Vista - MS Virtual Machine

01-08-2009

Hi All-I am running windows xp media center and tried to install ms virtual
machine. I can download the program and install, create a virtual machine but
can't install an os. I have a HP pavillion running xp media center sp2. The
install dvd's I made when I first bought the system. When I tried to use the
dvd I keep getting error message "recovery disk not compatable". The xp os I
have is legit with key # but I can't get to load in the os. Any ideas.
Anything would be greatly appreciated.

01-08-2009

It's probably BIOS locked to the host machine and you wont be able to
install it in a VM, you'll have to get a retail version of XP.

--
Bob Comer

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:16:27 -0800, Jon77
<Jon77@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>Hi All-I am running windows xp media center and tried to install ms virtual
>machine. I can download the program and install, create a virtual machine but
>can't install an os. I have a HP pavillion running xp media center sp2. The
>install dvd's I made when I first bought the system. When I tried to use the
>dvd I keep getting error message "recovery disk not compatable". The xp os I
>have is legit with key # but I can't get to load in the os. Any ideas.
>Anything would be greatly appreciated.

01-08-2009

Are you trying to install the same OS from the same disks you have on
your physical machine to the VM? If so, then that shouldn't work at all
because of the large differences between your physical hardware and the
emulated hardware. It surly is a violation of license also as your OS
is probably an OEM version and has no real "install" disks - only
'recovery' disks.

GP

--->

Quote:

> Hi All-I am running windows xp media center and tried to install ms virtual
> machine. I can download the program and install, create a virtual machine but
> can't install an os. I have a HP pavillion running xp media center sp2. The
> install dvd's I made when I first bought the system. When I tried to use the
> dvd I keep getting error message "recovery disk not compatable". The xp os I
> have is legit with key # but I can't get to load in the os. Any ideas.
> Anything would be greatly appreciated.

01-08-2009

"Grand_Poobah" wrote:

Quote:

> Are you trying to install the same OS from the same disks you have on
> your physical machine to the VM? If so, then that shouldn't work at all
> because of the large differences between your physical hardware and the
> emulated hardware. It surly is a violation of license also as your OS
> is probably an OEM version and has no real "install" disks - only
> 'recovery' disks.
>
> GP
>
>
> --->

Quote:

> > Hi All-I am running windows xp media center and tried to install ms virtual
> > machine. I can download the program and install, create a virtual machine but
> > can't install an os. I have a HP pavillion running xp media center sp2. The
> > install dvd's I made when I first bought the system. When I tried to use the
> > dvd I keep getting error message "recovery disk not compatable". The xp os I
> > have is legit with key # but I can't get to load in the os. Any ideas.
> > Anything would be greatly appreciated.

> Bummer-any way around it? If I did buy a retail version of XP Home ed would the VM run on the machine running xp media edition?

Thanks guys

01-08-2009

"Jon77" <Jon77@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:196A25D7-4B84-4E05-8CAC-1E1D9AF630F1@xxxxxx

Quote:

>>> Hi All-I am running windows xp media center and tried to install ms
>>> virtual
>>> machine. I can download the program and install, create a virtual
>>> machine but
>>> can't install an os. I have a HP pavillion running xp media center sp2.
>>> The
>>> install dvd's I made when I first bought the system. When I tried to use
>>> the
>>> dvd I keep getting error message "recovery disk not compatable". The xp
>>> os I
>>> have is legit with key # but I can't get to load in the os. Any ideas.
>>> Anything would be greatly appreciated.

>>
>> Are you trying to install the same OS from the same disks you have on
>> your physical machine to the VM? If so, then that shouldn't work at all
>> because of the large differences between your physical hardware and the
>> emulated hardware. It surly is a violation of license also as your OS
>> is probably an OEM version and has no real "install" disks - only
>> 'recovery' disks.

>
> Bummer-any way around it?

No. The first two letters in the abbreviation "OEM" stand for "original
equipment". Other than the CPU, all of the components in a virtual machine
are emulated, hence *completely* different from the host's physical
components...

Quote:

> If I did buy a retail version of XP Home ed would the VM run on the
> machine
> running XP media edition?

Yes.

