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Old 10-26-2008   #1 (permalink)
Dayzed and cnofsude


 
 

Vista Home Premium

I am running Vista Home Premium on my home PC and would like to learn (at my
own pace) about virtual computing, however when I ask my more knowledgeable
work colleagues as to whether I can install Microsoft Virtual PC on Vista
Home Premium I get conflicting answers.
Microsoft say that they don't support Virtual PC on Vista Home Premium -
but at least 2 of my colleagues say they have installed it on their own
instillations of Home Premium.
Can I or can't I ..... and if I can't what virtual set up would you
recommend I go with ?
TIA


My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-26-2008   #2 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: Vista Home Premium

>Microsoft say that they don't support Virtual PC on Vista Home Premium -

That's a true statement.
Quote:

>but at least 2 of my colleagues say they have installed it on their own
>instillations of Home Premium.
That's also true. Just because it's not supported, doesn't mean it
will not work, just that it's not certified to work. It runs just
fine on home versions.

The only problem is that if you find a problem with VPC, you can't get
support from Microsoft to make it work. (there's always this
newsgroup that can help. <g>)
Quote:

>and if I can't what virtual set up would you
>recommend I go with ?
That all depends on what you want to do.

--
Bob Comer


On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:36:59 -0000, "Dayzed and cnofsude"
<yeaplease@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>I am running Vista Home Premium on my home PC and would like to learn (at my
>own pace) about virtual computing, however when I ask my more knowledgeable
>work colleagues as to whether I can install Microsoft Virtual PC on Vista
>Home Premium I get conflicting answers.
>Microsoft say that they don't support Virtual PC on Vista Home Premium -
>but at least 2 of my colleagues say they have installed it on their own
>instillations of Home Premium.
>Can I or can't I ..... and if I can't what virtual set up would you
>recommend I go with ?
>TIA
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-26-2008   #3 (permalink)
Dayzed and cnofsude


 
 

Re: Vista Home Premium



"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:gm29g41tj24qfcp5din9jeeaa4te2ebjko@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>>Microsoft say that they don't support Virtual PC on Vista Home Premium -
>
> That's a true statement.
>
Quote:

>>but at least 2 of my colleagues say they have installed it on their own
>>instillations of Home Premium.
>
> That's also true. Just because it's not supported, doesn't mean it
> will not work, just that it's not certified to work. It runs just
> fine on home versions.
>
> The only problem is that if you find a problem with VPC, you can't get
> support from Microsoft to make it work. (there's always this
> newsgroup that can help. <g>)
>
Quote:

>>and if I can't what virtual set up would you
>>recommend I go with ?
>
> That all depends on what you want to do.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:36:59 -0000, "Dayzed and cnofsude"
> <yeaplease@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

>>I am running Vista Home Premium on my home PC and would like to learn (at
>>my
>>own pace) about virtual computing, however when I ask my more
>>knowledgeable
>>work colleagues as to whether I can install Microsoft Virtual PC on Vista
>>Home Premium I get conflicting answers.
>>Microsoft say that they don't support Virtual PC on Vista Home Premium -
>>but at least 2 of my colleagues say they have installed it on their own
>>instillations of Home Premium.
>>Can I or can't I ..... and if I can't what virtual set up would you
>>recommend I go with ?
>>TIA
As a reply that was a waste of time don't you think? All you have done is
confirmed that 2 statements I made were not blatant lies , suggested I use
the NG for knowledge and stated the bloody obvious for the 4th time.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-26-2008   #4 (permalink)
Bo Berglund


 
 

Re: Vista Home Premium

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:36:59 -0000, "Dayzed and cnofsude"
<yeaplease@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>I am running Vista Home Premium on my home PC and would like to learn (at my
>own pace) about virtual computing, however when I ask my more knowledgeable
>work colleagues as to whether I can install Microsoft Virtual PC on Vista
>Home Premium I get conflicting answers.
>Microsoft say that they don't support Virtual PC on Vista Home Premium -
>but at least 2 of my colleagues say they have installed it on their own
>instillations of Home Premium.
>Can I or can't I ..... and if I can't what virtual set up would you
>recommend I go with ?
>TIA
VPC2007 *can* be installed on Home versions of Windows, even though
Microsoft will not support it in the sense that they will not answer
questions on their hotline if the host is a Home version.
Just click past the disclaimer and it installs fine.

