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| | Create a VHD Image of my laptop I am running Windows XP Professional on my laptop and want to create a VHD Image of it that I can run in Virtual PC 2007. Any ideas on how I can do this? |
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| | Re: Create a VHD Image of my laptop On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:50:02 -0700, Brian R <Brian R@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >I am running Windows XP Professional on my laptop and want to create a VHD >Image of it that I can run in Virtual PC 2007. Any ideas on how I can do >this? discussed at some lengths here. The main problem is that the laptop probably has quite recent hardware whereas the VPC guest emulates a fixed and quite old hardware configuration, for example lacking USB totally. So you need something that can handle this. Acronis with Universal Restore is said to be quite good but I have not tested it myself. What I *have* tested is the VMWare converter for making a virtual clone of a physical machine. That worked but was a longish process and requires you to have a VMWare Workstation license (not free). Before that I once tried to do a simple Ghost conversion of a laptop but failed miserably, not even a repair install of XP managed to get it going without bluescreening. Bottom line is that it is not easy and you will have to test it yourself. Depending on hardware you might and might not succeed.... -- Bo Berglund (Sweden) |
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| | Re: Create a VHD Image of my laptop "Brian R" <Brian R@xxxxxx> wrote in message news FE1EB2E-29D5-4DD2-BAED-8454484302E5@xxxxxxQuote: >I am running Windows XP Professional on my laptop and want to create a VHD > Image of it that I can run in Virtual PC 2007. Any ideas on how I can do > this? HI Brian, Further to the advice that Bo has given, there is another problem here in that the copy of XP on your laptop is most likely OEM and tied to the laptop, probably BIOS locked. You would not be able to use it in a virtual machine. Then there is the licensing issue - you would need a new license for any operating system installed in a virtual machine. -- Jane, not plain 64 bit enabled :-)Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-) MVP - Windows Desktop Experience |
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| | Re: Create a VHD Image of my laptop >This is a p2v (physical to virtual) conversion and it has Quote: >been discussed at some lengths here. The main >problem is that the laptop probably has quite recent >hardware whereas the VPC guest emulates a fixed >and quite old hardware configuration, for example >lacking USB totally. > confused. I have been using a .vhd file that was created three years ago. I have used in on at least three different destops and other have used in on probably another 3 or 4. In those years the hardware differences and driver versions must have been very different. Why would a virtual machine created three years ago work on presumedly so many machines which are somewhat different hardware wise, but a ghost of one machine cannot be installed into a new virtual machine. It would seem the current virtual machine somehow resolves the hardware differences when copied to each machine and started so it would seem creating a new virtual machine and loading a ghost would resolve the issues as well. ----------------------- If I were to speculate, I assume to load a ghost image you must first create the virtual machine and install the OS which fixes the virtual machine for that PC. If the ghost was of a different PC with different hardware, you would get an immediate conflict. But if this were true, could I create a ghost of computer A, create a virtual machine on computer A, restore the ghost of computer A on the virtual machine. Once that was done, copy the .vhd to computer B and have it work? -- There are 10 kinds of people, those who understand binary and those that don't There's no place like 127.0.0.1 ================================ 3.14159 + Ice Cream = Pi ala mode "Bo Berglund" wrote: Quote: > On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:50:02 -0700, Brian R <Brian > R@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: > >I am running Windows XP Professional on my laptop and want to create a VHD > >Image of it that I can run in Virtual PC 2007. Any ideas on how I can do > >this? > This is a p2v (physical to virtual) conversion and it has been > discussed at some lengths here. The main problem is that the laptop > probably has quite recent hardware whereas the VPC guest emulates a > fixed and quite old hardware configuration, for example lacking USB > totally. > > So you need something that can handle this. Acronis with Universal > Restore is said to be quite good but I have not tested it myself. > What I *have* tested is the VMWare converter for making a virtual > clone of a physical machine. That worked but was a longish process and > requires you to have a VMWare Workstation license (not free). > Before that I once tried to do a simple Ghost conversion of a laptop > but failed miserably, not even a repair install of XP managed to get > it going without bluescreening. > > Bottom line is that it is not easy and you will have to test it > yourself. Depending on hardware you might and might not succeed.... > > -- > > Bo Berglund (Sweden) > |
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| | Re: Create a VHD Image of my laptop On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:11:00 -0700, Jeff Tressler <JeffTressler@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: Quote: >>This is a p2v (physical to virtual) conversion and it has >>been discussed at some lengths here. The main >>problem is that the laptop probably has quite recent >>hardware whereas the VPC guest emulates a fixed >>and quite old hardware configuration, for example >>lacking USB totally. >> >confused. I have been using a .vhd file that was created three years ago. I >have used in on at least three different destops and other have used in on >probably another 3 or 4. In those years the hardware differences and driver >versions must have been very different. assume that you really man that you have used the VHD file as the hard disk of VPC guests running on these different platforms, right? Then you have actually used it in a hardware environment thta has *not* changed because what a virtual machine (the guest) sees as the hardware is what VirtualPC supplies to it as *emulated* hardware and this does not change at all when you go to different host systems. The only two items taken from the host system is the CPU and RAM, everything else is emulated and fixed. Quote: >Why would a virtual machine created three years ago work on presumedly so >many machines which are somewhat different hardware wise, but a ghost of one >machine cannot be installed into a new virtual machine. Acronis or any other of the different imaging products avilable you will make a bit-by-bit copy of the hard drive of that PC. This then includes all of the active hardware drivers needed to run Windows on that physical machine. Now, if you restore this on a virtual machine you will do so to a PC with old and limited hardware that does not compare to the hardware on the PC ffrom where you took the image. This is why it will not work directly. Quote: >It would seem the current virtual machine somehow resolves the hardware >differences when copied to each machine and started so it would seem creating >a new virtual machine and loading a ghost would resolve the issues as well. > emulated hardware environment for every virtual machine irrespective of which host platform it runs on. Quote: > >If I were to speculate, I assume to load a ghost image you must first create >the virtual machine and install the OS which fixes the virtual machine for >that PC. If the ghost was of a different PC with different hardware, you >would get an immediate conflict. > >But if this were true, could I create a ghost of computer A, create a >virtual machine on computer A, restore the ghost of computer A on the virtual >machine. Once that was done, copy the .vhd to computer B and have it work? reflect back on the hardware visible inside the virtual machine, it is still the old emulated system that is provided by the VPC host application. Your mistake is simple: You have wrongly assumed that the virtual machine sees the same hardware as the host runs on and this is simply not the case! Everything else in your discussion originates from this mistake. -- Bo Berglund (Sweden) |
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