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Old 12-17-2008   #1 (permalink)
Grand_Poobah


 
 

Win 2K Install help

I have tried three times to get Win 2K installed on my VPC 2007 but
every time I try, I am informed "NTLDR is missing" after formatting and
copying over all the files to the VHD. I've installed the very same
Win2K a while ago, but deleted the VHD and everything associated with it
when I upgraded to VPC 2007 from 2004.

It appears to install correctly, but every time it gets ready to restart
it tells me to remove the "floppy" (I'm using a bootable CD instead),
which I do, and then let it reboot. Right after that I'm told that
NTLDR is missing.

Did I forget a step somewhere, or it just messing with my mind?

GP

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Old 12-17-2008   #2 (permalink)
Steve Jain [MVP]


 
 

Re: Win 2K Install help

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:49:39 -0500, Grand_Poobah
<whatever@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>I have tried three times to get Win 2K installed on my VPC 2007 but
>every time I try, I am informed "NTLDR is missing" after formatting and
>copying over all the files to the VHD. I've installed the very same
>Win2K a while ago, but deleted the VHD and everything associated with it
>when I upgraded to VPC 2007 from 2004.
>
>It appears to install correctly, but every time it gets ready to restart
>it tells me to remove the "floppy" (I'm using a bootable CD instead),
>which I do, and then let it reboot. Right after that I'm told that
>NTLDR is missing.
>
>Did I forget a step somewhere, or it just messing with my mind?
>
>GP
do you have a floppy disk in your host computer's drive?

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
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Old 12-17-2008   #3 (permalink)
Grand_Poobah


 
 

Re: Win 2K Install help

--->
Quote:

> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:49:39 -0500, Grand_Poobah
> <whatever@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

>> I have tried three times to get Win 2K installed on my VPC 2007 but
>> every time I try, I am informed "NTLDR is missing" after formatting and
>> copying over all the files to the VHD. I've installed the very same
>> Win2K a while ago, but deleted the VHD and everything associated with it
>> when I upgraded to VPC 2007 from 2004.
>>
>> It appears to install correctly, but every time it gets ready to restart
>> it tells me to remove the "floppy" (I'm using a bootable CD instead),
>> which I do, and then let it reboot. Right after that I'm told that
>> NTLDR is missing.
>>
>> Did I forget a step somewhere, or it just messing with my mind?
>>
>> GP
>
> do you have a floppy disk in your host computer's drive?
>
nope - nothing in either at the moment.

GP
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Old 12-17-2008   #4 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP]


 
 

Re: Win 2K Install help

"Grand_Poobah" <whatever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23E0E5jIYJHA.2280@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Did I forget a step somewhere, or it just messing with my mind?
Leave the CD in...


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Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

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Old 12-17-2008   #5 (permalink)
Grand_Poobah


 
 

Re: Win 2K Install help

--->
Quote:

> "Grand_Poobah" <whatever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23E0E5jIYJHA.2280@xxxxxx
>
Quote:

>> Did I forget a step somewhere, or it just messing with my mind?
>
> Leave the CD in...
>
>
Well, that's what I tried just now. It went through all the "load
......." stuff, and then gave me the "you already have a system on drive
C - do you want to repair it"? I chose "Yes" and navigated my way down
to the repair console DOS prompt.

I used "FIXBOOT C:" as a command and it appeared to work properly (gave
me the completed OK bit).

Next time I rebooted, I got the NTLDR missing message.

I used a Win98SE boot floppy and ran FDISK. It tells me that drive 1 is
set Active so that can't be the problem. However, and this is strange,
from the DOS prompt I issue "DIR C:" I am told "Invalid Drive
Specification".

Now, I don't remember Win98 very well either, but it would seem to me
that if drive C is formatted properly (from the original Win2K install)
I should at least be able to see files. Oops, I formatted it NTFS -
that's the reason. Duh.

In any case, I can't figure out why NTLDR is missing.

