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| | mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07 running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" in my XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. Problem is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if there is in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., it seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't figure it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it? |
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| | Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:18:00 -0800, nebulachapin <nebulachapin@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07 >running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" in my >XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. Problem >is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if there is >in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., it >seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't figure >it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it? remote host via VPN??? In that case most certainly it won't work because VPN usually by itself (depends on type of VPN) will block all other network accesses on the VPN guest as long as the tunnel is up. -- Bo Berglund (Sweden) |
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| | Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop In article <8A10D19C-6D52-42D4-9EDC-C2079DD761A9@xxxxxx>, nebulachapin@xxxxxx says... Quote: > > Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07 > running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" in my > XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. Problem > is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if there is > in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., it > seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't figure > it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it? I bet it is matter of proper network setting of guest, but I am not familiar with it. Supposing you know you should not use NAT. does have running netbios services and opened ports ? incoming UDP 137 + 138, TCP 139 maybe also 135, not sure. try install simple http server, if able to reach it, e.g my favorite abyss by Aprelium. -- Poutnik |
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| | Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop I am not sure I understood you correctly. If I am simply reiterating what you said, then my apologies, but the I am not up on the proper vernacular and lingo. I have VPN running on my virtual pc and have mapped network drives there that show up under "network drives". But I want to be able to see those or map then to my real computer (host I presume). It seems to me that you should be able to do this, but are you saying that somehow VPN is not allowing for me to map them? Cheers Paul "Bo Berglund" wrote: Quote: > On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:18:00 -0800, nebulachapin > <nebulachapin@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: > >Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07 > >running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" in my > >XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. Problem > >is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if there is > >in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., it > >seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't figure > >it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it? > Do you mean mapping drives which are accessed from the VPN guest on a > remote host via VPN??? In that case most certainly it won't work > because VPN usually by itself (depends on type of VPN) will block all > other network accesses on the VPN guest as long as the tunnel is up. > > -- > > Bo Berglund (Sweden) > |
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| | Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:58:12 -0800, nebulachapin <nebulachapin@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > >"Bo Berglund" wrote: > Quote: >> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:18:00 -0800, nebulachapin >> <nebulachapin@xxxxxx> wrote: >> Quote: >> >Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07 >> >running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" in my >> >XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. Problem >> >is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if there is >> >in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., it >> >seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't figure >> >it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it? >> Do you mean mapping drives which are accessed from the VPN guest on a >> remote host via VPN??? In that case most certainly it won't work >> because VPN usually by itself (depends on type of VPN) will block all >> other network accesses on the VPN guest as long as the tunnel is up. >> Quote: > >I am not sure I understood you correctly. If I am simply reiterating what >you said, then >my apologies, but the I am not up on the proper vernacular and lingo. > >I have VPN running on my virtual pc and have mapped network drives there >that show >up under "network drives". But I want to be able to see those or map then to >my >real computer (host I presume). It seems to me that you should be able to do >this, >but are you saying that somehow VPN is not allowing for me to map them? > >Cheers >Paul - You have a virtual machine running WinXP - This XP guest has VPN software running (Cisco or AT&T or what?) - With VPN software a connection has been made to a remote server - While the VPN tunnel is up you see shares on the remote server which are mapped to drive letters on the guest - Now you want to re-share these mapped shares as new shares so they will be available also on the host? This will not work, in fact even if there was no VPN involved Windows would not allow you to first map a drive letter to a server share and then share that drive letter out for a third PC to map a drive letter on its own against it. But with a VPN tunnel active you will probably see that the entire PC where the tunnel is active is isolated from the local network neighborhood so you cannot even see shares on other PC:s in the same local network until you close the tunnel. This behaviour might depend on the particular VPN software you use, but I know for a fact that the Cisco VPN works this way because I have been a Cisco user for many years. Whenever my laptop hooks up the VPN tunnel it disappears from the local network. All connections I might have established to other local PC:s via the LAN completely disappear... -- Bo Berglund (Sweden) |
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| | Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop "Poutnik" <poutnikletspamisoutofabox@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:MPG.23f5fc4f7c5a72db98973c@xxxxxx Quote: > In article <8A10D19C-6D52-42D4-9EDC-C2079DD761A9@xxxxxx>, > nebulachapin@xxxxxx says... Quote: >> >> Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07 >> running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" >> in my >> XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. >> Problem >> is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if there >> is >> in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., >> it >> seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't >> figure >> it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it? Did file sharing between the guest machine and the host work before you installed the VPN client (or did you not try it then)? |
