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File Size

  1. #1


    Tom Guest

    File Size

    I have virtualPC installed on a partition on my hard drive. Everything works
    fine, however my c drive (60gb) is almost full. When I explore the c drive I
    find a file called New Virtual Machine that is 27 gb. Is this file just for
    adding another virtualPC? Can I remove it to free up space? I am also
    thinking about compressing it and storing it on an external drive. Thanks
    for any help!! Host system is vista home.

    Tom




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  2. #2


    Mark Rae [MVP] Guest

    Re: File Size

    "Tom" <tnonta@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:%2314DfzHWJHA.5496@xxxxxx

    > I have VirtualPC installed on a partition on my hard drive. Everything
    > works fine, however my C drive (60GB) is almost full. When I explore the C
    > drive I find a file called New Virtual Machine that is 27GB. Is this file
    > just for adding another virtual machine? Can I remove it to free up space?
    It sounds like it might be the remnants of another virtual machine that
    you're no longer using...

    Do this:

    1) Close down all virtual machines.

    2) In the VPC console, inspect each virtual machine's configuration and see
    which one is pointing to this hard disk.

    3) If none of your virtual machines is using this hard disk, rename it and
    then start up each of your virtual machines one by one. If they all start up
    and run OK, you can safely delete the file.

    4) If one of your virtual machines is using this hard disk, then you will
    need to decide whether you still need that virtual machine or not...

    > Host system is vista home.
    Just a reminder that VPC 2007 isn't officially supported by Microsoft on
    Vista Home editions, though it does work...


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  3. #3


    Tom Guest

    Re: File Size

    I checked and this is the hard drive for the virtual machine that I am
    using. If I installed virtual machine on a separate partition, how did the
    virtual machine hard drive get on my c drive with my vista os. My virtual
    machine is running xp Pro. It seems like 27 gb is a lot of space for the
    o.s. and a few programs to do medical transcription. I installed virtual
    machine and purchased xp pro because the transcription programs were not
    compatible with vista.

    Tom
    "Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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    > "Tom" <tnonta@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:%2314DfzHWJHA.5496@xxxxxx
    >

    >> I have VirtualPC installed on a partition on my hard drive. Everything
    >> works fine, however my C drive (60GB) is almost full. When I explore the
    >> C drive I find a file called New Virtual Machine that is 27GB. Is this
    >> file just for adding another virtual machine? Can I remove it to free up
    >> space?
    >
    > It sounds like it might be the remnants of another virtual machine that
    > you're no longer using...
    >
    > Do this:
    >
    > 1) Close down all virtual machines.
    >
    > 2) In the VPC console, inspect each virtual machine's configuration and
    > see which one is pointing to this hard disk.
    >
    > 3) If none of your virtual machines is using this hard disk, rename it and
    > then start up each of your virtual machines one by one. If they all start
    > up and run OK, you can safely delete the file.
    >
    > 4) If one of your virtual machines is using this hard disk, then you will
    > need to decide whether you still need that virtual machine or not...
    >

    >> Host system is vista home.
    >
    > Just a reminder that VPC 2007 isn't officially supported by Microsoft on
    > Vista Home editions, though it does work...
    >
    >
    > --
    > Mark Rae
    > ASP.NET MVP
    > http://www.markrae.net


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  4. #4


    Mark Rae [MVP] Guest

    Re: File Size

    "Tom" <tnonta@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:eOVjejMWJHA.4928@xxxxxx

    >> 1) Close down all virtual machines.
    >>
    >> 2) In the VPC console, inspect each virtual machine's configuration and
    >> see which one is pointing to this hard disk.
    >>
    >> 3) If none of your virtual machines is using this hard disk, rename it
    >> and then start up each of your virtual machines one by one. If they all
    >> start up and run OK, you can safely delete the file.
    >>
    >> 4) If one of your virtual machines is using this hard disk, then you will
    >> need to decide whether you still need that virtual machine or not...
    >>

    >>> Host system is vista home.
    >>
    >> Just a reminder that VPC 2007 isn't officially supported by Microsoft on
    >> Vista Home editions, though it does work...
    >
    > I checked and this is the hard drive for the virtual machine that I am
    > using.
    OK.

