian" <ianhendersonis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:7A43F749-7E14-4419-9935-7C10B4D735CD@xxxxxx

[top-posting corrected]

Quote:

>>> The problem that I have is that it isn't possible to boot my host server
>>> directly from the Windows 2003 installation media, since the machine
>>> only
>>> seems to boot directly from the HP Utilities disc that it came with,
>>> which
>>> then leads you through various questions about the OS that you're
>>> planning
>>> to install. The problem that I have is that if I try to boot the
>>> virtual server
>>> from this disc, it gets so far into the initial HP setup process and
>>> then
>>> freezes.
>>>
>>> Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I be booting the virtual
>>> partition from an ISO?

>>
>> Virtual machines do not run from disk partitions. They run from virtual
>> hard disks, which are simply files on your physical disks.

>
> I've already set up the VHD that I want to use. The problem I'm having is
> that the machine seems to be having some issue with reading the setup
> disc.
> I just wondered if it was possible to have the VHD set up to boot from an
> ISO
> image in order to perform the initial setup.

From the Virtual PC console, click CD, Capture ISO image, select the image,
then reboot the virtual machine...

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

09-30-2008

Hi Mark

Does that mean that I need to be running Virtual PC along with Virtual Server?

Ian

"Mark Rae [MVP]" wrote:

Quote:

> "Ian" <ianhendersonis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:7A43F749-7E14-4419-9935-7C10B4D735CD@xxxxxx
>
> [top-posting corrected]
>

Quote:

> >>> The problem that I have is that it isn't possible to boot my host server
> >>> directly from the Windows 2003 installation media, since the machine
> >>> only
> >>> seems to boot directly from the HP Utilities disc that it came with,
> >>> which
> >>> then leads you through various questions about the OS that you're
> >>> planning
> >>> to install. The problem that I have is that if I try to boot the
> >>> virtual server
> >>> from this disc, it gets so far into the initial HP setup process and
> >>> then
> >>> freezes.
> >>>
> >>> Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I be booting the virtual
> >>> partition from an ISO?
> >>
> >> Virtual machines do not run from disk partitions. They run from virtual
> >> hard disks, which are simply files on your physical disks.

> >
> > I've already set up the VHD that I want to use. The problem I'm having is
> > that the machine seems to be having some issue with reading the setup
> > disc.
> > I just wondered if it was possible to have the VHD set up to boot from an
> > ISO
> > image in order to perform the initial setup.

>
> From the Virtual PC console, click CD, Capture ISO image, select the image,
> then reboot the virtual machine...
>
>
> --
> Mark Rae
> ASP.NET MVP
> http://www.markrae.net
>
>

09-30-2008

"Ian" <ianhendersonis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:35018810-7B68-493E-8822-46E45105299D@xxxxxx

[please don't top-post]

Quote:

>> From the Virtual PC console, click CD, Capture ISO image, select the
>> image,
>> then reboot the virtual machine...

>
> Does that mean that I need to be running Virtual PC along with Virtual
> Server?

Virtual Server? This is the Virtual PC newsgroup...

microsoft.public.virtualserver

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

09-30-2008

Virtual PC and Virtual Server are 2 entirely different applications, one is
not required for the other to work. I would suggest reading the help files.

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"Ian" <ianhendersonis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Hi Mark
>
> Does that mean that I need to be running Virtual PC along with Virtual
> Server?
>
> Ian
>
> "Mark Rae [MVP]" wrote:
>

Quote:

>> "Ian" <ianhendersonis@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:7A43F749-7E14-4419-9935-7C10B4D735CD@xxxxxx
>>
>> [top-posting corrected]
>>

Quote:

>> >>> The problem that I have is that it isn't possible to boot my host
>> >>> server
>> >>> directly from the Windows 2003 installation media, since the machine
>> >>> only
>> >>> seems to boot directly from the HP Utilities disc that it came with,
>> >>> which
>> >>> then leads you through various questions about the OS that you're
>> >>> planning
>> >>> to install. The problem that I have is that if I try to boot the
>> >>> virtual server
>> >>> from this disc, it gets so far into the initial HP setup process and
>> >>> then
>> >>> freezes.
>> >>>
>> >>> Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I be booting the virtual
>> >>> partition from an ISO?
>> >>
>> >> Virtual machines do not run from disk partitions. They run from
>> >> virtual
>> >> hard disks, which are simply files on your physical disks.
>> >
>> > I've already set up the VHD that I want to use. The problem I'm having
>> > is
>> > that the machine seems to be having some issue with reading the setup
>> > disc.
>> > I just wondered if it was possible to have the VHD set up to boot from
>> > an
>> > ISO
>> > image in order to perform the initial setup.

