Vista - VM Additions broke Guest OS

12-30-2008

Ran Setup.exe in the CD, says it completed normally and required a
restart, I hit restart, it went to "Windows is shutting down...and
nothing...would not close down. I closed down via the console. Started it
again and is sitting on starting up (ie XP logo and status bar underneath
moving horizontally).

Never went to logon.

I started in SAFE mode, unchecked VMUSRVC.EXE in Msconfig/startup..still
would not start properly.

I did restore to VMA install point, restarted, no good.
--
Regards
Tom

12-30-2008

"ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:2602B582-2DBA-472F-8C28-4C1A5B99EFD6@xxxxxx

Quote:

> Ran Setup.exe in the CD, says it completed normally and required a
> restart, I hit restart, it went to "Windows is shutting down...and
> nothing...would not close down. I closed down via the console. Started it
> again and is sitting on starting up (ie XP logo and status bar underneath
> moving horizontally).
>
> Never went to logon.
>
> I started in SAFE mode, unchecked VMUSRVC.EXE in Msconfig/startup..still
> would not start properly.
>
> I did restore to VMA install point, restarted, no good.
> --
> Regards
> Tom

You certainly have a knack. I personally think that Microsoft should
employ you as a tester!

12-30-2008

Perhaps they should have. I have spent about 2 weeks (not full time of
course) trying to get to the stage where I am confident of running my work PC
on my laptop in the event of a disaster (new Lenovo, 64 bit Visa business,
VPC2007) or at least running some essential stuff and am not there yet by a
long way.

From what I have seen VPC2007 should stay off off broadway, way down in some
basement with an audience of 2.

I have many years IT experience (no not admin stuff which would help of
course) in software development, management etc and I am very very
dissapointed with this product - I understand now why it is free and I feared
this might be the case when I started this excercise.

BTW why this concept of VM Additions - from what I can see that it adds it
should just come standard with VPC. After all it knows what guest OS one is
trying to install cause it asks.
--
Regards
Tom

"Bill Grant" wrote:

Quote:

>
>
> "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:2602B582-2DBA-472F-8C28-4C1A5B99EFD6@xxxxxx

Quote:

> > Ran Setup.exe in the CD, says it completed normally and required a
> > restart, I hit restart, it went to "Windows is shutting down...and
> > nothing...would not close down. I closed down via the console. Started it
> > again and is sitting on starting up (ie XP logo and status bar underneath
> > moving horizontally).
> >
> > Never went to logon.
> >
> > I started in SAFE mode, unchecked VMUSRVC.EXE in Msconfig/startup..still
> > would not start properly.
> >
> > I did restore to VMA install point, restarted, no good.
> > --
> > Regards
> > Tom

>
> You certainly have a knack. I personally think that Microsoft should
> employ you as a tester!
>
>

12-30-2008

>BTW why this concept of VM Additions - from what I can see that it adds it

Quote:

>should just come standard with VPC. After all it knows what guest OS one is
>trying to install cause it asks.

There's no way to inject the VM additions as the OS install in the VM
has full control of the computer, not VPC, remember it's just an
emulator of a real PC and a real PC can't inject software by itself
either.

One could build an install disk for any OS with the proper install of
the Additions, but who would do that when VM usage is so much less...

--
Bob Comer

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:11:00 -0800, ThomasAJ
<ThomasAJ@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>Perhaps they should have. I have spent about 2 weeks (not full time of
>course) trying to get to the stage where I am confident of running my work PC
>on my laptop in the event of a disaster (new Lenovo, 64 bit Visa business,
>VPC2007) or at least running some essential stuff and am not there yet by a
>long way.
>
>From what I have seen VPC2007 should stay off off broadway, way down in some
>basement with an audience of 2.
>
>I have many years IT experience (no not admin stuff which would help of
>course) in software development, management etc and I am very very
>dissapointed with this product - I understand now why it is free and I feared
>this might be the case when I started this excercise.
>
>BTW why this concept of VM Additions - from what I can see that it adds it
>should just come standard with VPC. After all it knows what guest OS one is
>trying to install cause it asks.

12-30-2008

"ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:3602ADD6-7FDF-4D98-B44E-B481F9A3784D@xxxxxx

Quote:

> BTW why this concept of VM Additions - from what I can see that it adds it
> should just come standard with VPC. After all it knows what guest OS one
> is
> trying to install because it asks.

No it doesn't. The VM creation wizard has nothing whatsoever to do with the
subsequent installation of an OS - they are simply there as recommended
settings... E.g. you could tell VPC that you wanted to create a VM
appropriate for Win2k3, but then actually install Win98 - VPC wouldn't care
because it wouldn't know...

The installation of the Additions has to be a manual process because:

a) the OS running in a VM doesn't actually know it's running in a VM, so it
doesn't know that it needs the Additions

b) VPC doesn't know what OS is running on the VM - the first stage of the
Additions setup identifies that...

