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| | Is this a Vista or VPC problem? I have a new laptop with Vista Home Premium 64-bit (SP1) and my VPC installed fine, the Win2K installed into VPC nicely (as it did on my old Win XP Pro machine) but there is considerable "jerkiness" in the guest OS. If I select something like a movie clip, the media player starts up fine, but then the whole clip is just a series of still shots interspersed with hacked-up sound. Mouse movement will halt minutely as I move the pointer across the screen, and other signs of 'something' taking up CPU time. Explorer windows will open, but then stutter as files populate the panels in bursts. The Program manager shows nothing I would really call a cycle stealer on either the guest OR the host. The host has a Intel Pentium Dual T3200 @ 2Ghz/2Ghz and 4GB of RAM. I have 1G allocated to the Guest. This will happen with nothing running on the host (other than background tasks). As this is my first experience with Vista (but I have been 'into computers' for over 45 years) I am momentarily at a loss to explain why VPC runs the guest so sluggishly. GP |
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| | Re: Is this a Vista or VPC problem? On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:23:00 -0700, Grand_Poohbah <GrandPoohbah@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >I have a new laptop with Vista Home Premium 64-bit (SP1) and my VPC installed >fine, the Win2K installed into VPC nicely (as it did on my old Win XP Pro >machine) but there is considerable "jerkiness" in the guest OS. > >If I select something like a movie clip, the media player starts up fine, >but then the whole clip is just a series of still shots interspersed with >hacked-up sound. Mouse movement will halt minutely as I move the pointer >across the screen, and other signs of 'something' taking up CPU time. >Explorer windows will open, but then stutter as files populate the panels in >bursts. > >The Program manager shows nothing I would really call a cycle stealer on >either the guest OR the host. The host has a Intel Pentium Dual T3200 @ >2Ghz/2Ghz and 4GB of RAM. I have 1G allocated to the Guest. This will happen >with nothing running on the host (other than background tasks). > >As this is my first experience with Vista (but I have been 'into computers' >for over 45 years) I am momentarily at a loss to explain why VPC runs the >guest so sluggishly. > -- Bo Berglund (Sweden) |
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| | Re: Is this a Vista or VPC problem? "Bo Berglund" wrote: Quote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:23:00 -0700, Grand_Poohbah > <GrandPoohbah@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: > >I have a new laptop with Vista Home Premium 64-bit (SP1) and my VPC installed > >fine, the Win2K installed into VPC nicely (as it did on my old Win XP Pro > >machine) but there is considerable "jerkiness" in the guest OS. > > > >If I select something like a movie clip, the media player starts up fine, > >but then the whole clip is just a series of still shots interspersed with > >hacked-up sound. Mouse movement will halt minutely as I move the pointer > >across the screen, and other signs of 'something' taking up CPU time. > >Explorer windows will open, but then stutter as files populate the panels in > >bursts. > > > >The Program manager shows nothing I would really call a cycle stealer on > >either the guest OR the host. The host has a Intel Pentium Dual T3200 @ > >2Ghz/2Ghz and 4GB of RAM. I have 1G allocated to the Guest. This will happen > >with nothing running on the host (other than background tasks). > > > >As this is my first experience with Vista (but I have been 'into computers' > >for over 45 years) I am momentarily at a loss to explain why VPC runs the > >guest so sluggishly. > > > Did you install the Virtual Machine Additions in the guest? > > > -- > > Bo Berglund (Sweden) > items freely between guest and host (but even then the action is choppy). GP |
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| | Re: Is this a Vista or VPC problem? >> Quote: > > Sorry, Bo, I should have added that I did install the additions. I can move > items freely between guest and host (but even then the action is choppy). > > GP > Express Mobile with up to date drivers. GP |
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| | Re: Is this a Vista or VPC problem? ---> Quote: > On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 08:23:00 -0700, in microsoft.public.virtualpc, > Grand_Poohbah <GrandPoohbah@xxxxxx>, wrote > Quote: >> As this is my first experience with Vista (but I have been 'into computers' >> for over 45 years) I am momentarily at a loss to explain why VPC runs the >> guest so sluggishly. >> >> GP > 45 years? Does the phrase "Cambridge Time Sharing System" mean anything > to you? > > Suppose that every command is presented to the Host as an argument and the > host is busy.................... > > FACE > > > SuperNovas, but DEC mainframes had a large part of my life also. I went into the Navy in 1962 and worked with Grace Hopper at the NRL for a bit, then moved onward to more operational programs within the Naval Security Group. GP |
