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02-12-2009
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| | Virtual PC If VM does not see the USB ports, it makes the software unusable. Everything these days is USB! Why, is it difficult to access the ports from the XP guest? |
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02-13-2009
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| | Re: Virtual PC On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:34:01 -0800, RayZef <RayZef@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >If VM does not see the USB ports, it makes the software unusable. Everything >these days is USB! Why, is it difficult to access the ports from the XP >guest? latest virtualization systems do they support this... You have to use other products like VMWare instead. -- Bo Berglund (Sweden) |
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02-13-2009
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| | Re: Virtual PC Bo Berglund wrote: Quote: > On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:34:01 -0800, RayZef > <RayZef@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>If VM does not see the USB ports, it makes the software unusable. Everything >>these days is USB! Why, is it difficult to access the ports from the XP >>guest? > Microsoft has in its wisdom decided against it. Not even in the ir > latest virtualization systems do they support this... > You have to use other products like VMWare instead. http://www.microsoft.com/servers/hyp...r/default.mspx It's free but I haven't gotten around to playing with it yet. Don't have another host with better hardware to test it. From only a couple articles, it appears not even Hyper-V supports USB devices although it does demand hardware-assisted virtualization support in the CPU. Maybe it's a problem of just which VM gets to control the USB device since you can obviously have more than one VM running concurrently. Yet VMWare Server (also free) supports USB devices. So the USB limitation is an arbitrary restriction in the Microsoft products. Rayzef never bothered to mention WHAT type of USB device he was asking about. For USB drives, the guest sees them as simply a mass storage device. It doesn't know they are USB connected. From other posts, VPC supports pass-through of storage devices, just like it does for the mouse and keyboard. However, as I recall, the USB drive must already be attached and ready in the host OS before you start the guest OS. The USB drive must be ready in the host OS before the virtual drive in the VM tries to access it. |
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02-13-2009
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| | Re: Virtual PC "VanguardLH" <V@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:gn3p0r$pre$1@xxxxxx Quote: > Maybe it's a problem of just which VM gets to control the USB device > since you can obviously have more than one VM running concurrently. more important... Quote: > Yet VMWare Server (also free) supports USB devices. (for Mac), though the last two aren't free... So does VirtualBox. Quote: > So the USB limitation is an arbitrary restriction in the Microsoft > products. I'm not sure if this is still a supported product. Doesn't run on Macs with Intel processors either... -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net |
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02-13-2009
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| | Re: Virtual PC On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:43:05 -0000, "Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >"VanguardLH" <V@xxxxxx> wrote in message >news:gn3p0r$pre$1@xxxxxx > Quote: >> Maybe it's a problem of just which VM gets to control the USB device >> since you can obviously have more than one VM running concurrently. >According to Microsoft, it's simply that other features have been considered >more important... > > Quote: >> Yet VMWare Server (also free) supports USB devices. >As does VMWare Player (also free), and VMWare Workstation and VWMare Fusion >(for Mac), though the last two aren't free... So does VirtualBox. > -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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02-13-2009
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| | Re: Virtual PC On Feb 13, 12:56*pm, "Steve Jain [MVP]" <norepl...@-.essjae.com> wrote: Quote: > On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:43:05 -0000, "Mark Rae [MVP]" > > > > <m...@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > >"VanguardLH" <V...@xxxxxx> wrote in message > >news:gn3p0r$pre$1@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: > >> Maybe it's a problem of just which VM gets to control the USB device > >> since you can obviously have more than one VM running concurrently. Quote: > >According to Microsoft, it's simply that other features have been considered > >more important... Quote: Quote: > >> Yet VMWare Server (also free) supports USB devices. Quote: > >As does VMWare Player (also free), and VMWare Workstation and VWMare Fusion > >(for Mac), though the last two aren't free... So does VirtualBox. > And VMWare's most expensive VM offering, ESX, does not support USB. > > -- > Cheers, > Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVPhttp://vpc.essjae.com/ Vmotion/DRS are more important to Vmware in this product than USB support for a server. |
