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Old 12-17-2008   #1 (permalink)
DKx


VISTA Home Premium 32bit
 
 

HELP - Display problem with DOS based programs

I've tried to find the solution for days, but there were no proper ones...


OS : Vista Home Premium x32
VM : VPC 2007 (original ver.) running Windows 98 SE



I wanted to play some old old games that not working even under XP... so I decided to install Win98 with VPC.


I installed VPC2007 + Win98 SE, and tried to run the game... yeah, and it didn't work


When I run it, it only shows upper half of the game..


In other words.. the game is vertically double sized, and the screen shows the upper half only.. this is the problem I'm encountering.







Give me a little advice and save this poor soul


I'm even concerning of playing with this 'half screen' IF I can't find any solution T___________T

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Old 12-17-2008   #2 (permalink)
Grand_Poobah


 
 

Re: HELP - Display problem with DOS based programs

--->
Quote:

> ::I've tried to find the solution for days, but there were no proper
> ones... ::
> ::::
> ::::
> ::OS : Vista Home Premium x32::
> ::VM : VPC 2007 (original ver.) running Windows 98 SE::
> ::::
> ::::
> ::::
> ::I wanted to play some old old games that not working even under XP...
> so I decided to install Win98 with VPC.::
> ::::
> ::::
> ::I installed VPC2007 + Win98 SE, and tried to run the game... yeah,
> and it didn't work ::
> ::::
> ::::
> ::When I run it, it only shows upper half of the game..::
> ::::
> ::::
> ::In other words.. the game is vertically double sized, and the screen
> shows the upper half only.. this is the problem I'm encountering.::
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> GIVE ME A LITTLE ADVICE AND SAVE THIS POOR SOUL
>
>
> I ' m e v e n c o n c e r n i n g o f p l a y i n g w i t h
> t h i s ' h a l f s c r e e n ' I F I c a n ' t f i n d a
> n y s o l u t i o n T _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ T
>
>
I'm betting that it is the tiny amount of RAM on the emulated video card
- it's only an 8Mb Trio S3 card. Games that use any Direct X can't use it.

GP
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-17-2008   #3 (permalink)
Steve Jain [MVP]


 
 

Re: HELP - Display problem with DOS based programs

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:44:51 -0500, Grand_Poobah
<whatever@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>--->
Quote:

>> ::I've tried to find the solution for days, but there were no proper
>> ones... ::
>> ::::
>> ::::
>> ::OS : Vista Home Premium x32::
>> ::VM : VPC 2007 (original ver.) running Windows 98 SE::
>> ::::
>> ::::
>> ::::
>> ::I wanted to play some old old games that not working even under XP...
>> so I decided to install Win98 with VPC.::
>> ::::
>> ::::
>> ::I installed VPC2007 + Win98 SE, and tried to run the game... yeah,
>> and it didn't work ::
>> ::::
>> ::::
>> ::When I run it, it only shows upper half of the game..::
>> ::::
>> ::::
>> ::In other words.. the game is vertically double sized, and the screen
>> shows the upper half only.. this is the problem I'm encountering.::
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> GIVE ME A LITTLE ADVICE AND SAVE THIS POOR SOUL
>>
>>
>> I ' m e v e n c o n c e r n i n g o f p l a y i n g w i t h
>> t h i s ' h a l f s c r e e n ' I F I c a n ' t f i n d a
>> n y s o l u t i o n T _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ T
>>
>>
>
>I'm betting that it is the tiny amount of RAM on the emulated video card
>- it's only an 8Mb Trio S3 card. Games that use any Direct X can't use it.
>
>GP
DOS games don't use DirectX, that's Windows only.
Plus, most video cards back in the DOS days only had between 2-4MB of
RAM, exactly like the S3 Trio VPC emulates.

For DOS game help, go here:
http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy...C/default.aspx

If you're only seeing a half-screen, it's likely that the video mode
that the game is using is not supported by VPC.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-17-2008   #4 (permalink)
Grand_Poobah


 
 

Re: HELP - Display problem with DOS based programs

--->
Quote:

> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:44:51 -0500, Grand_Poobah
> <whatever@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

>> --->
Quote:

>>> ::I've tried to find the solution for days, but there were no proper
>>> ones... ::
>>> ::::
>>> ::::
>>> ::OS : Vista Home Premium x32::
>>> ::VM : VPC 2007 (original ver.) running Windows 98 SE::
>>> ::::
>>> ::::
>>> ::::
>>> ::I wanted to play some old old games that not working even under XP...
>>> so I decided to install Win98 with VPC.::
>>> ::::
>>> ::::
>>> ::I installed VPC2007 + Win98 SE, and tried to run the game... yeah,
>>> and it didn't work ::
>>> ::::
>>> ::::
>>> ::When I run it, it only shows upper half of the game..::
>>> ::::
>>> ::::
>>> ::In other words.. the game is vertically double sized, and the screen
>>> shows the upper half only.. this is the problem I'm encountering.::
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> GIVE ME A LITTLE ADVICE AND SAVE THIS POOR SOUL
>>>
>>>
>>> I ' m e v e n c o n c e r n i n g o f p l a y i n g w i t h
>>> t h i s ' h a l f s c r e e n ' I F I c a n ' t f i n d a
>>> n y s o l u t i o n T _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ T
>>>
>>>
>> I'm betting that it is the tiny amount of RAM on the emulated video card
>> - it's only an 8Mb Trio S3 card. Games that use any Direct X can't use it.
>>
>> GP
>
> DOS games don't use DirectX, that's Windows only.
> Plus, most video cards back in the DOS days only had between 2-4MB of
> RAM, exactly like the S3 Trio VPC emulates.
>
> For DOS game help, go here:
> http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy...C/default.aspx
>
> If you're only seeing a half-screen, it's likely that the video mode
> that the game is using is not supported by VPC.
>
Steve:

I didn't say that DOS games used DirectX - I said "Games that use any
Direct X can't use it." in a separate sentence.

