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Old 11-14-2008   #1 (permalink)
Mark desperate and needy!!!!


 
 

Can't print in 'XP' running in 'Virtual PC' on a 'Vista Business O

Hi all,

I NEED HELP! (not me personally, but if things carry on you never know)...

Anyway, I have a Vista Business OS which i installed Virtual PC 2007. Into
this i installed XP Media Centre 2003 (all systems have current service
packs).

The Problem:
I have a trusty A3 Xerox Docuprint C20 inkjet printer, BUT vista does not
recognise the drivers (ps. there are no vista drivers availible).
So i have installed the driver into XP "which is running in Virtual PC" and
all seems to be O.K.

Here's the problem! I can not get any documents to print. In the Virtual PC
console the setting for LPT1 is set to 'physical' and the address matches
that of the host OS.

Is there a Virtual PC GURU out there who could help? before i go insane with
microsoft )

many thanks in advance...Mark.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-14-2008   #2 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: Can't print in 'XP' running in 'Virtual PC' on a 'Vista Business O

If you aren't using the parallel port on the host OS, you can try
doing a "NET STOP SPOOLER" from an elevated command prompt -- then try
printing from the VM. (but it'll stop all printing from the host OS,
so do a "NET START SPOOLER" from an elevated command prompt after
you're done printing.)

--
Bob Comer


On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:36:00 -0800, Mark "desperate and needy"!!!!
<Mark "desperate and needy"!!!!@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
Quote:

>Hi all,
>
>I NEED HELP! (not me personally, but if things carry on you never know)...
>
>Anyway, I have a Vista Business OS which i installed Virtual PC 2007. Into
>this i installed XP Media Centre 2003 (all systems have current service
>packs).
>
>The Problem:
>I have a trusty A3 Xerox Docuprint C20 inkjet printer, BUT vista does not
>recognise the drivers (ps. there are no vista drivers availible).
>So i have installed the driver into XP "which is running in Virtual PC" and
>all seems to be O.K.
>
>Here's the problem! I can not get any documents to print. In the Virtual PC
>console the setting for LPT1 is set to 'physical' and the address matches
>that of the host OS.
>
>Is there a Virtual PC GURU out there who could help? before i go insane with
>microsoft )
>
>many thanks in advance...Mark.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-14-2008   #3 (permalink)
Mark desperate and needy!!!!


 
 

Re: Can't print in 'XP' running in 'Virtual PC' on a 'Vista Busine

Hi Robert,

Many thanks for you very, very quick reply. I've no idea what or where to
find the Net Stop Spooler but i'll see what i can do and let you know how i
get on.

Thanks,
Mark.
--
A self confessed abuser of windows who needs it working now. An effect of
the cause & not the symptom, pretty much like us all NON GURU''s to whom i
have the uttmost respect & admiration.


"Robert Comer" wrote:
Quote:

> If you aren't using the parallel port on the host OS, you can try
> doing a "NET STOP SPOOLER" from an elevated command prompt -- then try
> printing from the VM. (but it'll stop all printing from the host OS,
> so do a "NET START SPOOLER" from an elevated command prompt after
> you're done printing.)
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
> On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:36:00 -0800, Mark "desperate and needy"!!!!
> <Mark "desperate and needy"!!!!@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >Hi all,
> >
> >I NEED HELP! (not me personally, but if things carry on you never know)...
> >
> >Anyway, I have a Vista Business OS which i installed Virtual PC 2007. Into
> >this i installed XP Media Centre 2003 (all systems have current service
> >packs).
> >
> >The Problem:
> >I have a trusty A3 Xerox Docuprint C20 inkjet printer, BUT vista does not
> >recognise the drivers (ps. there are no vista drivers availible).
> >So i have installed the driver into XP "which is running in Virtual PC" and
> >all seems to be O.K.
> >
> >Here's the problem! I can not get any documents to print. In the Virtual PC
> >console the setting for LPT1 is set to 'physical' and the address matches
> >that of the host OS.
> >
> >Is there a Virtual PC GURU out there who could help? before i go insane with
> >microsoft )
> >
> >many thanks in advance...Mark.
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-14-2008   #4 (permalink)
Mark desperate and needy!!!!


 
 

Re: Can't print in 'XP' running in 'Virtual PC' on a 'Vista Busine

Hi Robert,

UPDATE: I tried "Net Stop Spooler" from the command line but recieved an
error message "System Error 4 occured", "Access Denied".

So i tried it from within the VM. The command worked BUT it also removed my
printer from my printers and faxes and said i needed to restart spooler
before i could print.

ERM...it seems i'm in a catch 22 situation, but then again what do i know!

If you do have any further advice i really would appreciate it.