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

01-08-2009

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:21:01 -0800, Jon77
<Jon77@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>
>
>"Grand_Poobah" wrote:
>

Quote:

>> Are you trying to install the same OS from the same disks you have on
>> your physical machine to the VM? If so, then that shouldn't work at all
>> because of the large differences between your physical hardware and the
>> emulated hardware. It surly is a violation of license also as your OS
>> is probably an OEM version and has no real "install" disks - only
>> 'recovery' disks.
>>
>> GP
>>
>>
>> --->

Quote:

>> > Hi All-I am running windows xp media center and tried to install ms virtual
>> > machine. I can download the program and install, create a virtual machine but
>> > can't install an os. I have a HP pavillion running xp media center sp2. The
>> > install dvd's I made when I first bought the system. When I tried to use the
>> > dvd I keep getting error message "recovery disk not compatable". The xp os I
>> > have is legit with key # but I can't get to load in the os. Any ideas.
>> > Anything would be greatly appreciated.

Quote:

> Bummer-any way around it?

Probably not.
The DVD:s you created are intended for recovery install on the
physical system which it came with only. THe license gives no right to
install on any other hardware whatsoever. To enforce this the
installer checks the system it is being installed on for particular
"fingerprints" that uniquely identifies the system, like the BIOS and
some hardware specifics.
If they do not match the installer quits.

A virtual machine running in VPC 2007 exposes to any software running
in it the *emulated* hardware, which is quite different from the
*real* hardware of the actual PC. So even though you have installed
the VPC2007 system on the HP PC on which the DVD:s were created it
won't work anyway since thta hardware is not visible inside a virtual
machine.

Quote:

> If I did buy a retail version of XP Home ed would the
> VM run on the machine running xp media edition?

If you have a *retail* version of the install CD for XP Home it would
most certainly be possible to create a virtual machine in VPC2007 even
if it is running on Media Center edition and to install XP Home inside
the virtual machine using that CD.
It is just the BIOS locked OEM recovery DVD:s that are not usable.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

01-08-2009

"Bo Berglund" wrote:

Quote:

> On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:21:01 -0800, Jon77
> <Jon77@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

Quote:

> >
> >
> >"Grand_Poobah" wrote:
> >

Quote:

> >> Are you trying to install the same OS from the same disks you have on
> >> your physical machine to the VM? If so, then that shouldn't work at all
> >> because of the large differences between your physical hardware and the
> >> emulated hardware. It surly is a violation of license also as your OS
> >> is probably an OEM version and has no real "install" disks - only
> >> 'recovery' disks.
> >>
> >> GP
> >>
> >>
> >> --->
> >> > Hi All-I am running windows xp media center and tried to install ms virtual
> >> > machine. I can download the program and install, create a virtual machine but
> >> > can't install an os. I have a HP pavillion running xp media center sp2. The
> >> > install dvd's I made when I first bought the system. When I tried to use the
> >> > dvd I keep getting error message "recovery disk not compatable". The xp os I
> >> > have is legit with key # but I can't get to load in the os. Any ideas.
> >> > Anything would be greatly appreciated.

>

Quote:

> > Bummer-any way around it?

> Probably not.
> The DVD:s you created are intended for recovery install on the
> physical system which it came with only. THe license gives no right to
> install on any other hardware whatsoever. To enforce this the
> installer checks the system it is being installed on for particular
> "fingerprints" that uniquely identifies the system, like the BIOS and
> some hardware specifics.
> If they do not match the installer quits.
>
> A virtual machine running in VPC 2007 exposes to any software running
> in it the *emulated* hardware, which is quite different from the
> *real* hardware of the actual PC. So even though you have installed
> the VPC2007 system on the HP PC on which the DVD:s were created it
> won't work anyway since thta hardware is not visible inside a virtual
> machine.
>

Quote:

> > If I did buy a retail version of XP Home ed would the
> > VM run on the machine running xp media edition?

>
> If you have a *retail* version of the install CD for XP Home it would
> most certainly be possible to create a virtual machine in VPC2007 even
> if it is running on Media Center edition and to install XP Home inside
> the virtual machine using that CD.
> It is just the BIOS locked OEM recovery DVD:s that are not usable.
>
> --
>
> Bo Berglund (Sweden)
> Thanks my friend-I'll see if I can find a retail version of XP.

01-08-2009

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:06:12 -0800, Jon77
<Jon77@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>> > If I did buy a retail version of XP Home ed would the
>> > VM run on the machine running xp media edition?

>>
>> If you have a *retail* version of the install CD for XP Home it would
>> most certainly be possible to create a virtual machine in VPC2007 even
>> if it is running on Media Center edition and to install XP Home inside
>> the virtual machine using that CD.
>> It is just the BIOS locked OEM recovery DVD:s that are not usable.
>>
>> --
>>

Quote:

> Thanks my friend-I'll see if I can find a retail version of XP.