I also have had DOS games that did the upper half/lower half bit and
managed to make it use the whole screen by doubling the size of video
RAM by editing the XML file from 8 to 16. Seemed to work.

GP
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-17-2008   #5 (permalink)
Steve Jain [MVP]


 
 

Re: HELP - Display problem with DOS based programs

On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:20:50 -0500, Grand_Poobah
<whatever@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>--->
Quote:

>> On Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:44:51 -0500, Grand_Poobah
>> <whatever@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>
Quote:

>>> --->
>>>> ::I've tried to find the solution for days, but there were no proper
>>>> ones... ::
>>>> ::::
>>>> ::::
>>>> ::OS : Vista Home Premium x32::
>>>> ::VM : VPC 2007 (original ver.) running Windows 98 SE::
>>>> ::::
>>>> ::::
>>>> ::::
>>>> ::I wanted to play some old old games that not working even under XP...
>>>> so I decided to install Win98 with VPC.::
>>>> ::::
>>>> ::::
>>>> ::I installed VPC2007 + Win98 SE, and tried to run the game... yeah,
>>>> and it didn't work ::
>>>> ::::
>>>> ::::
>>>> ::When I run it, it only shows upper half of the game..::
>>>> ::::
>>>> ::::
>>>> ::In other words.. the game is vertically double sized, and the screen
>>>> shows the upper half only.. this is the problem I'm encountering.::
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> GIVE ME A LITTLE ADVICE AND SAVE THIS POOR SOUL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I ' m e v e n c o n c e r n i n g o f p l a y i n g w i t h
>>>> t h i s ' h a l f s c r e e n ' I F I c a n ' t f i n d a
>>>> n y s o l u t i o n T _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ T
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I'm betting that it is the tiny amount of RAM on the emulated video card
>>> - it's only an 8Mb Trio S3 card. Games that use any Direct X can't use it.
>>>
>>> GP
>>
>> DOS games don't use DirectX, that's Windows only.
>> Plus, most video cards back in the DOS days only had between 2-4MB of
>> RAM, exactly like the S3 Trio VPC emulates.
>>
>> For DOS game help, go here:
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy...C/default.aspx
>>
>> If you're only seeing a half-screen, it's likely that the video mode
>> that the game is using is not supported by VPC.
>>
>
>Steve:
>
>I didn't say that DOS games used DirectX - I said "Games that use any
>Direct X can't use it." in a separate sentence.
Gotcha
Quote:

>
>I also have had DOS games that did the upper half/lower half bit and
>managed to make it use the whole screen by doubling the size of video
>RAM by editing the XML file from 8 to 16. Seemed to work.
that's interesting, good to know.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-18-2008   #6 (permalink)
DKx


VISTA Home Premium 32bit
 
 

Re: HELP - Display problem with DOS based programs

I changed the graphic memory to 16, but it didn't fix the problem.
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Old 12-18-2008   #7 (permalink)
Grand_Poobah


 
 

Re: HELP - Display problem with DOS based programs

--->
Quote:

> I changed the graphic memory to 16, but it didn't fix the problem.
>
>
Does the game itself have any sort of instructions? I seem to remember
that some DOS games has trailing switches when you executed them from
the DOS command line like:

MYGAME /VGA

or

MYGAME /VGA:LCD

Stuff like that.

GP
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-18-2008   #8 (permalink)
Grand_Poobah


 
 

Re: HELP - Display problem with DOS based programs

--->
Quote:

> --->
Quote:

>> I changed the graphic memory to 16, but it didn't fix the problem.
>>
>>
>
> Does the game itself have any sort of instructions? I seem to remember
> that some DOS games has trailing switches when you executed them from
> the DOS command line like:
>
> MYGAME /VGA
>
> or
>
> MYGAME /VGA:LCD
>
> Stuff like that.
>
> GP
Try:

MYGAME /?

GP
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 12-18-2008   #9 (permalink)
DKx


VISTA Home Premium 32bit
 
 

Re: HELP - Display problem with DOS based programs

MYGAME...? haven't heard about that kinda command...


I tried, but nothing happened... you meant in-dos command, right?
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Old 12-18-2008   #10 (permalink)
Steve Jain [MVP]


 
 

Re: HELP - Display problem with DOS based programs

On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:15:01 -0600, DKx <guest@xxxxxx-email.com>
wrote:
Quote:

>
>MYGAME...? haven't heard about that kinda command...
>
>
>I tried, but happened... you meant in-dos command, right?
he means "mygame" as in doom /? for Doom, quake /? for Quake, etc.
Replace "mygame" with the filename you run to start your game.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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