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Old 01-25-2009   #1 (permalink)
Markus Betz


 
 

VPC 2007 maximum RAM

Hello,

currently I use a PC with 2 GB RAM and Windows 2000 as the host OS.
Sometimes I get the problem that it lacks needed RAM to start another VM.

I'd like to buy a new and faster PC with 4 GB RAM and Windows XP 32-bit.
XP can handle 3 GB or a bit more. Can VPC handle more than 2 GB (total)?

Why I ask: I know that VPC runs all VMs in a single process. A process
under Windows XP normally cannot allocate more than 2 GB of RAM, even if
more real RAM is available. But VPC may be different since its used
memory does not appear in the task manager's process list.

Thanks in advance,
Markus

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Old 01-25-2009   #2 (permalink)


Vista x64 Ultimate SP2, Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Re: VPC 2007 maximum RAM

Hello Markus,

You might consider using a 64-bit OS as the host instead so that you can have and use more than 3.2 GB of RAM with. VPC will only run a 32-bit OS VM, so it will never use more than 3.2 GB per VM if it is available from the host.

Hope this helps,
Shawn

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Markus Betz View Post
Hello,

currently I use a PC with 2 GB RAM and Windows 2000 as the host OS.
Sometimes I get the problem that it lacks needed RAM to start another VM.

I'd like to buy a new and faster PC with 4 GB RAM and Windows XP 32-bit.
XP can handle 3 GB or a bit more. Can VPC handle more than 2 GB (total)?

Why I ask: I know that VPC runs all VMs in a single process. A process
under Windows XP normally cannot allocate more than 2 GB of RAM, even if
more real RAM is available. But VPC may be different since its used
memory does not appear in the task manager's process list.

Thanks in advance,
Markus
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 01-25-2009   #3 (permalink)
Bob Campbell


 
 

Re: VPC 2007 maximum RAM

"Brink" <guest@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
news:ecbe2a7b42105500b438455e8eb65b22@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
Quote:

> You might consider using a 64-bit OS as the host instead so that you
> can have and use more than 3.2 GB of RAM with. VPC will only run a
> 32-bit OS VM, so it will never use more than 3.2 GB per VM if it is
> available from the host.
I get 3712 MB as the max available amount in each VM. This shows as 3.62
GB in Windows 7 Beta 32 bit in a VM.

I have Vista 64 as the host and 8 GB RAM.

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Old 01-25-2009   #4 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP]


 
 

Re: VPC 2007 maximum RAM

"Bob Campbell" <bob@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:HeOdncRy17hmYOHUnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I get 3712 MB as the max available amount in each VM.
Yep, which is (pretty much) the maximum amount of RAM that a 32-bit OS can
use...
Quote:

> This shows as 3.62GB in Windows 7 Beta 32 bit in a VM.
Which is the same thing - 3712 / 1024 = 3.62
Quote:

> I have Vista 64 as the host and 8 GB RAM.
Me too...


--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

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Old 01-26-2009   #5 (permalink)
ronald.phillips


 
 

Re: VPC 2007 maximum RAM

On Jan 25, 7:03*pm, "Bob Campbell" <b...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> "Brink" <gu...@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ecbe2a7b42105500b438455e8eb65b22@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
>
Quote:

> > You might consider using a 64-bit OS as the host instead so that you
> > can have and use more than 3.2 GB of RAM with. VPC will only run a
> > 32-bit OS VM, so it will never use more than 3.2 GB per VM if it is
> > available from the host.
>
> I get 3712 MB as the max available amount in each VM. * This shows as 3..62
> GB in Windows 7 Beta 32 bit in a VM.
>
> I have Vista 64 as the host and 8 GB RAM.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/32-bi...AM-74239.shtml

"With SP1, Windows Vista will report the amount of system memory
installed rather than report the amount of system memory available to
the OS. Therefore 32-bit systems equipped with 4GB of RAM will report
all 4BG in many places throughout the OS, such as the System Control
Panel. However, this behavior is dependent on having a compatible
BIOS, so not all users may notice this change", Microsoft revealed.