GP
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Old 12-17-2008   #6 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP]


 
 

Re: Win 2K Install help

"Grand_Poobah" <whatever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uGP5xxIYJHA.4852@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>> Did I forget a step somewhere, or it just messing with my mind?
>>
>> Leave the CD in...
<snip>
Quote:

> In any case, I can't figure out why NTLDR is missing.
1) Delete the virtual machine

2) Create a new virtual machine

3) Install W2k from the CD


--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-17-2008   #7 (permalink)
Grand_Poobah


 
 

Re: Win 2K Install help

--->
Quote:

> "Grand_Poobah" <whatever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uGP5xxIYJHA.4852@xxxxxx
>
Quote:
Quote:

>>>> Did I forget a step somewhere, or it just messing with my mind?
>>>
>>> Leave the CD in...
>
> <snip>
>
Quote:

>> In any case, I can't figure out why NTLDR is missing.
>
> 1) Delete the virtual machine
>
> 2) Create a new virtual machine
>
> 3) Install W2k from the CD
>
>
Yep. My current move right now. For some reason, though, it is taking
a whale of a long time to format 16G. Almost 10 minutes for just 22% so
far. My host is Win Vista Home Premium (32-bit) and I already have a
running Win98SE VPC on it that formatted and installed just fine.

GP
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Old 12-17-2008   #8 (permalink)
Bo Berglund


 
 

Re: Win 2K Install help

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:32:20 -0500, Grand_Poobah
<whatever@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>--->
Quote:

>> "Grand_Poobah" <whatever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:uGP5xxIYJHA.4852@xxxxxx
>>
Quote:

>>>>> Did I forget a step somewhere, or it just messing with my mind?
>>>>
>>>> Leave the CD in...
>>
>> <snip>
>>
Quote:

>>> In any case, I can't figure out why NTLDR is missing.
>>
>> 1) Delete the virtual machine
>>
>> 2) Create a new virtual machine
>>
>> 3) Install W2k from the CD
>>
>>
>
>Yep. My current move right now. For some reason, though, it is taking
>a whale of a long time to format 16G. Almost 10 minutes for just 22% so
>far. My host is Win Vista Home Premium (32-bit) and I already have a
>running Win98SE VPC on it that formatted and installed just fine.
>
>GP
You should *always* select the "Quick Format" option in that dialogue!
Especially in a virtual disk it makes no sense actually going out and
writing zeros on all these clusters! Takes an eternity to complete.
And quite possibly the VHD will now expand to the full 16G size on
your host too....

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)
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Old 12-17-2008   #9 (permalink)
Grand_Poobah


 
 

Re: Win 2K Install help

--->
Quote:

> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:32:20 -0500, Grand_Poobah
> <whatever@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

>> --->
Quote:

>>> "Grand_Poobah" <whatever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:uGP5xxIYJHA.4852@xxxxxx
>>>
>>>>>> Did I forget a step somewhere, or it just messing with my mind?
>>>>> Leave the CD in...
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> In any case, I can't figure out why NTLDR is missing.
>>> 1) Delete the virtual machine
>>>
>>> 2) Create a new virtual machine
>>>
>>> 3) Install W2k from the CD
>>>
>>>
>> Yep. My current move right now. For some reason, though, it is taking
>> a whale of a long time to format 16G. Almost 10 minutes for just 22% so
>> far. My host is Win Vista Home Premium (32-bit) and I already have a
>> running Win98SE VPC on it that formatted and installed just fine.
>>
>> GP
>
> You should *always* select the "Quick Format" option in that dialogue!
> Especially in a virtual disk it makes no sense actually going out and
> writing zeros on all these clusters! Takes an eternity to complete.
> And quite possibly the VHD will now expand to the full 16G size on
> your host too....
>
That's what I thought also Bo, but I never got the option. The line
just read "Format this partition as NTFS?" - no quick format option. It
did tell me that there was "an unidentified operating system already on
the disk" though. I am assuming that it was my prior attempt at
installing W2K. But if it was, I have to wonder why it didn't recognize
"itself".

This is all wrong from what I remember about my first install on VPC of W2K.

The VHD doesn't appear to be expanding though - even though the
formatting is now up to 70% (after over an hour).

Gp
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Old 12-17-2008   #10 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP]


 
 

Re: Win 2K Install help

"Grand_Poobah" <whatever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uVLZtOJYJHA.652@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>>> 1) Delete the virtual machine
>>>>
>>>> 2) Create a new virtual machine
>>>>
>>>> 3) Install W2k from the CD
>>>>
>>> Yep. My current move right now.
It would seem not...
Quote:
Quote:

>> You should *always* select the "Quick Format" option in that dialogue!
>> Especially in a virtual disk it makes no sense actually going out and
>> writing zeros on all these clusters! Takes an eternity to complete.
>> And quite possibly the VHD will now expand to the full 16G size on
>> your host too....
I don't think it will do that...
Quote:

> It did tell me that there was "an unidentified operating system already on
> the disk" though.
Which of course you deleted, obviously...


--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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