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Old 11-16-2008   #1 (permalink)
Jerry Langley III


 
 

Performance on Laptop

I bought an HP Pavilion dv7 1175nr pretty much for the sole purpose of
setting up a demo SharePoint server on a VPC I can show to potential clients.
Unfortunately the performance is absolutely hideous.
I read a comment from someone that this is to be expected with the exception
of an XPS laptop.
Is this a reasonable assessment and why would an XPS laptop be better at
running VPC?


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Old 11-16-2008   #2 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: Performance on Laptop

Performance should okay on a laptop, though there are some limitations
like disk speed and power management that get in the way.

Make sure you have the additions installed in the VM.

And do this if performance is still slow:
http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy...n-laptops.aspx

--
Bob Comer





On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:14:01 -0800, Jerry Langley III
<JerryLangleyIII@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>I bought an HP Pavilion dv7 1175nr pretty much for the sole purpose of
>setting up a demo SharePoint server on a VPC I can show to potential clients.
>Unfortunately the performance is absolutely hideous.
>I read a comment from someone that this is to be expected with the exception
>of an XPS laptop.
>Is this a reasonable assessment and why would an XPS laptop be better at
>running VPC?
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Old 11-16-2008   #3 (permalink)
Tony Toews [MVP]


 
 

Re: Performance on Laptop

Jerry Langley III <JerryLangleyIII@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>I bought an HP Pavilion dv7 1175nr pretty much for the sole purpose of
>setting up a demo SharePoint server on a VPC I can show to potential clients.
>Unfortunately the performance is absolutely hideous.
>I read a comment from someone that this is to be expected with the exception
>of an XPS laptop.
What is an XPS laptop? A different brand? What's the difference
between a DV7 etc and an XPS.

How much RAM in the current laptop and how much is setup for the guest
OS? That's the first thing I'd be looking at. You'd likely need 2
Gb and 3 Gb would be better especially given how cheap RAM is these
days.

Tony
--
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Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
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Old 11-16-2008   #4 (permalink)
Jerry Langley III


 
 

Re: Performance on Laptop

Tony,

I had 4GB of ram on the laptop and dedicated 1GB to the VPC. I wish I had a
link to the post I read about the XPS Laptop. It appears to be a Dell brand.
I wouldn't know why the performance would be any different, but the sited
poster said that it was.
Anyway I have returned the offending machine to Best Buy. If I can't get my
work done with it then it is just an expensive paperweight.

"Tony Toews [MVP]" wrote:
Quote:

> Jerry Langley III <JerryLangleyIII@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >I bought an HP Pavilion dv7 1175nr pretty much for the sole purpose of
> >setting up a demo SharePoint server on a VPC I can show to potential clients.
> >Unfortunately the performance is absolutely hideous.
> >I read a comment from someone that this is to be expected with the exception
> >of an XPS laptop.
>
> What is an XPS laptop? A different brand? What's the difference
> between a DV7 etc and an XPS.
>
> How much RAM in the current laptop and how much is setup for the guest
> OS? That's the first thing I'd be looking at. You'd likely need 2
> Gb and 3 Gb would be better especially given how cheap RAM is these
> days.
>
> Tony
> --
> Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
> Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
> read the entire thread of messages.
> Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at
> http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
> Tony's Microsoft Access Blog - http://msmvps.com/blogs/access/
>
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Old 11-16-2008   #5 (permalink)
Bo Berglund


 
 

Re: Performance on Laptop

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:57:34 -0700, "Tony Toews [MVP]"
<ttoews@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Jerry Langley III <JerryLangleyIII@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

>>I bought an HP Pavilion dv7 1175nr pretty much for the sole purpose of
>>setting up a demo SharePoint server on a VPC I can show to potential clients.
>>Unfortunately the performance is absolutely hideous.
>>I read a comment from someone that this is to be expected with the exception
>>of an XPS laptop.
>
>What is an XPS laptop? A different brand? What's the difference
>between a DV7 etc and an XPS.
ASAIK XPS is a range of *stationary* Dell PC:s.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)
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Old 11-16-2008   #6 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: Performance on Laptop

>ASAIK XPS is a range of *stationary* Dell PC:s.

There's actually a laptop line with the XPS logo too -- they're
supposed to be performance oriented, and they cost more.

--
Bob Comer


On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:03:17 +0100, Bo Berglund <boberglund@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

>On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:57:34 -0700, "Tony Toews [MVP]"
><ttoews@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

>>Jerry Langley III <JerryLangleyIII@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>
Quote:

>>>I bought an HP Pavilion dv7 1175nr pretty much for the sole purpose of
>>>setting up a demo SharePoint server on a VPC I can show to potential clients.
>>>Unfortunately the performance is absolutely hideous.
>>>I read a comment from someone that this is to be expected with the exception
>>>of an XPS laptop.
>>
>>What is an XPS laptop? A different brand? What's the difference
>>between a DV7 etc and an XPS.
>
>ASAIK XPS is a range of *stationary* Dell PC:s.
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Old 11-17-2008   #7 (permalink)
Steve Jain [MVP]


 
 

Re: Performance on Laptop

On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:53:00 -0800, Jerry Langley III
<JerryLangleyIII@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Tony,
>
>I had 4GB of ram on the laptop and dedicated 1GB to the VPC. I wish I had a
>link to the post I read about the XPS Laptop. It appears to be a Dell brand.
>I wouldn't know why the performance would be any different, but the sited
>poster said that it was.
>Anyway I have returned the offending machine to Best Buy. If I can't get my
>work done with it then it is just an expensive paperweight.
>
You can use more than an XPS, I've used VPC since 2001, before there
was even an XPS line of laptops.

I've run VPC on 1.0GHz P3 and 1.8GHz P4M laptops back when I worked
for Connectix demoing VPC. External drives make the difference.

What you need to consider:
1. CPU--power savings, speedstep, et.al. This will be a huge impace
on performance if power savings kicks in.
2. Disk--you want at least a 7200rpm disk if you're going to try and
run a VM on the same hard drive as the host. Ideally, you get an
external USB/Firewire/eSATA drive and run your VMs off that . Disk
contention on 4200 and 5400 rpms with multiple OSes will cause a
significant perf it.

I've used a Toshiba M400 core duo with success for years also. Best
improvement is to get the fastest HD you can.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
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