Probably the same for Windows 7.
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Old 01-26-2009   #6 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: VPC 2007 maximum RAM

>Probably the same for Windows 7.

It is.

--
Bob Comer


On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 21:22:58 -0800 (PST), ronald.phillips@xxxxxx
wrote:
Quote:

>On Jan 25, 7:03*pm, "Bob Campbell" <b...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>> "Brink" <gu...@xxxxxx-email.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:ecbe2a7b42105500b438455e8eb65b22@xxxxxx-gateway.com...
>>
Quote:

>> > You might consider using a 64-bit OS as the host instead so that you
>> > can have and use more than 3.2 GB of RAM with. VPC will only run a
>> > 32-bit OS VM, so it will never use more than 3.2 GB per VM if it is
>> > available from the host.
>>
>> I get 3712 MB as the max available amount in each VM. * This shows as 3.62
>> GB in Windows 7 Beta 32 bit in a VM.
>>
>> I have Vista 64 as the host and 8 GB RAM.
>
>http://news.softpedia.com/news/32-bi...AM-74239.shtml
>
>"With SP1, Windows Vista will report the amount of system memory
>installed rather than report the amount of system memory available to
>the OS. Therefore 32-bit systems equipped with 4GB of RAM will report
>all 4BG in many places throughout the OS, such as the System Control
>Panel. However, this behavior is dependent on having a compatible
>BIOS, so not all users may notice this change", Microsoft revealed.
>
>Probably the same for Windows 7.
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Old 01-27-2009   #7 (permalink)
Markus Betz


 
 

Re: VPC 2007 maximum RAM

Brink wrote:
Quote:

> Hello Markus,
>
> You might consider using a 64-bit OS as the host ...
Ok, I could do that if it is necessary. My question was about a 32-bit
host OS to get around extra cost.

Original question:
Given a PC with 4 GB RAM + Windows XP 32-bit host OS + VPC 2007.
XP can handle 3 GB or a bit more.
Can VPC handle more than 2 GB (total sum of all VMs)?

Is there anyone who tried this out?

Markus
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Old 01-27-2009   #8 (permalink)
Steve Jain [MVP]


 
 

Re: VPC 2007 maximum RAM

On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:12:15 +0100, Markus Betz <dd02@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Brink wrote:
Quote:

>> Hello Markus,
>>
>> You might consider using a 64-bit OS as the host ...
>
>Ok, I could do that if it is necessary. My question was about a 32-bit
>host OS to get around extra cost.
>
>Original question:
> Given a PC with 4 GB RAM + Windows XP 32-bit host OS + VPC 2007.
> XP can handle 3 GB or a bit more.
> Can VPC handle more than 2 GB (total sum of all VMs)?
Yes, VPC can handle more than 2GB. Each VM can have 3.7GB assigned to
it if is available on the the host system. VPC can handle over 7GB
for VMs on an 8GB x64 system.
Quote:

>
>Is there anyone who tried this out?
Yes, I have.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
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Old 01-27-2009   #9 (permalink)
Markus Betz


 
 

Re: VPC 2007 maximum RAM

Steve Jain [MVP] wrote:
Quote:

> On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:12:15 +0100, Markus Betz <dd02@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Brink wrote:
Quote:

>>> Hello Markus,
>>>
>>> You might consider using a 64-bit OS as the host ...
>> Ok, I could do that if it is necessary. My question was about a 32-bit
>> host OS to get around extra cost.
>>
>> Original question:
>> Given a PC with 4 GB RAM + Windows XP 32-bit host OS + VPC 2007.
>> XP can handle 3 GB or a bit more.
>> Can VPC handle more than 2 GB (total sum of all VMs)?
>
> Yes, VPC can handle more than 2GB. Each VM can have 3.7GB assigned to
> it if is available on the the host system. VPC can handle over 7GB
> for VMs on an 8GB x64 system.
>
Quote:

>> Is there anyone who tried this out?
>
> Yes, I have.
That's what I wanted to know. Thank you.

Markus
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