>>
>> From the Virtual PC console, click CD, Capture ISO image, select the
>> image,
>> then reboot the virtual machine...
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mark Rae
>> ASP.NET MVP
>> http://www.markrae.net
>>
>>

09-30-2008	#1 (permalink)
Ian n/a posts	Creating a new server with VirtualServer Hello I have recently bought an HP ProLiant "baby" server - 160Gb SATA drive, no SCSI discs or RAID. Into this I have added 2 x 500Gb SATA drives and then installed and patched Windows 2003 Enterprise to Service Pack 2. However, as things currently stand, I have NOT as yet built up a Domain. I want to create two virtual servers, one of which would be the Domain Controller whilst the other was a SQL Server. Since the actual reported size of the two 500Gb discs is coming back as 465Gb apiece, I'm thinking that the "boot" volumes of these two servers could be set up at 65Gb each, with the remaining 800Gb being used for data storage and possibly a desktop image. The problem that I have is that it isn't possible to boot my host server directly from the Windows 2003 installation media, since the machine only seems to boot directly from the HP Utilities disc that it came with, which then leads you through various questions about the OS that you're planning to install. The problem that I have is that if I try to boot the virtual server from this disc, it gets so far into the initial HP setup process and then freezes. Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I be booting the virtual partition from an ISO?
My System Specs

09-30-2008	#2 (permalink)
Bill Grant n/a posts	Re: Creating a new server with VirtualServer "Ian" <ianhendersonis@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:C0FED030-6AFD-413E-AA22-DC047BE5AE4D@xxxxxx Quote: > Hello > > I have recently bought an HP ProLiant "baby" server - 160Gb SATA drive, no > SCSI discs or RAID. Into this I have added 2 x 500Gb SATA drives and then > installed and patched Windows 2003 Enterprise to Service Pack 2. However, > as > things currently stand, I have NOT as yet built up a Domain. > > I want to create two virtual servers, one of which would be the Domain > Controller whilst the other was a SQL Server. Since the actual reported > size > of the two 500Gb discs is coming back as 465Gb apiece, I'm thinking that > the > "boot" volumes of these two servers could be set up at 65Gb each, with the > remaining 800Gb being used for data storage and possibly a desktop image. > > The problem that I have is that it isn't possible to boot my host server > directly from the Windows 2003 installation media, since the machine only > seems to boot directly from the HP Utilities disc that it came with, which > then leads you through various questions about the OS that you're planning > to > install. The problem that I have is that if I try to boot the virtual > server > from this disc, it gets so far into the initial HP setup process and then > freezes. > > Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I be booting the virtual > partition from an ISO? Virtual machines do not run from disk partitions. They run from virtual hard disks, which are simply files on your physical disks. The first thing you need to do is install the virtualization application, such as VPC or Virtual Server. You then create a virtual machine and its associated virtual hard disk. You will need a copy of the OS you want to install in the vm. The version which came with your server is probably tied to the hardware. In any case it would not be legal to install it on a vm as well (and it probably would not activate).
My System Specs

09-30-2008	#3 (permalink)
Ian n/a posts	Re: Creating a new server with VirtualServer I've already set up the VHD that I want to use. The problem I'm having is that the machine seems to be having some issue with reading the setup disc. I just wondered if it was possible to have the VHD set up to boot from an ISO image in order to perform the initial setup. "Bill Grant" wrote: Quote: > > > "Ian" <ianhendersonis@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:C0FED030-6AFD-413E-AA22-DC047BE5AE4D@xxxxxx Quote: > > Hello > > > > I have recently bought an HP ProLiant "baby" server - 160Gb SATA drive, no > > SCSI discs or RAID. Into this I have added 2 x 500Gb SATA drives and then > > installed and patched Windows 2003 Enterprise to Service Pack 2. However, > > as > > things currently stand, I have NOT as yet built up a Domain. > > > > I want to create two virtual servers, one of which would be the Domain > > Controller whilst the other was a SQL Server. Since the actual reported > > size > > of the two 500Gb discs is coming back as 465Gb apiece, I'm thinking that > > the > > "boot" volumes of these two servers could be set up at 65Gb each, with the > > remaining 800Gb being used for data storage and possibly a desktop image. > > > > The problem that I have is that it isn't possible to boot my host server > > directly from the Windows 2003 installation media, since the machine only > > seems to boot directly from the HP Utilities disc that it came with, which > > then leads you through various questions about the OS that you're planning > > to > > install. The problem that I have is that if I try to boot the virtual > > server > > from this disc, it gets so far into the initial HP setup process and then > > freezes. > > > > Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I be booting the virtual > > partition from an ISO? > > Virtual machines do not run from disk partitions. They run from virtual > hard disks, which are simply files on your physical disks. > > The first thing you need to do is install the virtualization application, > such as VPC or Virtual Server. You then create a virtual machine and its > associated virtual hard disk. > > You will need a copy of the OS you want to install in the vm. The version > which came with your server is probably tied to the hardware. In any case it > would not be legal to install it on a vm as well (and it probably would not > activate). > > > >
My System Specs

