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Old 12-05-2008   #1 (permalink)
Kajbre


 
 

Setup Virtual PC 2007

I'm planning to use MS VirtualPC 2007 on new hardware, based on Intel E8400
64 bit processor, with 8 GB RAM.

I've never used MS virtual op syses, so I have some questions:

1. I intend to use XP Pro x64 as Host Op sys - I assume that's OK?
2. I believe it's sensible to install Virtual PC 2005 x64 version after
that - OK?

The I assume that one of the basic principals is that a host op sys can be
either 32 or 64 bit, but only 32 bit guest op syses are supporeted?

Then I'll need Vista from time to time. I wonder if any Vista Home version
is currently supported, or do I have to install some Vista Business version
as guest opsys?

In addition, still, I have understood Linux distros are not officially
supported by Virtual PC 2007. I wonder, if some one has any experience of
that?

Kaj B.



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Old 12-05-2008   #2 (permalink)
Steve Jain [MVP]


 
 

Re: Setup Virtual PC 2007

On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:45:56 +0200, "Kajbre" <someone@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

>I'm planning to use MS VirtualPC 2007 on new hardware, based on Intel E8400
>64 bit processor, with 8 GB RAM.
>
>I've never used MS virtual op syses, so I have some questions:
>
>1. I intend to use XP Pro x64 as Host Op sys - I assume that's OK?
Yes.
Quote:

>2. I believe it's sensible to install Virtual PC 2005 x64 version after
>that - OK?
Yes, download the x64 version of VPC 2007
Quote:

>
>The I assume that one of the basic principals is that a host op sys can be
>either 32 or 64 bit, but only 32 bit guest op syses are supporeted?
Yes, with VPC you can only run 32bit guest OSes.
Quote:

>
>Then I'll need Vista from time to time. I wonder if any Vista Home version
>is currently supported, or do I have to install some Vista Business version
>as guest opsys?
Home is not supported by MS tech support, but you can still install it
and it will work fine. You just can't call MS for technical support
help.
Quote:

>
>In addition, still, I have understood Linux distros are not officially
>supported by Virtual PC 2007. I wonder, if some one has any experience of
>that?
>
>Kaj B.
>
Linux isn't supported by MS, but you can still install and use it just
fine. There are no VM Additions for Linux, so you won't have the same
integration features as a Windows VM. Iif you're going to be doing a
lot of Linux, you should look into VirtualBox or VM Ware Workstation.
These have offical support for Linux and can run together on the same
system along with VPC.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-05-2008   #3 (permalink)
Kajbre


 
 

Re: Setup Virtual PC 2007

"Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
news:q0cjj4tol3p43kgsjnec1aca9efp9847iu@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 00:45:56 +0200, "Kajbre" <someone@xxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
Quote:

>>I'm planning to use MS VirtualPC 2007 on new hardware, based on Intel
>>E8400
>>64 bit processor, with 8 GB RAM.
>>
>>I've never used MS virtual op syses, so I have some questions:
>>
>>1. I intend to use XP Pro x64 as Host Op sys - I assume that's OK?
>
> Yes.
>
Quote:

>>2. I believe it's sensible to install Virtual PC 2005 x64 version after
>>that - OK?
>
> Yes, download the x64 version of VPC 2007
>
Quote:

>>
>>The I assume that one of the basic principals is that a host op sys can be
>>either 32 or 64 bit, but only 32 bit guest op syses are supporeted?
>
> Yes, with VPC you can only run 32bit guest OSes.
>
Quote:

>>
>>Then I'll need Vista from time to time. I wonder if any Vista Home
>>version
>>is currently supported, or do I have to install some Vista Business
>>version
>>as guest opsys?
>
> Home is not supported by MS tech support, but you can still install it
> and it will work fine. You just can't call MS for technical support
> help.
>
Quote:

>>
>>In addition, still, I have understood Linux distros are not officially
>>supported by Virtual PC 2007. I wonder, if some one has any experience of
>>that?
>>
>>Kaj B.
>>
>
> Linux isn't supported by MS, but you can still install and use it just
> fine. There are no VM Additions for Linux, so you won't have the same
> integration features as a Windows VM. Iif you're going to be doing a
> lot of Linux, you should look into VirtualBox or VM Ware Workstation.
> These have offical support for Linux and can run together on the same
> system along with VPC.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
Quote:
Quote:

>>>
Thanks!

Besides the initial setup of VM environment I'm also wondering how to
install Visual Studio 2008 in virtual environment.
Which one would make more sense:
- Install VS 2008 on the x64 XP Pro (which will be the host op sys)
- Install it on XP Pro 32-bit guest VM

I should start developing an application for .NET environment, and the
application should be able to interface with TWAIN based scanners. Will this
cause problems when using virtual machines?

KB



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-05-2008   #4 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP]


 
 

Re: Setup Virtual PC 2007

"Kajbre" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:cJi_k.101365$_03.45009@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Besides the initial setup of VM environment I'm also wondering how to
> install Visual Studio 2008 in virtual environment.
> Which one would make more sense:
> - Install VS 2008 on the x64 XP Pro (which will be the host op sys)
> - Install it on XP Pro 32-bit guest VM
Either. Visual Studio.NET 2008, just like any other piece of software, will
have not the slightest notion that it's being and installed and then
subsequently running in a virtual machine - it has absolutely no need to
know this, as it makes no difference whatsoever... I mainly run Visual
Studio.NET 2008 on my development machine, but also have it on several VMs
mainly for support of legacy systems.
Quote:

> I should start developing an application for .NET environment, and the
> application should be able to interface with TWAIN based scanners. Will
> this cause problems when using virtual machines?
Ah... If the scanner has a serial interface, you should have no problem as
serial ports are emulated in virtual machines. However, if the scanner has a
USB interface, a VPC VM won't be able to work with it, as USB devices are
not supported at all. The only exceptions to this are USB devices which can
be emulated. E.g. USB mice and keyboards attached to the host can be used by
a guest because they are emulated as PS/2 devices, and USB storage devices
(e.g. memory sticks, external hard drives etc) can be used through standard
networking protocols. Since there's no emulation for scanner devices,
however, you're almost certainly out of luck with this type of device.
Therefore, you'll need to either run Visual Studio.NET 2008 on the host, or
use another type of virtualisation product e.g. VMWare which supports USB
devices natively...


--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-06-2008   #5 (permalink)
Kajbre


 
 

Re: Setup Virtual PC 2007


"Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> "Kajbre" <someone@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:cJi_k.101365$_03.45009@xxxxxx
>
> Ah... If the scanner has a serial interface, you should have no problem as
> serial ports are emulated in virtual machines. However, if the scanner has
> a USB interface, a VPC VM won't be able to work with it, as USB devices
> are not supported at all. The only exceptions to this are USB devices
> which can be emulated. E.g. USB mice and keyboards attached to the host
> can be used by a guest because they are emulated as PS/2 devices, and USB
> storage devices (e.g. memory sticks, external hard drives etc) can be used
> through standard networking protocols. Since there's no emulation for
> scanner devices, however, you're almost certainly out of luck with this
> type of device. Therefore, you'll need to either run Visual Studio.NET
> 2008 on the host, or use another type of virtualisation product e.g.
> VMWare which supports USB devices natively...
>
Yeah, I found a good comparison table for different virtual machine systens.
It also shows that USB support for guest os IS supported in VMWare but NOT
in VPC 2007, so i may have to choose VMWare for this reason.

But If I choose VNWare, so do I lose some functions, e.g concerning
interface between different Windows virtual machines, like using MS SQL
Server (or other) database on one VM from different VMs?

Kaj B.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
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