You're welcome.
I hear the best place nowadays is Ebay

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)

01-08-2009	#1 (permalink)
Jon77 n/a posts	MS Virtual Machine Hi All-I am running windows xp media center and tried to install ms virtual machine. I can download the program and install, create a virtual machine but can't install an os. I have a HP pavillion running xp media center sp2. The install dvd's I made when I first bought the system. When I tried to use the dvd I keep getting error message "recovery disk not compatable". The xp os I have is legit with key # but I can't get to load in the os. Any ideas. Anything would be greatly appreciated.
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01-08-2009	#2 (permalink)
Robert Comer n/a posts	Re: MS Virtual Machine It's probably BIOS locked to the host machine and you wont be able to install it in a VM, you'll have to get a retail version of XP. -- Bob Comer On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 11:16:27 -0800, Jon77 <Jon77@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Hi All-I am running windows xp media center and tried to install ms virtual >machine. I can download the program and install, create a virtual machine but >can't install an os. I have a HP pavillion running xp media center sp2. The >install dvd's I made when I first bought the system. When I tried to use the >dvd I keep getting error message "recovery disk not compatable". The xp os I >have is legit with key # but I can't get to load in the os. Any ideas. >Anything would be greatly appreciated.
My System Specs

01-08-2009	#3 (permalink)
Grand_Poobah n/a posts	Re: MS Virtual Machine Are you trying to install the same OS from the same disks you have on your physical machine to the VM? If so, then that shouldn't work at all because of the large differences between your physical hardware and the emulated hardware. It surly is a violation of license also as your OS is probably an OEM version and has no real "install" disks - only 'recovery' disks. GP ---> Quote: > Hi All-I am running windows xp media center and tried to install ms virtual > machine. I can download the program and install, create a virtual machine but > can't install an os. I have a HP pavillion running xp media center sp2. The > install dvd's I made when I first bought the system. When I tried to use the > dvd I keep getting error message "recovery disk not compatable". The xp os I > have is legit with key # but I can't get to load in the os. Any ideas. > Anything would be greatly appreciated.
My System Specs

01-08-2009	#4 (permalink)
Jon77 n/a posts	Re: MS Virtual Machine "Grand_Poobah" wrote: Quote: > Are you trying to install the same OS from the same disks you have on > your physical machine to the VM? If so, then that shouldn't work at all > because of the large differences between your physical hardware and the > emulated hardware. It surly is a violation of license also as your OS > is probably an OEM version and has no real "install" disks - only > 'recovery' disks. > > GP > > > ---> Quote: > > Hi All-I am running windows xp media center and tried to install ms virtual > > machine. I can download the program and install, create a virtual machine but > > can't install an os. I have a HP pavillion running xp media center sp2. The > > install dvd's I made when I first bought the system. When I tried to use the > > dvd I keep getting error message "recovery disk not compatable". The xp os I > > have is legit with key # but I can't get to load in the os. Any ideas. > > Anything would be greatly appreciated. > Bummer-any way around it? If I did buy a retail version of XP Home ed would the VM run on the machine running xp media edition? Thanks guys
My System Specs

01-08-2009	#5 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP] n/a posts	Re: MS Virtual Machine "Jon77" <Jon77@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:196A25D7-4B84-4E05-8CAC-1E1D9AF630F1@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: Quote: >>> Hi All-I am running windows xp media center and tried to install ms >>> virtual >>> machine. I can download the program and install, create a virtual >>> machine but >>> can't install an os. I have a HP pavillion running xp media center sp2. >>> The >>> install dvd's I made when I first bought the system. When I tried to use >>> the >>> dvd I keep getting error message "recovery disk not compatable". The xp >>> os I >>> have is legit with key # but I can't get to load in the os. Any ideas. >>> Anything would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Are you trying to install the same OS from the same disks you have on >> your physical machine to the VM? If so, then that shouldn't work at all >> because of the large differences between your physical hardware and the >> emulated hardware. It surly is a violation of license also as your OS >> is probably an OEM version and has no real "install" disks - only >> 'recovery' disks. > > Bummer-any way around it? No. The first two letters in the abbreviation "OEM" stand for "original equipment". Other than the CPU, all of the components in a virtual machine are emulated, hence completely different from the host's physical components... Quote: > If I did buy a retail version of XP Home ed would the VM run on the > machine > running XP media edition? Yes. -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net
My System Specs