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| | Re: Is this a Vista or VPC problem? "Grand_Poohbah" <GrandPoohbah@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:C8C292F3-88FA-4B32-967D-CFA80242FE73@xxxxxx Quote: >I have a new laptop with Vista Home Premium 64-bit (SP1) and my VPC >installed > fine, the Win2K installed into VPC nicely (as it did on my old Win XP Pro > machine) but there is considerable "jerkiness" in the guest OS. > > If I select something like a movie clip, the media player starts up fine, > but then the whole clip is just a series of still shots interspersed with > hacked-up sound. Mouse movement will halt minutely as I move the pointer > across the screen, and other signs of 'something' taking up CPU time. > Explorer windows will open, but then stutter as files populate the panels > in > bursts. be doing that in Vista, as the VPC video card is pretty lame. However, jerky mouse movement and other "stutters" indicate something else is wrong. Did you enable Hardware Virtualization? I daily run 2 copies of XP and a Server 2003 running SQL Server 2005 in VPC on this Vista 64 system. I have 4 GB RAM and 2.4 Ghz Core 2 Quad system. Performance is excellent, but I have to admit I haven't tried watching a video in the guest. I just assumed it wouldn't work well due to the weak video card that VPC presents to the guest OS. |
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| | Re: Is this a Vista or VPC problem? ---> Quote: > "Grand_Poohbah" <GrandPoohbah@xxxxxx> wrote in > message news:C8C292F3-88FA-4B32-967D-CFA80242FE73@xxxxxx Quote: >> I have a new laptop with Vista Home Premium 64-bit (SP1) and my VPC >> installed >> fine, the Win2K installed into VPC nicely (as it did on my old Win XP Pro >> machine) but there is considerable "jerkiness" in the guest OS. >> >> If I select something like a movie clip, the media player starts up fine, >> but then the whole clip is just a series of still shots interspersed with >> hacked-up sound. Mouse movement will halt minutely as I move the pointer >> across the screen, and other signs of 'something' taking up CPU time. >> Explorer windows will open, but then stutter as files populate the >> panels in >> bursts. > Well, VPC is not really suited to watching videos in the guest. You > should be doing that in Vista, as the VPC video card is pretty lame. > > However, jerky mouse movement and other "stutters" indicate something > else is wrong. Did you enable Hardware Virtualization? I daily run > 2 copies of XP and a Server 2003 running SQL Server 2005 in VPC on this > Vista 64 system. I have 4 GB RAM and 2.4 Ghz Core 2 Quad system. > Performance is excellent, but I have to admit I haven't tried watching a > video in the guest. I just assumed it wouldn't work well due to the > weak video card that VPC presents to the guest OS. something that needs to be enabled in CMOS originally? I only checked a video after all the other things started stuttering. I realize that the video card is really lame - but I do know how to add another 8Mb to it. Haven't done it yet, but maybe that will help. GP |
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| | Re: Is this a Vista or VPC problem? "Grand_Poobah" <whatever@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%231xA6dsOJHA.3748@xxxxxx Quote: > Hardware virtualization is greyed-out on my copy here. Is that something > that needs to be enabled in CMOS originally? disabled by default. You have to manually enable it AND power down and back on to enable it. The CPU needs a full reset to enable it. Quote: > I only checked a video after all the other things started stuttering. I > realize that the video card is really lame - but I do know how to add > another 8Mb to it. Haven't done it yet, but maybe that will help. |
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| | Re: Is this a Vista or VPC problem? ---> Quote: > "Grand_Poobah" <whatever@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:%231xA6dsOJHA.3748@xxxxxx Quote: >> Hardware virtualization is greyed-out on my copy here. Is that >> something that needs to be enabled in CMOS originally? > Yes, it is a BIOS option, and every machine I have that has it (4) it > was disabled by default. You have to manually enable it AND power down > and back on to enable it. The CPU needs a full reset to enable it. > Quote: >> I only checked a video after all the other things started stuttering. >> I realize that the video card is really lame - but I do know how to >> add another 8Mb to it. Haven't done it yet, but maybe that will help. > Cool. How do you do that? > > > You can add another 8Mb of video RAM by editing the VMC file for that machine. You search the XML for the phrase 'video_adaptor' and change the value of "8" to "16". You can't go higher than that though. GP |
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| | Re: Is this a Vista or VPC problem? ---> Quote: > ---> Quote: >> "Grand_Poobah" <whatever@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:%231xA6dsOJHA.3748@xxxxxx Quote: >>> Hardware virtualization is greyed-out on my copy here. Is that >>> something that needs to be enabled in CMOS originally? >> Yes, it is a BIOS option, and every machine I have that has it (4) it >> was disabled by default. You have to manually enable it AND power >> down and back on to enable it. The CPU needs a full reset to enable it. >> Quote: >>> I only checked a video after all the other things started >>> stuttering. I realize that the video card is really lame - but I do >>> know how to add another 8Mb to it. Haven't done it yet, but maybe >>> that will help. >> Cool. How do you do that? >> >> >> > Aha! I will do that right now and report back. > > You can add another 8Mb of video RAM by editing the VMC file for that > machine. You search the XML for the phrase 'video_adaptor' and change > the value of "8" to "16". You can't go higher than that though. > > GP BIOS is "InsydeH2O" version 3.5 and apparently doesn't allow virtualization for some reason. GP |
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