    > If I installed virtual machine on a separate partition, how did the
    > virtual machine hard drive get on my C drive with my vista os.
    Because that's the default location for virtual machines:
    http://www.mattberther.com/2005/03/2...default-paths/

    > My virtual machine is running XP Pro. It seems like 27GB is a lot of space
    > for the OS and a few programs to do medical transcription. I installed
    > virtual machine and purchased XP Pro because the transcription programs
    > were not compatible with Vista.
    1) Dun Disk Cleanup on the virtual hard disk:
    http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...+cleanup&meta=

    2) Defrag the virtual hard disk:
    http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...98&q=XP+defrag

    3) Precompact the virtual hard disk:
    http://vpc.essjae.com/precompact.zip

    4) Compact the virtual hard disk:
    http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...ual+PC+compact

    5) Optionally move the compacted hard disk onto another hard disk to boost
    performance a bit - N.B. moving it onto a different partition on the same
    physical hard disk as your system partition won't help...


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  5. #5


    Tom Guest

    Re: File Size

    Thank You for your reply's, I have already done disk cleanup and defrag on
    the virtual PC. I will also do the compacting that you recommended. I do
    understand that vista home is not a supported o.s. for virtualPC. What I do
    not understand is this. When I check properties on the c drive on virtual PC
    it takes up less than 3 gb. When I check virtual machine's hard disk space
    in the console it reports 27 gb. Aside from the o.s. what can be taking up
    all that extra space??

    Tom

    "Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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    > "Tom" <tnonta@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:eOVjejMWJHA.4928@xxxxxx
    >

    >>> 1) Close down all virtual machines.
    >>>
    >>> 2) In the VPC console, inspect each virtual machine's configuration and
    >>> see which one is pointing to this hard disk.
    >>>
    >>> 3) If none of your virtual machines is using this hard disk, rename it
    >>> and then start up each of your virtual machines one by one. If they all
    >>> start up and run OK, you can safely delete the file.
    >>>
    >>> 4) If one of your virtual machines is using this hard disk, then you
    >>> will need to decide whether you still need that virtual machine or
    >>> not...
    >>>
    >>>> Host system is vista home.
    >>>
    >>> Just a reminder that VPC 2007 isn't officially supported by Microsoft on
    >>> Vista Home editions, though it does work...
    >>
    >> I checked and this is the hard drive for the virtual machine that I am
    >> using.
    >
    > OK.
    >

    >> If I installed virtual machine on a separate partition, how did the
    >> virtual machine hard drive get on my C drive with my vista os.
    >
    > Because that's the default location for virtual machines:
    > http://www.mattberther.com/2005/03/2...default-paths/
    >

    >> My virtual machine is running XP Pro. It seems like 27GB is a lot of
    >> space for the OS and a few programs to do medical transcription. I
    >> installed virtual machine and purchased XP Pro because the transcription
    >> programs were not compatible with Vista.
    >
    > 1) Dun Disk Cleanup on the virtual hard disk:
    > http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...+cleanup&meta=
    >
    > 2) Defrag the virtual hard disk:
    > http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...98&q=XP+defrag
    >
    > 3) Precompact the virtual hard disk:
    > http://vpc.essjae.com/precompact.zip
    >
    > 4) Compact the virtual hard disk:
    > http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...ual+PC+compact
    >
    > 5) Optionally move the compacted hard disk onto another hard disk to boost
    > performance a bit - N.B. moving it onto a different partition on the same
    > physical hard disk as your system partition won't help...
    >
    >
    > --
    > Mark Rae
    > ASP.NET MVP
    > http://www.markrae.net


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  6. #6


    Bill Grant Guest

    Re: File Size



    "Tom" <tnonta@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:OjbBePOWJHA.3908@xxxxxx

    > Thank You for your reply's, I have already done disk cleanup and defrag on
    > the virtual PC. I will also do the compacting that you recommended. I do
    > understand that vista home is not a supported o.s. for virtualPC. What I
    > do not understand is this. When I check properties on the c drive on
    > virtual PC it takes up less than 3 gb. When I check virtual machine's hard
    > disk space in the console it reports 27 gb. Aside from the o.s. what can
    > be taking up all that extra space??
    >
    > Tom
    >
    The only reason I can think of for that would be that you created a fixed
    size vhd. If you create a 27G fixed size VHD it immediately allocates 27G of
    the physical disk for the vhd.

