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Old 12-17-2008   #1 (permalink)
Tom Bizon


 
 

Sound breaking up

Thanks for the previous help with my newbie questions.....I took the plunge
and installed VPC2007. I'm running Vista Home Premium as host and XP Pro as
guest.

I'm having a problem with sound on the guest. The sound is there, but the
audio sounds like it's breaking up with lots of short drop-outs or starting
and stopping as described in another post. It sounded like it was a resource
problem in the other discussion where it took a lot to emulate the sound
device, hence the poor audio. That may be my problem too....although I have
a 2GHz dual-core with 3G of RAM (512M allocated to XP). Does anyone have any
insights or solutions to this problem?

TIA
Tom

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Old 12-17-2008   #2 (permalink)
Bo Berglund


 
 

Re: Sound breaking up

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:05:01 -0800, Tom Bizon
<TomBizon@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Thanks for the previous help with my newbie questions.....I took the plunge
>and installed VPC2007. I'm running Vista Home Premium as host and XP Pro as
>guest.
>
>I'm having a problem with sound on the guest. The sound is there, but the
>audio sounds like it's breaking up with lots of short drop-outs or starting
>and stopping as described in another post. It sounded like it was a resource
>problem in the other discussion where it took a lot to emulate the sound
>device, hence the poor audio. That may be my problem too....although I have
>a 2GHz dual-core with 3G of RAM (512M allocated to XP). Does anyone have any
>insights or solutions to this problem?
>
Did you install the Virtual Machine Additions in the guest yet?
Are you running on a laptop host? If so then have a look at the power
settings in order to adjust them for better performance.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)
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Old 12-17-2008   #3 (permalink)
Tom Bizon


 
 

Re: Sound breaking up

"Bo Berglund" wrote:
Quote:

>
> Did you install the Virtual Machine Additions in the guest yet?
Yes....I did install the Virtual Machine Additions
Quote:

> Are you running on a laptop host? If so then have a look at the power
> settings in order to adjust them for better performance.
>
I am running on a laptop (plugged in, FWIW). I'll give it a try later
(don't have that computer with me now). I assume you are suggesting a more
"high performance", but also more power hungry setting.

Thanks
Tom
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Old 12-18-2008   #4 (permalink)
Tom Bizon


 
 

Re: Sound breaking up

I wasn't able to get it to work by changing power settings. I'm still having
the audio problems. Is it that the emulation of the sound card is consuming
more resources than my computer has or is it a potential driver problem?

My immediate workaround was to disable sound in VPC....but now I get the
annoying DOS beep when it needs to make an "attention" sound.

Thanks for any help
Tom



"Bo Berglund" wrote:
Quote:

> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:05:01 -0800, Tom Bizon
> <TomBizon@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >Thanks for the previous help with my newbie questions.....I took the plunge
> >and installed VPC2007. I'm running Vista Home Premium as host and XP Pro as
> >guest.
> >
> >I'm having a problem with sound on the guest. The sound is there, but the
> >audio sounds like it's breaking up with lots of short drop-outs or starting
> >and stopping as described in another post. It sounded like it was a resource
> >problem in the other discussion where it took a lot to emulate the sound
> >device, hence the poor audio. That may be my problem too....although I have
> >a 2GHz dual-core with 3G of RAM (512M allocated to XP). Does anyone have any
> >insights or solutions to this problem?
> >
>
> Did you install the Virtual Machine Additions in the guest yet?
> Are you running on a laptop host? If so then have a look at the power
> settings in order to adjust them for better performance.
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)
>
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Old 12-19-2008   #5 (permalink)
d d


 
 

Re: Sound breaking up

Tom Bizon wrote:
Quote:

> I wasn't able to get it to work by changing power settings. I'm still having
> the audio problems. Is it that the emulation of the sound card is consuming
> more resources than my computer has or is it a potential driver problem?
>
> My immediate workaround was to disable sound in VPC....but now I get the
> annoying DOS beep when it needs to make an "attention" sound.
>
> Thanks for any help
> Tom
I'm hoping too for some good hints coming from this thread. I also have
some sound issues where sounds sometimes echo/double-up and sometimes
break up.
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Old 01-14-2009   #6 (permalink)
MLyons10


 
 

Re: Sound breaking up

I'm experiencing the same problem. I've allocated 1 GB of Memory to XP,
which should be plenty (I upped it from 512 MB's with no improvement). The
sound is just really choppy. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
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Old 01-14-2009   #7 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: Sound breaking up

Not really, I've never found a way around it, it's just hard for
virtualization products to do as it's pretty software intensive.

--
Bob Comer



On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:51:01 -0800, MLyons10
<MLyons10@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>I'm experiencing the same problem. I've allocated 1 GB of Memory to XP,
>which should be plenty (I upped it from 512 MB's with no improvement). The
>sound is just really choppy. Does anyone have any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
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Old 01-14-2009   #8 (permalink)
d d


 
 

Re: Sound breaking up

Robert Comer wrote:
Quote:

> Not really, I've never found a way around it, it's just hard for
> virtualization products to do as it's pretty software intensive.
Maybe that implies that the performance options maybe tweakable to make
a better sound experience (e.g. giving the host or guest more or less
CPU priority).
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Old 01-15-2009   #9 (permalink)
MLyons10


 
 

Re: Sound breaking up

It's a shame that sound remains an issue. Sound just doesn't seem to be very
CPU when running an OS outside of Virtual PC, so I don't know why it would be
so poor within Virtual PC. I have already upped the CPU for the XP guest to
1 GB, but when I get home I'll crank it up to the max (Whatever that may be)
and see. When I run Task Manager it doesn't use much of XP's CPU, and on the
Host it also is not very demanding of the CPU. Which begs the question "What
does exactly cause this sound issue?" Is it the Virtual PC's interface
between the guest OS and the audio card? Virtual PC does have some
limitations as it relates to its ability to interact with certain things on
the Host Machine, such as printers and such. Is the Audio Card another one
of these limitations? It seems like something that should be supported...
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Old 01-15-2009   #10 (permalink)
Steve Jain [MVP]


 
 

Re: Sound breaking up

On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 11:05:01 -0800, MLyons10
<MLyons10@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>It's a shame that sound remains an issue. Sound just doesn't seem to be very
>CPU when running an OS outside of Virtual PC, so I don't know why it would be
>so poor within Virtual PC. I have already upped the CPU for the XP guest to
>1 GB, but when I get home I'll crank it up to the max (Whatever that may be)
>and see. When I run Task Manager it doesn't use much of XP's CPU, and on the
>Host it also is not very demanding of the CPU. Which begs the question "What
>does exactly cause this sound issue?" Is it the Virtual PC's interface
>between the guest OS and the audio card? Virtual PC does have some
>limitations as it relates to its ability to interact with certain things on
>the Host Machine, such as printers and such. Is the Audio Card another one
>of these limitations? It seems like something that should be supported...
Sound isn't an issue on the host, because the host has a sound card.
In a VM, the sound card is emulated via the CPU. Anytime the CPU gets
called for other processes/tasks, it will affect the sound, the slower
and older the CPU the more pronounced.
I rarely have this problem on my quadcores, or high-MHz dual-cores.

All VM software has limitations on how it connects to the host
hardware. The only thing that is directly accessible is the CPU, all
the other "hardware" in a VM is emulated, be it VPC, VMW Workstation,
or VirtualBox.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
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