Concerning the way to go after, please be aware that if you want to
test with different versions of Windows you need a separate license
for each guest PC you create and install Windows on. This is a
Microsoft licensing limitation.

But if what you want to do is explore the Linux world I would advice
against VPC2007 altogether because even if some Linux distros can be
made to work with VPC2007 there are so many problems that it is not
worth the bother.
In such case get yourself VMWare Player from VMWare instead!
For this here exists ready made downloade for many Linux distributions
thta work directly. You can even get a Sun Solaris virtual machine
from the net that is ready to go.
VMWare Player is a free download from them.

Finally, VPC2007 does not handle USB at all so any device you might
want to use that connects by USB is invisible inside VPC2007, whereas
it can be passed through to the guest in VMWare Player.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-26-2008   #5 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP]


 
 

Re: Vista Home Premium

"Dayzed and cnofsude" <yeaplease@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ge24i2$ot5$1@xxxxxx
Quote:

> As a reply that was a waste of time don't you think? All you have done is
> confirmed that 2 statements I made were not blatant lies , suggested I use
> the NG for knowledge and stated the bloody obvious for the 4th time.
I wouldn't bother trying to use this newsgroup now either...

<plonk>


--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-26-2008   #6 (permalink)
Bob Campbell


 
 

Re: Vista Home Premium

"Dayzed and cnofsude" <yeaplease@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:ge24i2$ot5$1@xxxxxx
Quote:

> As a reply that was a waste of time don't you think? All you have done is
> confirmed that 2 statements I made were not blatant lies , suggested I use
> the NG for knowledge and stated the bloody obvious for the 4th time.
No, he answered your question. Yes, it is unsupported. Yes, it will run
anyways. What else do you need to know?

Your name appears to be accurate.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-26-2008   #7 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: Vista Home Premium

>As a reply that was a waste of time don't you think?

Not to me, I answered your question, but you are, of course, the sole
determiner if it helped you or not.
Quote:

>All you have done is
>confirmed that 2 statements I made were not blatant lies
Not quite, I confirmed the statements were true.
Quote:

>suggested I use
>the NG for knowledge
Since you don't have official support for a home OS, it was just a
suggestion.
Quote:

> and stated the bloody obvious for the 4th time.
That's all I could do without you expanding on what you want to do.
The virtualization field is as huge a topic as anything in the
non-virtual world of computing.

Sorry I didn't answer the way you wanted me to.

--
Bob Comer


On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 16:06:11 -0000, "Dayzed and cnofsude"
<yeaplease@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>
>
>"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:gm29g41tj24qfcp5din9jeeaa4te2ebjko@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>>>Microsoft say that they don't support Virtual PC on Vista Home Premium -
>>
>> That's a true statement.
>>
Quote:

>>>but at least 2 of my colleagues say they have installed it on their own
>>>instillations of Home Premium.
>>
>> That's also true. Just because it's not supported, doesn't mean it
>> will not work, just that it's not certified to work. It runs just
>> fine on home versions.
>>
>> The only problem is that if you find a problem with VPC, you can't get
>> support from Microsoft to make it work. (there's always this
>> newsgroup that can help. <g>)
>>
Quote:

>>>and if I can't what virtual set up would you
>>>recommend I go with ?
>>
>> That all depends on what you want to do.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:36:59 -0000, "Dayzed and cnofsude"
>> <yeaplease@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>
Quote:

