Vista - Using VM for Training Exercise

11-10-2008

Hi folks,

I want to save a Virtual Machine
settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training
exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original
sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just
Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) later.
And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.

Thanks in advance...
--
Ed

11-10-2008

"Ed" <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:04DBBED9-60A4-4C7A-9D3E-9D787CAAA9A1@xxxxxx

Quote:

> I want to save a Virtual Machine set up with Sharepoint, before I start a
> Sharepoint training exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the
> original
> Sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just copy the VM's file to
> another
> spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) later.

Yes.

Quote:

> And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.

The virtual machine's virtual hard disk(s). Select the VM in the console and
click the Settings button to find out their location...

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

11-10-2008

>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.

Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard
drive (.vhd)

You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the
training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that
will put it back to what it was before.

--
Bob Comer

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>Hi folks,
>
>I want to save a Virtual Machine
>settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training
>exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original
>sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just
>Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) later.
>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>
>Thanks in advance...

11-10-2008

Thank you Rae.

My Virtual Machine, I named Sharepointbox. Creating the
Virtual Machine, created a folder named sharepointbox with the contents:

Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\eband.MARO\My Documents\My Virtual
Machines\SHAREPOINTBOX

11/10/2008 01:31 PM <DIR> .
11/10/2008 01:31 PM <DIR> ..
11/06/2008 05:15 PM 5,277,986,304 SHAREPOINTBOX Hard Disk.vhd
11/10/2008 09:42 AM 12,788 SHAREPOINTBOX.vmc
11/10/2008 01:28 PM 270,796,288
VirtualPCUndo_SHAREPOINTBOX_0_0_0_14405211102008.vud

Do I need to back up all 3 files ( .vhd, .vmc, .vud).

And restore by overwriting all 3?

--
Ed

"Mark Rae [MVP]" wrote:

Quote:

> "Ed" <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:04DBBED9-60A4-4C7A-9D3E-9D787CAAA9A1@xxxxxx
>

Quote:

> > I want to save a Virtual Machine set up with Sharepoint, before I start a
> > Sharepoint training exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the
> > original
> > Sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just copy the VM's file to
> > another
> > spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) later.

>
> Yes.
>

Quote:

> > And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.

>
> The virtual machine's virtual hard disk(s). Select the VM in the console and
> click the Settings button to find out their location...
>
>
> --
> Mark Rae
> ASP.NET MVP
> http://www.markrae.net
>
>

11-10-2008

"Ed" <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>> > And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.

>>
>> The virtual machine's virtual hard disk(s).

>
> Thank you Rae.

You're welcome, Bill...

Quote:

> Do I need to back up all 3 files ( .vhd, .vmc, .vud).

As previously advised by Bob and me, you need to back up the virtual hard
disk (.vhd) file(s).

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

11-10-2008

I had problem with that when switching between users (in guest OS) and
clicking on X (terminating the window).
The next time I started VM there was message "Windows did not shutdown
correctly).
I had that already a few times recently.
Jack

"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:86qgh4t6sm4ua7rg6h03mraq8v9ovhqm89@xxxxxx

Quote:

> >And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.

>
> Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard
> drive (.vhd)
>
> You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the
> training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that
> will put it back to what it was before.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

Quote:

>>Hi folks,
>>
>>I want to save a Virtual Machine
>>settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training
>>exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original
>>sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just
>>Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it)
>>later.
>>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>>
>>Thanks in advance...

11-10-2008

I haven't seen that, so I don't know what might causing it.

--
Bob Comer

Quote:

>I had problem with that when switching between users (in guest OS) and
>clicking on X (terminating the window).
>The next time I started VM there was message "Windows did not shutdown
>correctly).
>I had that already a few times recently.
>Jack
>
>"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:86qgh4t6sm4ua7rg6h03mraq8v9ovhqm89@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> >And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.