Many thanks,
Mark.
--
A self confessed abuser of windows who needs it working now. An effect of
the cause & not the symptom, pretty much like us all NON GURU''''s to whom i
have the uttmost respect & admiration.


"Mark "desperate and needy"!!!!" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> Many thanks for you very, very quick reply. I've no idea what or where to
> find the Net Stop Spooler but i'll see what i can do and let you know how i
> get on.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark.
> --
> A self confessed abuser of windows who needs it working now. An effect of
> the cause & not the symptom, pretty much like us all NON GURU''s to whom i
> have the uttmost respect & admiration.
>
>
> "Robert Comer" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > If you aren't using the parallel port on the host OS, you can try
> > doing a "NET STOP SPOOLER" from an elevated command prompt -- then try
> > printing from the VM. (but it'll stop all printing from the host OS,
> > so do a "NET START SPOOLER" from an elevated command prompt after
> > you're done printing.)
> >
> > --
> > Bob Comer
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:36:00 -0800, Mark "desperate and needy"!!!!
> > <Mark "desperate and needy"!!!!@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
Quote:

> > >Hi all,
> > >
> > >I NEED HELP! (not me personally, but if things carry on you never know)...
> > >
> > >Anyway, I have a Vista Business OS which i installed Virtual PC 2007. Into
> > >this i installed XP Media Centre 2003 (all systems have current service
> > >packs).
> > >
> > >The Problem:
> > >I have a trusty A3 Xerox Docuprint C20 inkjet printer, BUT vista does not
> > >recognise the drivers (ps. there are no vista drivers availible).
> > >So i have installed the driver into XP "which is running in Virtual PC" and
> > >all seems to be O.K.
> > >
> > >Here's the problem! I can not get any documents to print. In the Virtual PC
> > >console the setting for LPT1 is set to 'physical' and the address matches
> > >that of the host OS.
> > >
> > >Is there a Virtual PC GURU out there who could help? before i go insane with
> > >microsoft )
> > >
> > >many thanks in advance...Mark.
> >
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-14-2008   #5 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: Can't print in 'XP' running in 'Virtual PC' on a 'Vista Busine

Hi Mark,

Sorry it took so long to get back to you, one of my users had a
computer problem.
Quote:

>UPDATE: I tried "Net Stop Spooler" from the command line but recieved an
>error message "System Error 4 occured", "Access Denied".
You need to run it from an elevated command prompt. Start menu -> All
programs -> Accessories, the right mouse click on "Command Prompt",
and select "Run as Administrator". (Then just okay the UAC prompt.)

Then type in NET STOP SPOOLER
Quote:

>So i tried it from within the VM. The command worked BUT it also removed my
>printer from my printers and faxes and said i needed to restart spooler
>before i could print.
You definitely need to do it on the host.
Quote:

>ERM...it seems i'm in a catch 22 situation, but then again what do i know!
Sounds like you know a lot to me!

--
Bob Comer



On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:31:01 -0800, Mark "desperate and needy"!!!!
<Markdesperateandneedy@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Hi Robert,
>
>UPDATE: I tried "Net Stop Spooler" from the command line but recieved an
>error message "System Error 4 occured", "Access Denied".
>
>So i tried it from within the VM. The command worked BUT it also removed my
>printer from my printers and faxes and said i needed to restart spooler
>before i could print.
>
>ERM...it seems i'm in a catch 22 situation, but then again what do i know!
>
>If you do have any further advice i really would appreciate it.
>
>Many thanks,
>Mark.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-14-2008   #6 (permalink)
Bo Berglund


 
 

Re: Can't print in 'XP' running in 'Virtual PC' on a 'Vista Busine

On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:31:01 -0800, Mark "desperate and needy"!!!!
<Markdesperateandneedy@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Hi Robert,
>
>UPDATE: I tried "Net Stop Spooler" from the command line but recieved an
>error message "System Error 4 occured", "Access Denied".
You need to run elevated in order to do this.
I would use the Services control panel applet instead and locate Print
Spooler there and then stop it. Most probably Vista will pop up the
UAC message asking permission then.
Quote:

>So i tried it from within the VM. The command worked BUT it also removed my
>printer from my printers and faxes and said i needed to restart spooler
>before i could print.
Why would you want to do that????
It will have no positive effect whatever.

The stop of the spooler on the *host* is because the spooler service
is using the printer port and while it is doing so on the host VPC2007
cannot get hold of it so it can transfer control of the LPT port over
to the guest.

The spooler may not be the only software gripping for the LPT port on
the host though. Things like software protection dongle drivers may
well also hook into the port and blocking its use from the VPC guest.