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02-13-2009
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| | Re: Virtual PC On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:18:16 -0800 (PST), ronald.phillips@xxxxxx wrote: Quote: >On Feb 13, 12:56*pm, "Steve Jain [MVP]" <norepl...@-.essjae.com> >wrote: Quote: >> On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:43:05 -0000, "Mark Rae [MVP]" >> >> >> >> <m...@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >> >"VanguardLH" <V...@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> >news:gn3p0r$pre$1@xxxxxx Quote: >> >> Maybe it's a problem of just which VM gets to control the USB device >> >> since you can obviously have more than one VM running concurrently. Quote: >> >According to Microsoft, it's simply that other features have been considered >> >more important... Quote: >> >> Yet VMWare Server (also free) supports USB devices. Quote: >> >As does VMWare Player (also free), and VMWare Workstation and VWMare Fusion >> >(for Mac), though the last two aren't free... So does VirtualBox. >> And VMWare's most expensive VM offering, ESX, does not support USB. >> >> -- >> Cheers, >> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVPhttp://vpc.essjae.com/ > >Vmotion/DRS are more important to Vmware in this product than USB >support for a server. -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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02-13-2009
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| | Re: Virtual PC On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:33:05 -0600, VanguardLH <V@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >ronald.phillips@xxxxxx wrote: > Quote: >> Steve Jain wrote: Quote: >>> >>> Mark Rae wrote: >>>> >>>> VanguardLH wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yet VMWare Server (also free) supports USB devices. >>>> >>>> As does VMWare Player (also free), and VMWare Workstation and >>>> VWMare Fusion (for Mac), though the last two aren't free... So does >>>> VirtualBox. >>> >>> And VMWare's most expensive VM offering, ESX, does not support USB. >> Vmotion/DRS are more important to Vmware in this product than USB >> support for a server. >I also believe it has to do with the target market for a product. ESX >is not sold to end users. It is used for virtualized servers where >users don't have access to the console (display, keyboard, mouse) and >where "external" drives use NAS, not USB, and printers are networked, >not connected via USB cables. After all, why does a web server, file >server, or SQL server need USB support? Users shouldn't be using those >hosts, virtualized or real. greatest," doesn't either. That's the point I was making. -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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02-13-2009
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| | Re: Virtual PC RayZef wrote: Quote: > If VM does not see the USB ports, it makes the software unusable. Everything > these days is USB! Why, is it difficult to access the ports from the XP > guest? -- <<//--------------------\\>> Van Chocstraw Quote: Quote: >>\\--------------------//<< |
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02-13-2009
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| | Re: Virtual PC Sincere thanks for all the replies, I was hopeing to use a USB scanner, which works ubder XP but not Vista. I will have a read of the other VM's available and see if I can use one on my desktop. Thanks again Ray Z "Steve Jain [MVP]" wrote: Quote: > On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:33:05 -0600, VanguardLH <V@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: > >ronald.phillips@xxxxxx wrote: > > Quote: > >> Steve Jain wrote: > >>> > >>> Mark Rae wrote: > >>>> > >>>> VanguardLH wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Yet VMWare Server (also free) supports USB devices. > >>>> > >>>> As does VMWare Player (also free), and VMWare Workstation and > >>>> VWMare Fusion (for Mac), though the last two aren't free... So does > >>>> VirtualBox. > >>> > >>> And VMWare's most expensive VM offering, ESX, does not support USB. > >> > >> Vmotion/DRS are more important to Vmware in this product than USB > >> support for a server. > >I also believe it has to do with the target market for a product. ESX > >is not sold to end users. It is used for virtualized servers where > >users don't have access to the console (display, keyboard, mouse) and > >where "external" drives use NAS, not USB, and printers are networked, > >not connected via USB cables. After all, why does a web server, file > >server, or SQL server need USB support? Users shouldn't be using those > >hosts, virtualized or real. > Yes, which are the same reasons that Hyper-V, "MS latest and > greatest," doesn't either. That's the point I was making. > > -- > Cheers, > Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP > http://vpc.essjae.com/ > |
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