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Old 01-09-2009   #1 (permalink)
random11


 
 

Non-Virtual HD Is It Posiible

Basically, I installed Vista on a second hard drive I had. I want to know is
it possible to use that hard drive instead of a virtual hard drive. Right now
I have to reboot my computer to get to vista, so basically I was wondering if
I could use Virtual PC to run my vista that is on a physical drive. If not is
there a way I could, using any program?

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-09-2009   #2 (permalink)
random11


 
 

Non-Virtual HD Is It Posiible

Basically, I installed Vista on a second hard drive I had. I want to know is
it possible to use that hard drive instead of a virtual hard drive. Right now
I have to reboot my computer to get to vista, so basically I was wondering if
I could use Virtual PC to run my vista that is on a physical drive. If not is
there a way I could, using any program?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-09-2009   #3 (permalink)
Bo Berglund


 
 

Re: Non-Virtual HD Is It Posiible

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 21:55:01 -0800, random11
<random11@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Basically, I installed Vista on a second hard drive I had. I want to know is
>it possible to use that hard drive instead of a virtual hard drive. Right now
>I have to reboot my computer to get to vista, so basically I was wondering if
>I could use Virtual PC to run my vista that is on a physical drive. If not is
>there a way I could, using any program?
No, VPC virtual machines use virtual hard drives, which on the host
are just normal files. VPC2007 cannot directly use a physical hard
drive for running a machine.

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-09-2009   #4 (permalink)
random11


 
 

Re: Non-Virtual HD Is It Posiible

> No, VPC virtual machines use virtual hard drives, which on the host
Quote:

> are just normal files. VPC2007 cannot directly use a physical hard
> drive for running a machine.
Is there a program that can?
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Old 01-09-2009   #5 (permalink)
Steve Jain [MVP]


 
 

Re: Non-Virtual HD Is It Posiible

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 01:10:01 -0800, random11
<random11@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

>> No, VPC virtual machines use virtual hard drives, which on the host
>> are just normal files. VPC2007 cannot directly use a physical hard
>> drive for running a machine.
>
>Is there a program that can?
VPC can as well as others, but you're going to run into major issues
the first time you boot.
All of the hardware is different in a VM than your actual physical
setup, except the CPU.
You may need to repair you Windows installation to get it to boot
properly.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-09-2009   #6 (permalink)
Bo Berglund


 
 

Re: Non-Virtual HD Is It Posiible

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 01:10:01 -0800, random11
<random11@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:
Quote:

>> No, VPC virtual machines use virtual hard drives, which on the host
>> are just normal files. VPC2007 cannot directly use a physical hard
>> drive for running a machine.
>
>Is there a program that can?
The program for virtualization is VPC2007 but it cannot do this....
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Bo Berglund (Sweden)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-09-2009   #7 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP]


 
 

Re: Non-Virtual HD Is It Posiible

"Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
news:u13fm4prv54aeqd27mve6ug05qjl1sudoi@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>> VPC2007 cannot directly use a physical hard drive for running a machine.
>>
>>Is there a program that can?
>
> VPC can as well as others
I didn't know that... How do you get a VM to use a physical hard disk
instead of a virtual hard disk...?


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Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-09-2009   #8 (permalink)
Steve Jain [MVP]


 
 

Re: Non-Virtual HD Is It Posiible

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:53:15 -0000, "Mark Rae [MVP]"
<mark@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>"Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
>news:u13fm4prv54aeqd27mve6ug05qjl1sudoi@xxxxxx
>
Quote:
Quote:

>>>> VPC2007 cannot directly use a physical hard drive for running a machine.
>>>
>>>Is there a program that can?
>>
>> VPC can as well as others
>
>I didn't know that... How do you get a VM to use a physical hard disk
>instead of a virtual hard disk...?
Well, you used to be able do this with a linked drive. I've done it
before.
Well, never mind. I just re-read the release notes for SP1 and you
can created a VHD for a linked disk, you just can't use it in a
VM...not sure what the point of being able to create a linked disk is
in the first place then.

VM Ware can use a physical disk.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-09-2009   #9 (permalink)
Bo Berglund


 
 

Re: Non-Virtual HD Is It Posiible

On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:27:58 -0800, "Steve Jain [MVP]"
<noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote:
Quote:

>On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 17:53:15 -0000, "Mark Rae [MVP]"
><mark@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

>>"Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
>>news:u13fm4prv54aeqd27mve6ug05qjl1sudoi@xxxxxx
>>
Quote:

>>>>> VPC2007 cannot directly use a physical hard drive for running a machine.
>>>>
>>>>Is there a program that can?
>>>
>>> VPC can as well as others
>>
>>I didn't know that... How do you get a VM to use a physical hard disk
>>instead of a virtual hard disk...?
>
>Well, you used to be able do this with a linked drive. I've done it
>before.
>Well, never mind. I just re-read the release notes for SP1 and you
>can created a VHD for a linked disk, you just can't use it in a
>VM...not sure what the point of being able to create a linked disk is
>in the first place then.
>
I read tha by creating a linked disk it would enable you in an already
installed virtual machine to copy the contents of the physical disk to
a virtual disk this way. But it won't boot from the linked disk.

Seems like a bad way to do p2v when one could instead use Acronis with
Universal restore to do it with corrections for hardware differences
in the same process...

--

Bo Berglund (Sweden)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-09-2009   #10 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP]


 
 

Re: Non-Virtual HD Is It Posiible

"Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
news:6d5fm4584t19oih67qcck1d7os8e4gj2pd@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>>>> VPC2007 cannot directly use a physical hard drive for running a
>>>>> machine.
>>>>
>>>>Is there a program that can?
>>>
>>> VPC can as well as others
>>
>>I didn't know that... How do you get a VM to use a physical hard disk
>>instead of a virtual hard disk...?
>
> Well, you used to be able do this with a linked drive. I've done it
> before.
OK.
Quote:

> Well, never mind. I just re-read the release notes for SP1 and you
> can create a VHD for a linked disk, you just can't use it in a
> VM...not sure what the point of being able to create a linked disk is
> in the first place then.
:-) Certainly seems a bit pointless...
Quote:

> VM Ware can use a physical disk.
Indeed.


--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

My System SpecsSystem Spec
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