Bottom line:
You need to shut down *all* software on the *host* that uses the
printer port in order for VPC2007 to be able to transfer control to
the VPC guest.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-15-2008   #7 (permalink)
jmanderson


 
 

RE: Can't print in 'XP' running in 'Virtual PC' on a 'Vista Business O

I am interested in using XP in a VPC under Vista so that an HP Officejet 6110
All-in-One printer will work. However, have heard that virtual machines
cannot access hardware. I guess that is not true, given all the discussion
on this site.

On the other hand, the discussion seems confined to a parallel port. I want
to use the USB port. I am hoping that this does not cause yet a new set of
problems. Do I still have to do the stop spooler command?
--
A Jewish Carpenter''s marginally faithful servant.


"Mark "desperate and needy"!!!!" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi all,
>
> I NEED HELP! (not me personally, but if things carry on you never know)...
>
> Anyway, I have a Vista Business OS which i installed Virtual PC 2007. Into
> this i installed XP Media Centre 2003 (all systems have current service
> packs).
>
> The Problem:
> I have a trusty A3 Xerox Docuprint C20 inkjet printer, BUT vista does not
> recognise the drivers (ps. there are no vista drivers availible).
> So i have installed the driver into XP "which is running in Virtual PC" and
> all seems to be O.K.
>
> Here's the problem! I can not get any documents to print. In the Virtual PC
> console the setting for LPT1 is set to 'physical' and the address matches
> that of the host OS.
>
> Is there a Virtual PC GURU out there who could help? before i go insane with
> microsoft )
>
> many thanks in advance...Mark.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-15-2008   #8 (permalink)
Bo Berglund


 
 

Re: Can't print in 'XP' running in 'Virtual PC' on a 'Vista Business O

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:29:01 -0800, jmanderson <jake99999@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

>I am interested in using XP in a VPC under Vista so that an HP Officejet 6110
>All-in-One printer will work. However, have heard that virtual machines
>cannot access hardware. I guess that is not true, given all the discussion
>on this site.
>
>On the other hand, the discussion seems confined to a parallel port. I want
>to use the USB port. I am hoping that this does not cause yet a new set of
>problems. Do I still have to do the stop spooler command?
You cannot use USB at all inside a VPC2007 guest!
The emulated hardware does *not* include any USB hubs or the like and
therefore what you want is impossible to accomplish. :-(


You have to use VMWare instead, they can transfer USB devices from the
host to the guest. WorkStation is the comparable product to VPC2007,
but it is not a free software.

Player is the VMWare free offer, but with that you cannot create a new
guest from scratch, it is primarily intended for "playing" what they
call "virtual appliances". These are readymade virtual machines (most
often Linux variations), which you can download and start up in
Player.
However, I believe Player can "play" a VPC2007 virtual machine, so it
might be possible to first create the guest in VPC2007, then use it in
VMWare Player. Don't know how it is converted, though (if it
automatically adds the USB part or not).

Finally, I think there are websites out there where you can create the
file set needed for a Player virtual machine. If you go that route
then you can install for example XP after you start it up in Player.
Have not tried this though, since I have Workstation myself and then
Player is not installable.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-15-2008   #9 (permalink)
Bob Campbell


 
 

Re: Can't print in 'XP' running in 'Virtual PC' on a 'Vista Business O

"jmanderson" <jake99999@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:8CE3CC33-EFD4-4E85-ABCD-175A2C580192@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I am interested in using XP in a VPC under Vista so that an HP Officejet
>6110
> All-in-One printer will work. However, have heard that virtual machines
> cannot access hardware. I guess that is not true, given all the
> discussion
> on this site.
Vista has a built in driver for "HP Officejet 6100 series". Does this
driver not work with your printer?

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-10-2008   #10 (permalink)
Mark desperate and needy!!!!


 
 

Re: Can't print in 'XP' running in 'Virtual PC' on a 'Vista Busine

I'd like to thank everyone for thier kind help, unfortunately i haven't had
much luck and have decided to create a multi drive multi boot system.

This has now presented me with a minor issue getting the OS systems to be
seen, but i will raise this in a new thread.

Again, thank you all.
--
A self confessed abuser of windows who needs it working now. An effect of
the cause & not the symptom, pretty much like us all NON GURU''''s to whom i
have the uttmost respect & admiration.


"Bob Campbell" wrote:
Quote:

> "jmanderson" <jake99999@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:8CE3CC33-EFD4-4E85-ABCD-175A2C580192@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >I am interested in using XP in a VPC under Vista so that an HP Officejet
> >6110
> > All-in-One printer will work. However, have heard that virtual machines
> > cannot access hardware. I guess that is not true, given all the
> > discussion
> > on this site.
>
> Vista has a built in driver for "HP Officejet 6100 series". Does this
> driver not work with your printer?
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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