>>
>> Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard
>> drive (.vhd)
>>
>> You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the
>> training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that
>> will put it back to what it was before.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>

Quote:

>>>Hi folks,
>>>
>>>I want to save a Virtual Machine
>>>settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training
>>>exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original
>>>sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just
>>>Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it)
>>>later.
>>>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance...

>

11-11-2008

Are you switching between users? My guess is not.
It looks to me noone in this group does.
My other post dated November 9th was never responded to.
Jack

"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:c5mhh4hhmqsdhg09qgbvg4bvenk19iokc8@xxxxxx

Quote:

>I haven't seen that, so I don't know what might causing it.
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
>

Quote:

>>I had problem with that when switching between users (in guest OS) and
>>clicking on X (terminating the window).
>>The next time I started VM there was message "Windows did not shutdown
>>correctly).
>>I had that already a few times recently.
>>Jack
>>
>>"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>news:86qgh4t6sm4ua7rg6h03mraq8v9ovhqm89@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>> >And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>>>
>>> Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard
>>> drive (.vhd)
>>>
>>> You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the
>>> training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that
>>> will put it back to what it was before.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bob Comer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>>I want to save a Virtual Machine
>>>>settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training
>>>>exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original
>>>>sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just
>>>>Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it)
>>>>later.
>>>>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks in advance...

>>

11-11-2008

>Are you switching between users? My guess is not.

VERY rarely, but I always either shut down the VM's OS, or do a save
state.

But I'm not so sure this isn't expected behavior, click the x to close
the window in VPC is just like puling the plug on your PC, it doesn't
shut down properly in that case, especially if there is more than one
user logged on, so it's going to boot up just like you describe.

--
Bob Comer

On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:25:31 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>Are you switching between users? My guess is not.
>It looks to me noone in this group does.
>My other post dated November 9th was never responded to.
>Jack
>
>"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:c5mhh4hhmqsdhg09qgbvg4bvenk19iokc8@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>I haven't seen that, so I don't know what might causing it.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>

Quote:

>>>I had problem with that when switching between users (in guest OS) and
>>>clicking on X (terminating the window).
>>>The next time I started VM there was message "Windows did not shutdown
>>>correctly).
>>>I had that already a few times recently.
>>>Jack
>>>
>>>"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>news:86qgh4t6sm4ua7rg6h03mraq8v9ovhqm89@xxxxxx
>>>> >And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard
>>>> drive (.vhd)
>>>>
>>>> You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the
>>>> training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that
>>>> will put it back to what it was before.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Bob Comer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>>I want to save a Virtual Machine
>>>>>settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training
>>>>>exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original
>>>>>sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just
>>>>>Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it)
>>>>>later.
>>>>>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks in advance...
>>>

>

11-11-2008

"Jack" <replyto@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#i2vjrCRJHA.1960@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Are you switching between users? My guess is not.
> It looks to me noone in this group does.
> My other post dated November 9th was never responded to.
> Jack
>
> "Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:c5mhh4hhmqsdhg09qgbvg4bvenk19iokc8@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>I haven't seen that, so I don't know what might causing it.
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>

I agree with Bob that the best idea would be to use undo disks. If you
want to start from a "clean" state you could discard changes after a
session.

You really need to shut down between sessions, not just close the vm
window.

11-10-2008	#1 (permalink)
Ed n/a posts	Using VM for Training Exercise Hi folks, I want to save a Virtual Machine settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) later. And if yes, what is the correct file to copy. Thanks in advance... -- Ed
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11-10-2008	#2 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP] n/a posts	Re: Using VM for Training Exercise "Ed" <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:04DBBED9-60A4-4C7A-9D3E-9D787CAAA9A1@xxxxxx Quote: > I want to save a Virtual Machine set up with Sharepoint, before I start a > Sharepoint training exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the > original > Sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just copy the VM's file to > another > spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) later. Yes. Quote: > And if yes, what is the correct file to copy. The virtual machine's virtual hard disk(s). Select the VM in the console and click the Settings button to find out their location... -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net
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11-10-2008	#3 (permalink)
Robert Comer n/a posts	Re: Using VM for Training Exercise >And if yes, what is the correct file to copy. Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard drive (.vhd) You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that will put it back to what it was before. -- Bob Comer On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Hi folks, > >I want to save a Virtual Machine >settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training >exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original >sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just >Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) later. >And if yes, what is the correct file to copy. > >Thanks in advance...
My System Specs