01-08-2009	#6 (permalink)
Bo Berglund n/a posts	Re: MS Virtual Machine On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:21:01 -0800, Jon77 <Jon77@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > > >"Grand_Poobah" wrote: > Quote: >> Are you trying to install the same OS from the same disks you have on >> your physical machine to the VM? If so, then that shouldn't work at all >> because of the large differences between your physical hardware and the >> emulated hardware. It surly is a violation of license also as your OS >> is probably an OEM version and has no real "install" disks - only >> 'recovery' disks. >> >> GP >> >> >> ---> Quote: >> > Hi All-I am running windows xp media center and tried to install ms virtual >> > machine. I can download the program and install, create a virtual machine but >> > can't install an os. I have a HP pavillion running xp media center sp2. The >> > install dvd's I made when I first bought the system. When I tried to use the >> > dvd I keep getting error message "recovery disk not compatable". The xp os I >> > have is legit with key # but I can't get to load in the os. Any ideas. >> > Anything would be greatly appreciated. Quote: > Bummer-any way around it? Probably not. The DVD:s you created are intended for recovery install on the physical system which it came with only. THe license gives no right to install on any other hardware whatsoever. To enforce this the installer checks the system it is being installed on for particular "fingerprints" that uniquely identifies the system, like the BIOS and some hardware specifics. If they do not match the installer quits. A virtual machine running in VPC 2007 exposes to any software running in it the emulated hardware, which is quite different from the real hardware of the actual PC. So even though you have installed the VPC2007 system on the HP PC on which the DVD:s were created it won't work anyway since thta hardware is not visible inside a virtual machine. Quote: > If I did buy a retail version of XP Home ed would the > VM run on the machine running xp media edition? If you have a retail version of the install CD for XP Home it would most certainly be possible to create a virtual machine in VPC2007 even if it is running on Media Center edition and to install XP Home inside the virtual machine using that CD. It is just the BIOS locked OEM recovery DVD:s that are not usable. -- Bo Berglund (Sweden)
My System Specs

01-08-2009	#7 (permalink)
Jon77 n/a posts	Re: MS Virtual Machine "Bo Berglund" wrote: Quote: > On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 12:21:01 -0800, Jon77 > <Jon77@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: > > > > > >"Grand_Poobah" wrote: > > Quote: > >> Are you trying to install the same OS from the same disks you have on > >> your physical machine to the VM? If so, then that shouldn't work at all > >> because of the large differences between your physical hardware and the > >> emulated hardware. It surly is a violation of license also as your OS > >> is probably an OEM version and has no real "install" disks - only > >> 'recovery' disks. > >> > >> GP > >> > >> > >> ---> > >> > Hi All-I am running windows xp media center and tried to install ms virtual > >> > machine. I can download the program and install, create a virtual machine but > >> > can't install an os. I have a HP pavillion running xp media center sp2. The > >> > install dvd's I made when I first bought the system. When I tried to use the > >> > dvd I keep getting error message "recovery disk not compatable". The xp os I > >> > have is legit with key # but I can't get to load in the os. Any ideas. > >> > Anything would be greatly appreciated. > Quote: > > Bummer-any way around it? > Probably not. > The DVD:s you created are intended for recovery install on the > physical system which it came with only. THe license gives no right to > install on any other hardware whatsoever. To enforce this the > installer checks the system it is being installed on for particular > "fingerprints" that uniquely identifies the system, like the BIOS and > some hardware specifics. > If they do not match the installer quits. > > A virtual machine running in VPC 2007 exposes to any software running > in it the emulated hardware, which is quite different from the > real hardware of the actual PC. So even though you have installed > the VPC2007 system on the HP PC on which the DVD:s were created it > won't work anyway since thta hardware is not visible inside a virtual > machine. > Quote: > > If I did buy a retail version of XP Home ed would the > > VM run on the machine running xp media edition? > > If you have a retail version of the install CD for XP Home it would > most certainly be possible to create a virtual machine in VPC2007 even > if it is running on Media Center edition and to install XP Home inside > the virtual machine using that CD. > It is just the BIOS locked OEM recovery DVD:s that are not usable. > > -- > > Bo Berglund (Sweden) > Thanks my friend-I'll see if I can find a retail version of XP.
My System Specs

01-08-2009	#8 (permalink)
Bo Berglund n/a posts	Re: MS Virtual Machine On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:06:12 -0800, Jon77 <Jon77@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: Quote: Quote: >> > If I did buy a retail version of XP Home ed would the >> > VM run on the machine running xp media edition? >> >> If you have a retail version of the install CD for XP Home it would >> most certainly be possible to create a virtual machine in VPC2007 even >> if it is running on Media Center edition and to install XP Home inside >> the virtual machine using that CD. >> It is just the BIOS locked OEM recovery DVD:s that are not usable. >> >> -- >> Quote: > Thanks my friend-I'll see if I can find a retail version of XP. You're welcome. I hear the best place nowadays is Ebay -- Bo Berglund (Sweden)
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