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| | Re: Defragment/precompact Vista disk??? In message <b0gik4da5cmhfkhojn0nnpkhsbas1ump2u@xxxxxx> Bo Berglund <boberglund@xxxxxx> was claimed to have wrote: Quote: >On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:50:35 -0800, DevilsPGD ><spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>In message <f56hk49a3bi3vnu2iuiaeana5304hfcmd0@xxxxxx> Bo Berglund >><boberglund@xxxxxx> was claimed to have wrote: >> Quote: >>>On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:03:58 -0000, "Mark Rae [MVP]" >>><mark@xxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>>"Bo Berglund" <boberglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>>news gegk41ndpq48ag5gmpbngkuk917cp8d2s@xxxxxx>>>> >>>>> Any ideas where it can be found? >>>> >>>>Start, Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk Defragmenter >>> >>>Strange, it seems to offer no view of the current state like the XP >>>defragger does (Analyze and show graphically the situation). >>>How can I see how bad my disk is fragmented? >>Open an administrative command prompt and type "defrag c: -a" to see an >>analysis of the drive. >No graphics view, just this bare text: > >C:\Windows\system32>defrag c: -a >Windows Disk Defragmenter >Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corp. > >Analysis report for volume C: > > Volume size = 64.00 GB > Free space = 46.00 GB > Largest free space extent = 23.40 GB > Percent file fragmentation = 1 % > > Note: On NTFS volumes, file fragments larger than 64MB are not >included in the fragmentation statistics > > You do not need to defragment this volume. > >What an improvement from XP! allocation units on disk, which is more pixels then my 24" 1920x1200 monitor can display. The graphic hasn't meant anything for a long time as even if you had a small enough drive to fit within the number of pixels on your screen, XP's drive map didn't use 1 pixel images. With 1% fragmentation you don't need to defragment, so move on to the next step. You can get more info by adding -v to the end of the command line: Windows Disk Defragmenter Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corp. Analysis report for volume F: 750GB Volume size = 699 GB Cluster size = 4 KB Used space = 540 GB Free space = 159 GB Percent free space = 22 % File fragmentation Percent file fragmentation = 0 % Total movable files = 3,578 Average file size = 122 MB Total fragmented files = 6 Total excess fragments = 144 Average fragments per file = 1.04 Total unmovable files = 12 Free space fragmentation Free space = 159 GB Total free space extent = 2,351 Average free space per extent = 69 MB Largest free space extent = 28.03 GB Folder fragmentation Total folders = 203 Fragmented folders = 1 Excess folder fragments = 0 Master File Table (MFT) fragmentation Total MFT size = 8 MB MFT record count = 3,707 Percent MFT in use = 43 Total MFT fragments = 3 Note: On NTFS volumes, file fragments larger than 64MB are not included in the fragmentation statistics You do not need to defragment this volume. |
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| XP Pro/SP3, Vista HP | Re: Defragment/precompact Vista disk??? On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 07:16:19 +0100, Bo Berglund <boberglund@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:03:58 -0000, "Mark Rae [MVP]" ><mark@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>"Bo Berglund" <boberglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>news gegk41ndpq48ag5gmpbngkuk917cp8d2s@xxxxxx>> >> >>Start, Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk Defragmenter >Strange, it seems to offer no view of the current state like the XP >defragger does (Analyze and show graphically the situation). >How can I see how bad my disk is fragmented? MS believes that the auto defrag in Vista requires no user overview or intervention. I've been using Diskkeeper for Vista, you still get the graphical displays. -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP esSJae.com Virtual Machine Downloads |
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| | #13 (permalink) |
| | Re: Defragment/precompact Vista disk??? Mark Rae [MVP] wrote: Quote: > "Bo Berglund" <boberglund@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:b0gik4da5cmhfkhojn0nnpkhsbas1ump2u@xxxxxx > Quote: Quote: >>> Open an administrative command prompt and type "defrag c: -a" to see an >>> analysis of the drive. Quote: >> No graphics view, just this bare text: > That's right. > Quote: >> Note: On NTFS volumes, file fragments larger than 64MB are not >> included in the fragmentation statistics > Also correct. > Quote: >> What an improvement from XP! > It certainly is! All of the graphical eye candy in XP added no value > whatsoever to the process of defragging, other than to waste processor > cycles... > > XP that wastes processor cycles? Bob |
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| | #14 (permalink) |
| | Re: Defragment/precompact Vista disk??? <bobfnospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:uyTZmhraJHA.4052@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: Quote: >>> What an improvement from XP! >> It certainly is! All of the graphical eye candy in XP added no value >> whatsoever to the process of defragging, other than to waste processor >> cycles... >> >> > that wastes processor cycles? -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net |
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| | #15 (permalink) |
| | Re: Defragment/precompact Vista disk??? In message <uyTZmhraJHA.4052@xxxxxx> bobfnospam@xxxxxx was claimed to have wrote: Quote: >But isn't that what Vista is all about -- graphical eye candy added to >XP that wastes processor cycles? privileges in other applications is all graphical eye candy. Of course when it comes to eye candy, Aero manages to offload work over to the otherwise all-but-used GPU, so Aero is actually using less CPU then XP in many cases. But don't worry about letting those pesky facts while you're busy having a good rant, 'eh? |
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| | Re: Defragment/precompact Vista disk??? "DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:593ll4ds7r5f4ba9t0p0ij131cntbvnvhl@xxxxxx Quote: > Of course when it comes to eye candy, Aero manages to offload work over > to the otherwise all-but-used GPU, so Aero is actually using less CPU > then XP in many cases. Quote: > But don't worry about letting those pesky facts while you're busy having > a good rant, 'eh? MS OS - exactly the same phenomenon was noted when XP was first released. When Vienna (or whatever it ends up being called) comes out next year, expect a slew of posts saying how crap it is and can't we have good ol' Vista back, etc... -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net |
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| | #17 (permalink) |
| | Re: Defragment/precompact Vista disk??? In message <ekwfLwsaJHA.4276@xxxxxx> "Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark@xxxxxx> was claimed to have wrote: Quote: >"DevilsPGD" <spam_narf_spam@xxxxxx> wrote in message >news:593ll4ds7r5f4ba9t0p0ij131cntbvnvhl@xxxxxx > Quote: >> Of course when it comes to eye candy, Aero manages to offload work over >> to the otherwise all-but-used GPU, so Aero is actually using less CPU >> then XP in many cases. >Correct. with a subpar video card and transparency, the end result may be slower then turning Aero off since most CPUs aren't all that busy most of the time anyway. I'm a little disappointed that Microsoft didn't make Aero-without-transparency a more obvious choice, and put the wording around the non-Aero themes to indicate it's for under powered machines or something similar that would embarrass the gamer types out of using it. Quote: Quote: >> But don't worry about letting those pesky facts while you're busy having >> a good rant, 'eh? >Indeed. It always makes you look cool and hard to have a pop at the latest >MS OS - exactly the same phenomenon was noted when XP was first released. moved over. I stuck it out with 2000 myself until XP SP2. Quote: >When Vienna (or whatever it ends up being called) comes out next year, >expect a slew of posts saying how crap it is and can't we have good ol' >Vista back, etc... will still be XP. Shame, but a necessary one to get MS' OS release schedule back up to speed, and so such is Vista's fate. |
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