Vista - Re: 3d acceleration

01-21-2009

On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:03:01 -0800, theclyburns
<theclyburns@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

>I installed virtual pc on my win xp pro 64 computer so that i could install
>win 98 in order to play games that are only compatible with win 98. However,
>some of the games require 3d acceleration and will not function. I have a
>great graphics setup on my computer but for some reason virtual pc will not
>access it apparently. how do i get virtual pc to access it?

No VM solution will give you direct access to your physical GPU.

VPC provides no 3d hardware acceleration.
VMWare provides limited DX9 support, you could try that.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/

01-21-2009

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Quote:

> I installed virtual pc on my win xp pro 64 computer so that i could install
> win 98 in order to play games that are only compatible with win 98. However,
> some of the games require 3d acceleration and will not function. I have a
> great graphics setup on my computer but for some reason virtual pc will not
> access it apparently. how do i get virtual pc to access it?

You don't. Your virtual PC uses emulated hardware and the video 'card'
is only a Trio S3 with 8Mb of RAM. It is possible to increase the RAM
to 16Mb by editing the VMC file, but that still won't get you 3d
acceleration.

You have to think of a virtual PC as a completely separate physical machine.

GP

01-21-2009

"theclyburns" <theclyburns@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:45037DCB-30FD-4804-B1A6-7CAEC25BBB04@xxxxxx

Quote:

> I installed Virtual PC on my Win XP Pro 64 computer so that I could
> install
> Win 98 in order to play games that are only compatible with Win 98.
> However,
> some of the games require 3D acceleration and will not function. I have a
> great graphics setup on my computer but for some reason Virtual PC will
> not
> access it apparently.

The reason is that, apart from the CPU, all virtual hardware inside a
virtual machine is emulated - the host machine's physical hardware is
completely irrelevant:
http://vpc.visualwin.com/ngfaq.aspx#8

Quote:

> How do I get Virtual PC to access it?

You can't...

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

01-22-2009

On Jan 21, 2:03*pm, theclyburns
<theclybu...@xxxxxx> wrote:

Quote:

> I installed virtual pc on my win xp pro 64 computer so that i could install
> win 98 in order to play games that are only compatible with win 98. However,
> some of the games require 3d acceleration and will not function. I have a
> great graphics setup on my computer but for some reason virtual pc will not
> access it apparently. how do i get virtual pc to access it?

Vmware 6.5 3D Support is actually pretty good if you have a fast CPU
and a fast GPU. It's not perfect but it's the best out there right
now. (If your running Vmware on Windows though your still better off
running the game in host Windows).

VirtualBox supports OpenGL acceleration but not Direct3D. (Direct3D
support will be in a future release)

The above two products only support D3D or OGL acceleration in Windows
XP+ guest. So with 9x your SOL unless you use software video emulation
like Swiftshader.

01-23-2009

Steve Jain [MVP] wrote:

Quote:

> On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:03:01 -0800, theclyburns
> <theclyburns@xxxxxx> wrote:
>

Quote:

>> I installed virtual pc on my win xp pro 64 computer so that i could install
>> win 98 in order to play games that are only compatible with win 98. However,
>> some of the games require 3d acceleration and will not function. I have a
>> great graphics setup on my computer but for some reason virtual pc will not
>> access it apparently. how do i get virtual pc to access it?

>
> No VM solution will give you direct access to your physical GPU.
>
> VPC provides no 3d hardware acceleration.
> VMWare provides limited DX9 support, you could try that.
>

01-21-2009	#1 (permalink)
Steve Jain [MVP] n/a posts	Re: 3d acceleration On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:03:01 -0800, theclyburns <theclyburns@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >I installed virtual pc on my win xp pro 64 computer so that i could install >win 98 in order to play games that are only compatible with win 98. However, >some of the games require 3d acceleration and will not function. I have a >great graphics setup on my computer but for some reason virtual pc will not >access it apparently. how do i get virtual pc to access it? No VM solution will give you direct access to your physical GPU. VPC provides no 3d hardware acceleration. VMWare provides limited DX9 support, you could try that. -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/
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01-21-2009	#2 (permalink)
Grand_Poobah n/a posts	Re: 3d acceleration ---> Quote: > I installed virtual pc on my win xp pro 64 computer so that i could install > win 98 in order to play games that are only compatible with win 98. However, > some of the games require 3d acceleration and will not function. I have a > great graphics setup on my computer but for some reason virtual pc will not > access it apparently. how do i get virtual pc to access it? You don't. Your virtual PC uses emulated hardware and the video 'card' is only a Trio S3 with 8Mb of RAM. It is possible to increase the RAM to 16Mb by editing the VMC file, but that still won't get you 3d acceleration. You have to think of a virtual PC as a completely separate physical machine. GP
My System Specs

01-21-2009	#3 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP] n/a posts	Re: 3D acceleration "theclyburns" <theclyburns@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:45037DCB-30FD-4804-B1A6-7CAEC25BBB04@xxxxxx Quote: > I installed Virtual PC on my Win XP Pro 64 computer so that I could > install > Win 98 in order to play games that are only compatible with Win 98. > However, > some of the games require 3D acceleration and will not function. I have a > great graphics setup on my computer but for some reason Virtual PC will > not > access it apparently. The reason is that, apart from the CPU, all virtual hardware inside a virtual machine is emulated - the host machine's physical hardware is completely irrelevant: http://vpc.visualwin.com/ngfaq.aspx#8 Quote: > How do I get Virtual PC to access it? You can't... -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net
My System Specs

01-22-2009	#4 (permalink)
ronald.phillips n/a posts	Re: 3d acceleration On Jan 21, 2:03*pm, theclyburns <theclybu...@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > I installed virtual pc on my win xp pro 64 computer so that i could install > win 98 in order to play games that are only compatible with win 98. However, > some of the games require 3d acceleration and will not function. I have a > great graphics setup on my computer but for some reason virtual pc will not > access it apparently. how do i get virtual pc to access it? Vmware 6.5 3D Support is actually pretty good if you have a fast CPU and a fast GPU. It's not perfect but it's the best out there right now. (If your running Vmware on Windows though your still better off running the game in host Windows). VirtualBox supports OpenGL acceleration but not Direct3D. (Direct3D support will be in a future release) The above two products only support D3D or OGL acceleration in Windows XP+ guest. So with 9x your SOL unless you use software video emulation like Swiftshader.
My System Specs

01-23-2009	#5 (permalink)
asdfgh n/a posts	Re: 3d acceleration Steve Jain [MVP] wrote: Quote: > On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:03:01 -0800, theclyburns > <theclyburns@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >> I installed virtual pc on my win xp pro 64 computer so that i could install >> win 98 in order to play games that are only compatible with win 98. However, >> some of the games require 3d acceleration and will not function. I have a >> great graphics setup on my computer but for some reason virtual pc will not >> access it apparently. how do i get virtual pc to access it? > > No VM solution will give you direct access to your physical GPU. > > VPC provides no 3d hardware acceleration. > VMWare provides limited DX9 support, you could try that. >
My System Specs

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