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| | VPC07 and Netware Here's my crazy setup for a customer. He is using an older Novell server with 98 workstations running netware. SHORT story, he will not give up 98 for MANY reasons but new software that he subscribes to will not support 98 anymore. In comes MS VPC, installed it on new comp with xp pro, installed 98se on vpc, installed latest netware on xp, installed last version of netware to support 98. XP side interfaces with novell perfect, 98 side looked like it did but it is only "partially" connected. That is it can see a few folders on server but does not see everything, can see printers but comes back saying it does not have admin privileges to use them when trying to install them. Basicaly its not fully connected. Suspect its to do with ipx and VPC. |
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| | Re: VPC07 and Netware "VersaLife" <VersaLife@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EB81DDDA-5CB2-4327-8C1F-359CB6F07586@xxxxxx Quote: > Here's my crazy setup for a customer. He is using an older Novell server > with > 98 workstations running netware. SHORT story, he will not give up 98 for > MANY > reasons but new software that he subscribes to will not support 98 > anymore. > In comes MS VPC, installed it on new comp with xp pro, installed 98se on > vpc, > installed latest netware on xp, installed last version of netware to > support > 98. XP side interfaces with novell perfect, 98 side looked like it did but > it > is only "partially" connected. That is it can see a few folders on server > but > does not see everything, can see printers but comes back saying it does > not > have admin privileges to use them when trying to install them. Basicaly > its > not fully connected. Suspect its to do with ipx and VPC. What kind of networking are you using in the VM? I would think you would need to use the real network adapter option, not NAT Shared Networking. If you are already using this then I have no idea, it's been over 10 years since I've touched a Novell network. Thank God. |
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| | Re: VPC07 and Netware Yep I'm using the real NIC. Even tried installing a second NIC and making VM use it. But that did'nt work because XP\Netware side must be communicating on both and confusing the Novell Server when the 98\Netware side communicates. Perhaps blocking all access besides VM on the second adapter using Windows Firewall would solve it? "Bob Campbell" wrote: Quote: > "VersaLife" <VersaLife@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:EB81DDDA-5CB2-4327-8C1F-359CB6F07586@xxxxxx Quote: > > Here's my crazy setup for a customer. He is using an older Novell server > > with > > 98 workstations running netware. SHORT story, he will not give up 98 for > > MANY > > reasons but new software that he subscribes to will not support 98 > > anymore. > > In comes MS VPC, installed it on new comp with xp pro, installed 98se on > > vpc, > > installed latest netware on xp, installed last version of netware to > > support > > 98. XP side interfaces with novell perfect, 98 side looked like it did but > > it > > is only "partially" connected. That is it can see a few folders on server > > but > > does not see everything, can see printers but comes back saying it does > > not > > have admin privileges to use them when trying to install them. Basicaly > > its > > not fully connected. Suspect its to do with ipx and VPC. > Novell? Win98? Shudder. > > What kind of networking are you using in the VM? I would think you would > need to use the real network adapter option, not NAT Shared Networking. > > If you are already using this then I have no idea, it's been over 10 years > since I've touched a Novell network. Thank God. > > |
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| | Re: VPC07 and Netware "VersaLife" <VersaLife@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:00D47832-4785-45F7-819C-26DA9489F9BA@xxxxxx Quote: > Yep I'm using the real NIC. Even tried installing a second NIC and making > VM > use it. But that did'nt work because XP\Netware side must be > communicating > on both and confusing the Novell Server when the 98\Netware side > communicates. Perhaps blocking all access besides VM on the second > adapter > using Windows Firewall would solve it? uninstalling the Netware client stuff from the XP host and just let the 98 client do its thing. |
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| | Re: VPC07 and Netware Hmm thats a good question. I'm sure the customer would "prefer" to have Novell on XP side but if I could share the Mapped Directories from 98 and map them to XP, and the same for the printers; he might me satisfied with that... I hope :| Or is that even possible? "Bob Campbell" wrote: Quote: > > Does the XP host actually need to connect to/use Netware? If not, try > uninstalling the Netware client stuff from the XP host and just let the 98 > client do its thing. > > |
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| | Re: VPC07 and Netware On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:05:02 -0700, VersaLife <VersaLife@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Yep I'm using the real NIC. Even tried installing a second NIC and making VM >use it. But that did'nt work because XP\Netware side must be communicating >on both and confusing the Novell Server when the 98\Netware side >communicates. Perhaps blocking all access besides VM on the second adapter >using Windows Firewall would solve it? > Win98 client will look like two separate computers, NICs will have different MAC addresses. Make sure the host's firewall is not causing a problem with the guest connectivity. -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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| | Re: VPC07 and Netware "VersaLife" <VersaLife@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:EB81DDDA-5CB2-4327-8C1F-359CB6F07586@xxxxxx Quote: > Here's my crazy setup for a customer. He is using an older Novell server > with > 98 workstations running netware. SHORT story, he will not give up 98 for > MANY > reasons but new software that he subscribes to will not support 98 > anymore. > In comes MS VPC, installed it on new comp with xp pro, installed 98se on > vpc, > installed latest netware on xp, installed last version of netware to > support > 98. XP side interfaces with novell perfect, 98 side looked like it did but > it > is only "partially" connected. That is it can see a few folders on server > but > does not see everything, can see printers but comes back saying it does > not > have admin privileges to use them when trying to install them. Basicaly > its > not fully connected. Suspect its to do with ipx and VPC. Not sure of 98, but have xp host with 3 xp VPC all working on novell with no problems, all with full access. Single network card, each VM had a unique IP on our network. If I get a minute, I can try to install 98 and see what happens |
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| | Re: VPC07 and Netware It makes a considerable amount more sense to upgrade the PC's to XP and run the 98 systems as virtual. Since the Novell box is so old, I'm guessing its 4.11 or so? Upgrading the server isnt going to give any additional support for 98 but Novell dropped its IPX protocol after 4.x. I'm not sure if the 98 client requires IPX or not. They may have released an IP only client. Moving to an IP only network couldnt hurt. "Alan Larsson" wrote: Quote: > > "VersaLife" <VersaLife@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:EB81DDDA-5CB2-4327-8C1F-359CB6F07586@xxxxxx Quote: > > Here's my crazy setup for a customer. He is using an older Novell server > > with > > 98 workstations running netware. SHORT story, he will not give up 98 for > > MANY > > reasons but new software that he subscribes to will not support 98 > > anymore. > > In comes MS VPC, installed it on new comp with xp pro, installed 98se on > > vpc, > > installed latest netware on xp, installed last version of netware to > > support > > 98. XP side interfaces with novell perfect, 98 side looked like it did but > > it > > is only "partially" connected. That is it can see a few folders on server > > but > > does not see everything, can see printers but comes back saying it does > > not > > have admin privileges to use them when trying to install them. Basicaly > > its > > not fully connected. Suspect its to do with ipx and VPC. > > > Not sure of 98, but have xp host with 3 xp VPC all working on novell with no > problems, all with full access. > > Single network card, each VM had a unique IP on our network. > > If I get a minute, I can try to install 98 and see what happens > > > |
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