09-30-2008	#4 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP] n/a posts	Re: Creating a new server with VirtualServer "Ian" <ianhendersonis@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:7A43F749-7E14-4419-9935-7C10B4D735CD@xxxxxx [top-posting corrected] Quote: Quote: Quote: >>> The problem that I have is that it isn't possible to boot my host server >>> directly from the Windows 2003 installation media, since the machine >>> only >>> seems to boot directly from the HP Utilities disc that it came with, >>> which >>> then leads you through various questions about the OS that you're >>> planning >>> to install. The problem that I have is that if I try to boot the >>> virtual server >>> from this disc, it gets so far into the initial HP setup process and >>> then >>> freezes. >>> >>> Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I be booting the virtual >>> partition from an ISO? >> >> Virtual machines do not run from disk partitions. They run from virtual >> hard disks, which are simply files on your physical disks. > > I've already set up the VHD that I want to use. The problem I'm having is > that the machine seems to be having some issue with reading the setup > disc. > I just wondered if it was possible to have the VHD set up to boot from an > ISO > image in order to perform the initial setup. From the Virtual PC console, click CD, Capture ISO image, select the image, then reboot the virtual machine... -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net
My System Specs

09-30-2008	#5 (permalink)
Ian n/a posts	Re: Creating a new server with VirtualServer Hi Mark Does that mean that I need to be running Virtual PC along with Virtual Server? Ian "Mark Rae [MVP]" wrote: Quote: > "Ian" <ianhendersonis@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:7A43F749-7E14-4419-9935-7C10B4D735CD@xxxxxx > > [top-posting corrected] > Quote: Quote: > >>> The problem that I have is that it isn't possible to boot my host server > >>> directly from the Windows 2003 installation media, since the machine > >>> only > >>> seems to boot directly from the HP Utilities disc that it came with, > >>> which > >>> then leads you through various questions about the OS that you're > >>> planning > >>> to install. The problem that I have is that if I try to boot the > >>> virtual server > >>> from this disc, it gets so far into the initial HP setup process and > >>> then > >>> freezes. > >>> > >>> Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I be booting the virtual > >>> partition from an ISO? > >> > >> Virtual machines do not run from disk partitions. They run from virtual > >> hard disks, which are simply files on your physical disks. > > > > I've already set up the VHD that I want to use. The problem I'm having is > > that the machine seems to be having some issue with reading the setup > > disc. > > I just wondered if it was possible to have the VHD set up to boot from an > > ISO > > image in order to perform the initial setup. > > From the Virtual PC console, click CD, Capture ISO image, select the image, > then reboot the virtual machine... > > > -- > Mark Rae > ASP.NET MVP > http://www.markrae.net > >
My System Specs

09-30-2008	#6 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP] n/a posts	Re: Creating a new server with VirtualServer "Ian" <ianhendersonis@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:35018810-7B68-493E-8822-46E45105299D@xxxxxx [please don't top-post] Quote: Quote: >> From the Virtual PC console, click CD, Capture ISO image, select the >> image, >> then reboot the virtual machine... > > Does that mean that I need to be running Virtual PC along with Virtual > Server? Virtual Server? This is the Virtual PC newsgroup... microsoft.public.virtualserver -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net
My System Specs

09-30-2008	#7 (permalink)
David B. n/a posts	Re: Creating a new server with VirtualServer Virtual PC and Virtual Server are 2 entirely different applications, one is not required for the other to work. I would suggest reading the help files. -- ---- Crosspost, do not multipost http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm How to ask a question http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375 Help Us Help You http://dts-l.net/goodpost.htm "Ian" <ianhendersonis@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:35018810-7B68-493E-8822-46E45105299D@xxxxxx Quote: > Hi Mark > > Does that mean that I need to be running Virtual PC along with Virtual > Server? > > Ian > > "Mark Rae [MVP]" wrote: > Quote: >> "Ian" <ianhendersonis@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:7A43F749-7E14-4419-9935-7C10B4D735CD@xxxxxx >> >> [top-posting corrected] >> Quote: >> >>> The problem that I have is that it isn't possible to boot my host >> >>> server >> >>> directly from the Windows 2003 installation media, since the machine >> >>> only >> >>> seems to boot directly from the HP Utilities disc that it came with, >> >>> which >> >>> then leads you through various questions about the OS that you're >> >>> planning >> >>> to install. The problem that I have is that if I try to boot the >> >>> virtual server >> >>> from this disc, it gets so far into the initial HP setup process and >> >>> then >> >>> freezes. >> >>> >> >>> Is there something I'm doing wrong? Should I be booting the virtual >> >>> partition from an ISO? >> >> >> >> Virtual machines do not run from disk partitions. They run from >> >> virtual >> >> hard disks, which are simply files on your physical disks. >> > >> > I've already set up the VHD that I want to use. The problem I'm having >> > is >> > that the machine seems to be having some issue with reading the setup >> > disc. >> > I just wondered if it was possible to have the VHD set up to boot from >> > an >> > ISO >> > image in order to perform the initial setup. >> >> From the Virtual PC console, click CD, Capture ISO image, select the >> image, >> then reboot the virtual machine... >> >> >> -- >> Mark Rae >> ASP.NET MVP >> http://www.markrae.net >> >>
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