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| | Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop "Bill Grant" <not.available@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eKr$aSNiJHA.1252@xxxxxx Quote: > > > "Poutnik" <poutnikletspamisoutofabox@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:MPG.23f5fc4f7c5a72db98973c@xxxxxx Quote: >> In article <8A10D19C-6D52-42D4-9EDC-C2079DD761A9@xxxxxx>, >> nebulachapin@xxxxxx says... Quote: >>> >>> Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07 >>> running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" >>> in my >>> XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. >>> Problem >>> is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if >>> there is >>> in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., >>> it >>> seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't >>> figure >>> it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it? > > Did file sharing between the guest machine and the host work before > you installed the VPN client (or did you not try it then)? |
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| | Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop Thanks Bo. Yes you have completely understood my situation. I am using Cisco. This is not terrible news, but it is disappointing. VPN doesnt run on xp64 as you probably know, so the VPC was helpful in that regard. But I need to manipulate a large number of files using software installed on the xp64 machine. Copying files back and forth is not productive...so I'll have to install the software suite again on the virtual machine, which is a pain plus I only have a license to install the software on two machines, so I'd be wasting both installations on one machine... "Bo Berglund" wrote: Quote: > On Fri, 6 Feb 2009 10:58:12 -0800, nebulachapin > <nebulachapin@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > > > >"Bo Berglund" wrote: > > Quote: > >> On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 21:18:00 -0800, nebulachapin > >> <nebulachapin@xxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> >Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07 > >> >running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" in my > >> >XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. Problem > >> >is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if there is > >> >in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., it > >> >seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't figure > >> >it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it? > >> > >> Do you mean mapping drives which are accessed from the VPN guest on a > >> remote host via VPN??? In that case most certainly it won't work > >> because VPN usually by itself (depends on type of VPN) will block all > >> other network accesses on the VPN guest as long as the tunnel is up. > >> Quote: > > > >I am not sure I understood you correctly. If I am simply reiterating what > >you said, then > >my apologies, but the I am not up on the proper vernacular and lingo. > > > >I have VPN running on my virtual pc and have mapped network drives there > >that show > >up under "network drives". But I want to be able to see those or map then to > >my > >real computer (host I presume). It seems to me that you should be able to do > >this, > >but are you saying that somehow VPN is not allowing for me to map them? > > > >Cheers > >Paul > As I understand you the situation is like this: > - You have a virtual machine running WinXP > - This XP guest has VPN software running (Cisco or AT&T or what?) > - With VPN software a connection has been made to a remote server > - While the VPN tunnel is up you see shares on the remote server > which are mapped to drive letters on the guest > - Now you want to re-share these mapped shares as new shares so they > will be available also on the host? > > This will not work, in fact even if there was no VPN involved Windows > would not allow you to first map a drive letter to a server share and > then share that drive letter out for a third PC to map a drive letter > on its own against it. > > But with a VPN tunnel active you will probably see that the entire PC > where the tunnel is active is isolated from the local network > neighborhood so you cannot even see shares on other PC:s in the same > local network until you close the tunnel. > This behaviour might depend on the particular VPN software you use, > but I know for a fact that the Cisco VPN works this way because I have > been a Cisco user for many years. Whenever my laptop hooks up the VPN > tunnel it disappears from the local network. All connections I might > have established to other local PC:s via the LAN completely > disappear... > > -- > > Bo Berglund (Sweden) > |
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| | Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop In article <458B769C-F301-4EFD-9805-447799D69CEB@xxxxxx>, nebulachapin@xxxxxx says... Quote: > > Thanks Bo. > > Yes you have completely understood my situation. I am using Cisco. This is > not terrible news, but it is disappointing. VPN doesnt run on xp64 as you > probably > know, so the VPC was helpful in that regard. But I need to manipulate a large > number of files using software installed on the xp64 machine. Copying files > back and forth is not productive...so I'll have to install the software > suite again > on the virtual machine, which is a pain plus I only have a license to > install the > software on two machines, so I'd be wasting both installations on one > machine... > I use Vista64 Home Premium SP1 as host, running VPC2007 SP1. I run Win2000 as guest, with AT&T VPN client (v6.9, 32b only) to connect to my job. I have set a bunch of mapped network drives on guest: remote systems from job, seamlessly accessible through VPN and shared folder(s) from host, set as R/W in VM config ( VM has to be running when set this.) If I need documents from a job accessible in host, I simply copy it ( within guest OS ) from remote network folder to host network folder. Then it is placed in host disk and both host and guest have access to it. -- Poutnik |
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| | Re: mapping network drives in VPC to my desktop On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 14:34:58 +1100, "Bill Grant" <not.available@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > > >"Bill Grant" <not.available@xxxxxx> wrote in message >news:eKr$aSNiJHA.1252@xxxxxx Quote: >> >> >> "Poutnik" <poutnikletspamisoutofabox@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:MPG.23f5fc4f7c5a72db98973c@xxxxxx Quote: >>> In article <8A10D19C-6D52-42D4-9EDC-C2079DD761A9@xxxxxx>, >>> nebulachapin@xxxxxx says... >>>> >>>> Here is my problem. I can only run VPN in 32 bit mode. I have MS VPC 07 >>>> running XP32 on my XP64 system. I map network drives (say "X: Y: or Z:" >>>> in my >>>> XP32 as usual, but I need to access those drives on my XP64 system. >>>> Problem >>>> is that my XP64 can't "see" these drives at all. I am wondering if >>>> there is >>>> in fact no way for this to work. As a linux user, mounting drives etc., >>>> it >>>> seems to me that you should be able to do this, but in windows I can't >>>> figure >>>> it out. Is it possible to do this, and if so, how do I do it? >>> >> >> Did file sharing between the guest machine and the host work before >> you installed the VPN client (or did you not try it then)? > Have you tried sharing folders rather than drives? (using Cisco VPN) to the remote server. Then he wants to map remote server shares to drive letters in the guest (this is possible). Then he wants to share these drive letters (or folders within) in the guest in such a way that they will be accessible from the *host*. Finally he wants to use software on the host to work with the files on the remote server using this double mapping scheme. AFIK this double sharing is not even possible if there was no VPN involved, but with Cisco VPN the guest will be totally disconnected from the local network as long as the tunnel to the remote server is active (to protect the remote server from illegal accesses, I believe). So the bottom line is that the VPN system will disable all networking from the guest except the tunnel itself and so he will have no access to the guest from the host. Other VPN software may work differently in regard to the network isolation, for example Microsoft PPTP tunneling does not do this. But still the double sharing is not possible, I believe. -- Bo Berglund (Sweden) |
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