11-10-2008	#4 (permalink)
Ed n/a posts	Re: Using VM for Training Exercise Thank you Rae. My Virtual Machine, I named Sharepointbox. Creating the Virtual Machine, created a folder named sharepointbox with the contents: Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\eband.MARO\My Documents\My Virtual Machines\SHAREPOINTBOX 11/10/2008 01:31 PM <DIR> . 11/10/2008 01:31 PM <DIR> .. 11/06/2008 05:15 PM 5,277,986,304 SHAREPOINTBOX Hard Disk.vhd 11/10/2008 09:42 AM 12,788 SHAREPOINTBOX.vmc 11/10/2008 01:28 PM 270,796,288 VirtualPCUndo_SHAREPOINTBOX_0_0_0_14405211102008.vud Do I need to back up all 3 files ( .vhd, .vmc, .vud). And restore by overwriting all 3? -- Ed "Mark Rae [MVP]" wrote: Quote: > "Ed" <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:04DBBED9-60A4-4C7A-9D3E-9D787CAAA9A1@xxxxxx > Quote: > > I want to save a Virtual Machine set up with Sharepoint, before I start a > > Sharepoint training exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the > > original > > Sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just copy the VM's file to > > another > > spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) later. > > Yes. > Quote: > > And if yes, what is the correct file to copy. > > The virtual machine's virtual hard disk(s). Select the VM in the console and > click the Settings button to find out their location... > > > -- > Mark Rae > ASP.NET MVP > http://www.markrae.net > >
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11-10-2008	#5 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP] n/a posts	Re: Using VM for Training Exercise "Ed" <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:7360B9DC-16D9-48E8-8D6A-DC243101F4D8@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: Quote: >> > And if yes, what is the correct file to copy. >> >> The virtual machine's virtual hard disk(s). > > Thank you Rae. You're welcome, Bill... Quote: > Do I need to back up all 3 files ( .vhd, .vmc, .vud). As previously advised by Bob and me, you need to back up the virtual hard disk (.vhd) file(s). -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net
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11-10-2008	#6 (permalink)
Jack n/a posts	Re: Using VM for Training Exercise I had problem with that when switching between users (in guest OS) and clicking on X (terminating the window). The next time I started VM there was message "Windows did not shutdown correctly). I had that already a few times recently. Jack "Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:86qgh4t6sm4ua7rg6h03mraq8v9ovhqm89@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: > >And if yes, what is the correct file to copy. > > Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard > drive (.vhd) > > You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the > training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that > will put it back to what it was before. > > -- > Bob Comer > > > > On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>Hi folks, >> >>I want to save a Virtual Machine >>settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training >>exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original >>sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just >>Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) >>later. >>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy. >> >>Thanks in advance...
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11-10-2008	#7 (permalink)
Robert Comer n/a posts	Re: Using VM for Training Exercise I haven't seen that, so I don't know what might causing it. -- Bob Comer Quote: >I had problem with that when switching between users (in guest OS) and >clicking on X (terminating the window). >The next time I started VM there was message "Windows did not shutdown >correctly). >I had that already a few times recently. >Jack > >"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message >news:86qgh4t6sm4ua7rg6h03mraq8v9ovhqm89@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> >And if yes, what is the correct file to copy. >> >> Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard >> drive (.vhd) >> >> You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the >> training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that >> will put it back to what it was before. >> >> -- >> Bob Comer >> >> >> >> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote: >> Quote: >>>Hi folks, >>> >>>I want to save a Virtual Machine >>>settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training >>>exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original >>>sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just >>>Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) >>>later. >>>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy. >>> >>>Thanks in advance... >
My System Specs