This is the same for any software virtualisation technology - cf VMWare's
Tools or VirtualBox' Additions:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...q=VMWare+Tools
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...dditions&meta=

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

12-30-2008	#1 (permalink)
ThomasAJ n/a posts	VM Additions broke Guest OS Ran Setup.exe in the CD, says it completed normally and required a restart, I hit restart, it went to "Windows is shutting down...and nothing...would not close down. I closed down via the console. Started it again and is sitting on starting up (ie XP logo and status bar underneath moving horizontally). Never went to logon. I started in SAFE mode, unchecked VMUSRVC.EXE in Msconfig/startup..still would not start properly. I did restore to VMA install point, restarted, no good. -- Regards Tom
My System Specs

12-30-2008	#2 (permalink)
Bill Grant n/a posts	Re: VM Additions broke Guest OS "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:2602B582-2DBA-472F-8C28-4C1A5B99EFD6@xxxxxx Quote: > Ran Setup.exe in the CD, says it completed normally and required a > restart, I hit restart, it went to "Windows is shutting down...and > nothing...would not close down. I closed down via the console. Started it > again and is sitting on starting up (ie XP logo and status bar underneath > moving horizontally). > > Never went to logon. > > I started in SAFE mode, unchecked VMUSRVC.EXE in Msconfig/startup..still > would not start properly. > > I did restore to VMA install point, restarted, no good. > -- > Regards > Tom You certainly have a knack. I personally think that Microsoft should employ you as a tester!
My System Specs

12-30-2008	#3 (permalink)
ThomasAJ n/a posts	Re: VM Additions broke Guest OS Perhaps they should have. I have spent about 2 weeks (not full time of course) trying to get to the stage where I am confident of running my work PC on my laptop in the event of a disaster (new Lenovo, 64 bit Visa business, VPC2007) or at least running some essential stuff and am not there yet by a long way. From what I have seen VPC2007 should stay off off broadway, way down in some basement with an audience of 2. I have many years IT experience (no not admin stuff which would help of course) in software development, management etc and I am very very dissapointed with this product - I understand now why it is free and I feared this might be the case when I started this excercise. BTW why this concept of VM Additions - from what I can see that it adds it should just come standard with VPC. After all it knows what guest OS one is trying to install cause it asks. -- Regards Tom "Bill Grant" wrote: Quote: > > > "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:2602B582-2DBA-472F-8C28-4C1A5B99EFD6@xxxxxx Quote: > > Ran Setup.exe in the CD, says it completed normally and required a > > restart, I hit restart, it went to "Windows is shutting down...and > > nothing...would not close down. I closed down via the console. Started it > > again and is sitting on starting up (ie XP logo and status bar underneath > > moving horizontally). > > > > Never went to logon. > > > > I started in SAFE mode, unchecked VMUSRVC.EXE in Msconfig/startup..still > > would not start properly. > > > > I did restore to VMA install point, restarted, no good. > > -- > > Regards > > Tom > > You certainly have a knack. I personally think that Microsoft should > employ you as a tester! > >
My System Specs

12-30-2008	#4 (permalink)
Robert Comer n/a posts	Re: VM Additions broke Guest OS >BTW why this concept of VM Additions - from what I can see that it adds it Quote: >should just come standard with VPC. After all it knows what guest OS one is >trying to install cause it asks. There's no way to inject the VM additions as the OS install in the VM has full control of the computer, not VPC, remember it's just an emulator of a real PC and a real PC can't inject software by itself either. One could build an install disk for any OS with the proper install of the Additions, but who would do that when VM usage is so much less... -- Bob Comer On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:11:00 -0800, ThomasAJ <ThomasAJ@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Perhaps they should have. I have spent about 2 weeks (not full time of >course) trying to get to the stage where I am confident of running my work PC >on my laptop in the event of a disaster (new Lenovo, 64 bit Visa business, >VPC2007) or at least running some essential stuff and am not there yet by a >long way. > >From what I have seen VPC2007 should stay off off broadway, way down in some >basement with an audience of 2. > >I have many years IT experience (no not admin stuff which would help of >course) in software development, management etc and I am very very >dissapointed with this product - I understand now why it is free and I feared >this might be the case when I started this excercise. > >BTW why this concept of VM Additions - from what I can see that it adds it >should just come standard with VPC. After all it knows what guest OS one is >trying to install cause it asks.
My System Specs

12-30-2008	#5 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP] n/a posts	Re: VM Additions broke Guest OS "ThomasAJ" <ThomasAJ@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:3602ADD6-7FDF-4D98-B44E-B481F9A3784D@xxxxxx Quote: > BTW why this concept of VM Additions - from what I can see that it adds it > should just come standard with VPC. After all it knows what guest OS one > is > trying to install because it asks. No it doesn't. The VM creation wizard has nothing whatsoever to do with the subsequent installation of an OS - they are simply there as recommended settings... E.g. you could tell VPC that you wanted to create a VM appropriate for Win2k3, but then actually install Win98 - VPC wouldn't care because it wouldn't know... The installation of the Additions has to be a manual process because: a) the OS running in a VM doesn't actually know it's running in a VM, so it doesn't know that it needs the Additions b) VPC doesn't know what OS is running on the VM - the first stage of the Additions setup identifies that... This is the same for any software virtualisation technology - cf VMWare's Tools or VirtualBox' Additions: http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...q=VMWare+Tools http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...dditions&meta= -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net
My System Specs

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