    If you created a dynamically expanding 27G vhd it should only grow as
    more space is required by the vm (ie as you add applications or data to the
    vm).


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  7. #7


    Tom Guest

    Re: File Size

    OK I did the precompact utility, then tried to compact the virtual hard disk
    with console wizard, then got the error, the virtual hard disk is unable to
    be compacted because there is not enough space on the physical hard disk.
    Help!! I knew that already, that is what started me on this quest???

    Tom
    "Bill Grant" <not.available@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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    >
    >
    > "Tom" <tnonta@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:OjbBePOWJHA.3908@xxxxxx

    >> Thank You for your reply's, I have already done disk cleanup and defrag
    >> on the virtual PC. I will also do the compacting that you recommended. I
    >> do understand that vista home is not a supported o.s. for virtualPC. What
    >> I do not understand is this. When I check properties on the c drive on
    >> virtual PC it takes up less than 3 gb. When I check virtual machine's
    >> hard disk space in the console it reports 27 gb. Aside from the o.s. what
    >> can be taking up all that extra space??
    >>
    >> Tom
    >>
    >
    > The only reason I can think of for that would be that you created a fixed
    > size vhd. If you create a 27G fixed size VHD it immediately allocates 27G
    > of the physical disk for the vhd.
    >
    > If you created a dynamically expanding 27G vhd it should only grow as
    > more space is required by the vm (ie as you add applications or data to
    > the vm).


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  8. #8


    Mark Rae [MVP] Guest

    Re: File Size

    "Tom" <tnonta@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    news:uJNXFSPWJHA.6116@xxxxxx

    >>> Thank you for your replies, I have already done disk cleanup and defrag
    >>> on the virtual PC. I will also do the compacting that you recommended. I
    >>> do understand that Vista Home is not a supported OS for VirtualPC. What
    >>> I do not understand is this. When I check properties on the C drive on
    >>> virtual PC it takes up less than 3GB. When I check virtual machine's
    >>> hard disk space in the console it reports 27GB. Aside from the OS what
    >>> can be taking up all that extra space??
    >>
    >> The only reason I can think of for that would be that you created a
    >> fixed size vhd. If you create a 27GB fixed size VHD it immediately
    >> allocates 27GB of the physical disk for the vhd.
    >>
    >> If you created a dynamically expanding 27GB vhd it should only grow as
    >> more space is required by the vm (ie as you add applications or data to
    >> the vm).
    >
    > OK I did the precompact utility, then tried to compact the virtual hard
    > disk with console wizard, then got the error, the virtual hard disk is
    > unable to be compacted because there is not enough space on the physical
    > hard disk. Help!! I knew that already, that is what started me on this
    > quest???
    Then, regrettably, I think you're out of luck as your current hardware is no
    longer sufficient for your needs...

    I would respectfully suggest that you consider acquiring a larger hard disk.
    60GB is miniscule these days - the smallest available from my usual supplier
    is 160GB, and even then only as an end-of-line product clearance...

    Alternatively, an external hard disk would help, as you could simply copy
    the virtual hard disk onto it and compact it from there - you could even
    leave it there permanently in order to free up some badly needed space on
    your already straining physical drive...


    --
    Mark Rae
    ASP.NET MVP
    http://www.markrae.net


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  9. #9


    Tom M. Guest

    Re: File Size

    Mark, thanks again for all your reply's. I was able to fix my problem using
    vista's disk manager. I removed the files I needed from the partition then
    formatted it, After that I expanded the c drive to use the unallocated
    space. That increased my c drive enough to compact the hard disk. The
    virtual hd file size is way smaller now, and I have a c drive with 50 gb of
    room for expansion.