>>>I am running Vista Home Premium on my home PC and would like to learn (at
>>>my
>>>own pace) about virtual computing, however when I ask my more
>>>knowledgeable
>>>work colleagues as to whether I can install Microsoft Virtual PC on Vista
>>>Home Premium I get conflicting answers.
>>>Microsoft say that they don't support Virtual PC on Vista Home Premium -
>>>but at least 2 of my colleagues say they have installed it on their own
>>>instillations of Home Premium.
>>>Can I or can't I ..... and if I can't what virtual set up would you
>>>recommend I go with ?
>>>TIA
>
>As a reply that was a waste of time don't you think? All you have done is
>confirmed that 2 statements I made were not blatant lies , suggested I use
>the NG for knowledge and stated the bloody obvious for the 4th time.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-27-2008   #8 (permalink)
Dayzed and cnofsude


 
 

Re: Vista Home Premium



"Bo Berglund" >
Quote:

> VPC2007 *can* be installed on Home versions of Windows, even though
> Microsoft will not support it in the sense that they will not answer
> questions on their hotline if the host is a Home version.
> Just click past the disclaimer and it installs fine.
>
> Concerning the way to go after, please be aware that if you want to
> test with different versions of Windows you need a separate license
> for each guest PC you create and install Windows on. This is a
> Microsoft licensing limitation.
>
> But if what you want to do is explore the Linux world I would advice
> against VPC2007 altogether because even if some Linux distros can be
> made to work with VPC2007 there are so many problems that it is not
> worth the bother.
> In such case get yourself VMWare Player from VMWare instead!
> For this here exists ready made downloade for many Linux distributions
> thta work directly. You can even get a Sun Solaris virtual machine
> from the net that is ready to go.
> VMWare Player is a free download from them.
>
> Finally, VPC2007 does not handle USB at all so any device you might
> want to use that connects by USB is invisible inside VPC2007, whereas
> it can be passed through to the guest in VMWare Player.
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)
Thank you very much Bo that was all good useful information, thanks again
for your time and trouble.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-27-2008   #9 (permalink)
Dayzed and cnofsude


 
 

Re: Vista Home Premium



"Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uKG0c35NJHA.1488@xxxxxx
Quote:

> "Dayzed and cnofsude" <yeaplease@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:ge24i2$ot5$1@xxxxxx
>
Quote:

>> As a reply that was a waste of time don't you think? All you have done is
>> confirmed that 2 statements I made were not blatant lies , suggested I
>> use the NG for knowledge and stated the bloody obvious for the 4th time.
>
> I wouldn't bother trying to use this newsgroup now either...
>
> <plonk>
>
>
> --
> Mark Rae
> ASP.NET MVP
> http://www.markrae.net
Why is that - is my opinion, which was actually a statement of fact, not as
valid as your rudeness? Or is this yet another example of a Usenet private
club where everyone is expected to lick your ass to take part in your NG ?
<plonk>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-27-2008   #10 (permalink)
Melelina


 
 

Re: Vista Home Premium


"Bo Berglund" <boberglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:n969g49aiau206inq7v74uceh3e3inngag@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:36:59 -0000, "Dayzed and cnofsude"
> <yeaplease@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>Can I or can't I ..... and if I can't what virtual set up would you
>>recommend I go with ?
>>TIA
>
> VPC2007 *can* be installed on Home versions of Windows, even though
> Microsoft will not support it in the sense that they will not answer
> questions on their hotline if the host is a Home version.
Quote:

>>
> Finally, VPC2007 does not handle USB at all so any device you might
> want to use that connects by USB is invisible inside VPC2007, whereas
> it can be passed through to the guest in VMWare Player.
How come Vista on VPC sees and uses my USB printer? How come my USB mouse
works? Do you mean other USB devices like my camera would not work if I
plugged it into a USB port on my monitor and then tried to download photos
from it to the Vista virtual machine, instead of the host, that I couldn't
do that? (I have no idea why I would want to do that though).
Quote:

>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)

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