11-11-2008	#8 (permalink)
Jack n/a posts	Re: Using VM for Training Exercise Are you switching between users? My guess is not. It looks to me noone in this group does. My other post dated November 9th was never responded to. Jack "Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:c5mhh4hhmqsdhg09qgbvg4bvenk19iokc8@xxxxxx Quote: >I haven't seen that, so I don't know what might causing it. > > -- > Bob Comer > > > Quote: >>I had problem with that when switching between users (in guest OS) and >>clicking on X (terminating the window). >>The next time I started VM there was message "Windows did not shutdown >>correctly). >>I had that already a few times recently. >>Jack >> >>"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>news:86qgh4t6sm4ua7rg6h03mraq8v9ovhqm89@xxxxxx Quote: >>> >And if yes, what is the correct file to copy. >>> >>> Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard >>> drive (.vhd) >>> >>> You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the >>> training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that >>> will put it back to what it was before. >>> >>> -- >>> Bob Comer >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>>Hi folks, >>>> >>>>I want to save a Virtual Machine >>>>settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training >>>>exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original >>>>sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just >>>>Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) >>>>later. >>>>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy. >>>> >>>>Thanks in advance... >>
My System Specs

11-11-2008	#9 (permalink)
Robert Comer n/a posts	Re: Using VM for Training Exercise >Are you switching between users? My guess is not. VERY rarely, but I always either shut down the VM's OS, or do a save state. But I'm not so sure this isn't expected behavior, click the x to close the window in VPC is just like puling the plug on your PC, it doesn't shut down properly in that case, especially if there is more than one user logged on, so it's going to boot up just like you describe. -- Bob Comer On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:25:31 -0500, "Jack" <replyto@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Are you switching between users? My guess is not. >It looks to me noone in this group does. >My other post dated November 9th was never responded to. >Jack > >"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message >news:c5mhh4hhmqsdhg09qgbvg4bvenk19iokc8@xxxxxx Quote: >>I haven't seen that, so I don't know what might causing it. >> >> -- >> Bob Comer >> >> >> Quote: >>>I had problem with that when switching between users (in guest OS) and >>>clicking on X (terminating the window). >>>The next time I started VM there was message "Windows did not shutdown >>>correctly). >>>I had that already a few times recently. >>>Jack >>> >>>"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>news:86qgh4t6sm4ua7rg6h03mraq8v9ovhqm89@xxxxxx >>>> >And if yes, what is the correct file to copy. >>>> >>>> Yes, you can do that, and the correct file to copy is the virtual hard >>>> drive (.vhd) >>>> >>>> You could also just enable undo disks, and after you finish the >>>> training exercise, just shut down the VM and discard changes, that >>>> will put it back to what it was before. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bob Comer >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:02 -0800, Ed <abcde@xxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi folks, >>>>> >>>>>I want to save a Virtual Machine >>>>>settup with Sharepoint, before I start a sharepoint training >>>>>exercise. I want to be able to revert back to the original >>>>>sharepoint VM before the training. Can I just >>>>>Copy the VM's file to another spot, and copy it back (overwrite it) >>>>>later. >>>>>And if yes, what is the correct file to copy. >>>>> >>>>>Thanks in advance... >>> >
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11-11-2008	#10 (permalink)
Bill Grant n/a posts	Re: Using VM for Training Exercise "Jack" <replyto@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#i2vjrCRJHA.1960@xxxxxx Quote: > Are you switching between users? My guess is not. > It looks to me noone in this group does. > My other post dated November 9th was never responded to. > Jack > > "Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:c5mhh4hhmqsdhg09qgbvg4bvenk19iokc8@xxxxxx Quote: >>I haven't seen that, so I don't know what might causing it. >> >> -- >> Bob Comer >> >> I agree with Bob that the best idea would be to use undo disks. If you want to start from a "clean" state you could discard changes after a session. You really need to shut down between sessions, not just close the vm window.
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