    Tom

    "Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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    > "Tom" <tnonta@xxxxxx> wrote in message
    > news:uJNXFSPWJHA.6116@xxxxxx
    >

    >>>> Thank you for your replies, I have already done disk cleanup and defrag
    >>>> on the virtual PC. I will also do the compacting that you recommended.
    >>>> I do understand that Vista Home is not a supported OS for VirtualPC.
    >>>> What I do not understand is this. When I check properties on the C
    >>>> drive on virtual PC it takes up less than 3GB. When I check virtual
    >>>> machine's hard disk space in the console it reports 27GB. Aside from
    >>>> the OS what can be taking up all that extra space??
    >>>
    >>> The only reason I can think of for that would be that you created a
    >>> fixed size vhd. If you create a 27GB fixed size VHD it immediately
    >>> allocates 27GB of the physical disk for the vhd.
    >>>
    >>> If you created a dynamically expanding 27GB vhd it should only grow as
    >>> more space is required by the vm (ie as you add applications or data to
    >>> the vm).
    >>
    >> OK I did the precompact utility, then tried to compact the virtual hard
    >> disk with console wizard, then got the error, the virtual hard disk is
    >> unable to be compacted because there is not enough space on the physical
    >> hard disk. Help!! I knew that already, that is what started me on this
    >> quest???
    >
    > Then, regrettably, I think you're out of luck as your current hardware is
    > no longer sufficient for your needs...
    >
    > I would respectfully suggest that you consider acquiring a larger hard
    > disk. 60GB is miniscule these days - the smallest available from my usual
    > supplier is 160GB, and even then only as an end-of-line product
    > clearance...
    >
    > Alternatively, an external hard disk would help, as you could simply copy
    > the virtual hard disk onto it and compact it from there - you could even
    > leave it there permanently in order to free up some badly needed space on
    > your already straining physical drive...
    >
    >
    > --
    > Mark Rae
    > ASP.NET MVP
    > http://www.markrae.net


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  10. #10


    Mark Rae [MVP] Guest

    Re: File Size

    "Tom M." <tmuntz@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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    >>>>> Thank you for your replies, I have already done disk cleanup and
    >>>>> defrag on the virtual PC. I will also do the compacting that you
    >>>>> recommended. I do understand that Vista Home is not a supported OS for
    >>>>> VirtualPC. What I do not understand is this. When I check properties
    >>>>> on the C drive on virtual PC it takes up less than 3GB. When I check
    >>>>> virtual machine's hard disk space in the console it reports 27GB.
    >>>>> Aside from the OS what can be taking up all that extra space??
    >>>>
    >>>> The only reason I can think of for that would be that you created a
    >>>> fixed size vhd. If you create a 27GB fixed size VHD it immediately
    >>>> allocates 27GB of the physical disk for the vhd.
    >>>>
    >>>> If you created a dynamically expanding 27GB vhd it should only grow as
    >>>> more space is required by the vm (ie as you add applications or data to
    >>>> the vm).
    >>>
    >>> OK I did the precompact utility, then tried to compact the virtual hard
    >>> disk with console wizard, then got the error, the virtual hard disk is
    >>> unable to be compacted because there is not enough space on the physical
    >>> hard disk. Help!! I knew that already, that is what started me on this
    >>> quest???
    >>
    >> Then, regrettably, I think you're out of luck as your current hardware is
    >> no longer sufficient for your needs...
    >>
    >> I would respectfully suggest that you consider acquiring a larger hard
    >> disk. 60GB is miniscule these days - the smallest available from my usual
    >> supplier is 160GB, and even then only as an end-of-line product
    >> clearance...
    >>
    >> Alternatively, an external hard disk would help, as you could simply copy
    >> the virtual hard disk onto it and compact it from there - you could even
    >> leave it there permanently in order to free up some badly needed space on
    >> your already straining physical drive...
    >
    > Mark, thanks again for all your [reply's] replies.
    Welcome.


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    ASP.NET MVP
    http://www.markrae.net


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