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Old 03-06-2009   #1 (permalink)
Theslaz


 
 

Virtual PC and Vmware Player

Is it possible to run Vmware Player using Virtual PC's files. When
starting Vmware Player; I have told it to open Virtual PC's "VMC" file
and it just hangs at the opening screen.

Is it possible to run a Virtual program with "Other" files?

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Old 03-06-2009   #2 (permalink)
Van Chocstraw


 
 

Re: Virtual PC and Vmware Player

Theslaz wrote:
Quote:

> Is it possible to run Vmware Player using Virtual PC's files. When
> starting Vmware Player; I have told it to open Virtual PC's "VMC" file
> and it just hangs at the opening screen.
>
> Is it possible to run a Virtual program with "Other" files?
Microsoft Virtual PC files are not compatible with VMWare.




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Old 03-06-2009   #3 (permalink)
Theslaz


 
 

Re: Virtual PC and Vmware Player

Van Chocstraw wrote:
Quote:

> Theslaz wrote:
Quote:

>> Is it possible to run Vmware Player using Virtual PC's files. When
>> starting Vmware Player; I have told it to open Virtual PC's "VMC" file
>> and it just hangs at the opening screen.
>>
>> Is it possible to run a Virtual program with "Other" files?
>
> Microsoft Virtual PC files are not compatible with VMWare.
>
>
>
>
Not what I wanted to hear! However; having said that; I may have to say
also that you could be mistaken. I asked my same question in a forum and
got a reply back telling me to look at the VMware vCenter Converter. It
has a conversion program there and it specifically says that it can
convert the Microsoft format to a VMware format. Haven't tried it; but
when I do; I'll let you know. The site's address:
http://www.vmware.com/products/converter/faqs.html
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Old 03-06-2009   #4 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP]


 
 

Re: Virtual PC and Vmware Player

"Theslaz" <theslaz@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Wnisl.15608$Db2.5326@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>> Microsoft Virtual PC files are not compatible with VMWare.
>
> Not what I wanted to hear! However; having said that; I may have to say
> also that you could be mistaken. I asked my same question in a forum and
> got a reply back telling me to look at the VMware vCenter Converter. It
> has a conversion program there and it specifically says that it can
> convert the Microsoft format to a VMware format.
Compatibility and conversion aren't the same thing...

Plenty of file formats can be converted into plenty of other file formats -
that doesn't mean that they are compatible i.e. that they can be shared by
more than one application...


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Old 03-06-2009   #5 (permalink)
Theslaz


 
 

Re: Virtual PC and Vmware Player

Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
Quote:

> "Theslaz" <theslaz@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:Wnisl.15608$Db2.5326@xxxxxx
>
Quote:
Quote:

>>> Microsoft Virtual PC files are not compatible with VMWare.
>>
>> Not what I wanted to hear! However; having said that; I may have to
>> say also that you could be mistaken. I asked my same question in a
>> forum and got a reply back telling me to look at the VMware vCenter
>> Converter. It has a conversion program there and it specifically says
>> that it can convert the Microsoft format to a VMware format.
>
> Compatibility and conversion aren't the same thing...
>
> Plenty of file formats can be converted into plenty of other file
> formats - that doesn't mean that they are compatible i.e. that they can
> be shared by more than one application...
>
>
Well add this to your knowledge base.

Downloaded the program; loaded Microsoft's Virtual PC file; aprox. one
hour later I had a Compatable/converted file that I had no problem
running on the VMware Player.
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Old 03-07-2009   #6 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP]


 
 

Re: Virtual PC and Vmware Player

"Theslaz" <theslaz@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:nplsl.15658$Db2.14906@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:

>> Compatibility and conversion aren't the same thing...
>>
>> Plenty of file formats can be converted into plenty of other file
>> formats - that doesn't mean that they are compatible i.e. that they can
>> be shared by more than one application...
>>
> Well add this to your knowledge base.
>
> Downloaded the program; loaded Microsoft's Virtual PC file; aprox. one
> hour later I had a Compatable/converted file that I had no problem running
> on the VMware Player.
And that converted file still works with Virtual PC...?


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ASP.NET MVP
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Old 03-07-2009   #7 (permalink)
Theslaz


 
 

Re: Virtual PC and Vmware Player

Mark Rae [MVP] wrote:
Quote:

> "Theslaz" <theslaz@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:nplsl.15658$Db2.14906@xxxxxx
>
Quote:
Quote:

>>> Compatibility and conversion aren't the same thing...
>>>
>>> Plenty of file formats can be converted into plenty of other file
>>> formats - that doesn't mean that they are compatible i.e. that they
>>> can be shared by more than one application...
>>>
>> Well add this to your knowledge base.
>>
>> Downloaded the program; loaded Microsoft's Virtual PC file; aprox. one
>> hour later I had a Compatable/converted file that I had no problem
>> running on the VMware Player.
>
> And that converted file still works with Virtual PC...?
>
>
It leaves the original file in it's original location and builds a new
file that can be run on VMware.
I don't know if the new file will run on Microsoft's Virtual PC; I can
only assume not; as I dumped Virtual PC as soon as I determined that the
file worked with VMware. I find VMware is much more to my liking!

But then why would you want to try using the new file when the original
file is still in tact and in it's original location?
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Old 03-07-2009   #8 (permalink)
CJ


 
 

Re: Virtual PC and Vmware Player

Theslaz <theslaz@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>Is it possible to run Vmware Player using Virtual PC's files. When
>starting Vmware Player; I have told it to open Virtual PC's "VMC" file
>and it just hangs at the opening screen.
>
>Is it possible to run a Virtual program with "Other" files?
Don't know about VMWare but you can use VDI (Vbox format), VHD (VPC
format) as well as VMWares format with VirtualBox.

http://www.virtualbox.org

/CJ

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Old 03-07-2009   #9 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP]


 
 

Re: Virtual PC and Vmware Player

"Theslaz" <theslaz@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:
Quote:

>> And that converted file still works with Virtual PC...?
>
> It leaves the original file in it's original location and builds a new
> file that can be run on VMware.
That's right.
Quote:

> I don't know if the new file will run on Microsoft's Virtual PC;
It won't.
Quote:

> But then why would you want to try using the new file when the original
> file is still intact and in its original location?
Because that's what compatibility means!

E.g. the Microsoft Word file format is compatible with Microsoft Word
(obviously!) and OpenOffice.

This means e.g. that you can create a document in Word and then email it to
a colleague who can't afford Microsoft Word so uses the free OpenOffice
instead. Your colleague opens the Word document in OpenOffice without
conversion because the file format is *compatible* between the two
applications - no conversion is needed. Your colleague then makes some
modifications to the Word document and emails it back to you. You open the
modified Word document in Word and continue working on it. At no stage in
this process has the Word document been *converted* - it doesn't need to be,
because the Word file format is *compatible* both with Microsoft Word and
OpenOffice.

The Microsoft Virtual PC vhd file format is *not* compatible with VMWare -
if it were, both Virtual PC and VMWare could work with it natively. The very
fact that you need to *convert* a VPC vhd into something that VMWare can use
(but then VPC cannot) indicates that the file format is not compatible
between the two applications.


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Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

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Old 03-07-2009   #10 (permalink)
Nomen Nescio


 
 

Re: Virtual PC and Vmware Player

Have you always been this anal?

In article <#AYbyYznJHA.6060@xxxxxx>
"Mark Rae [MVP]" <mark@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>
> "Theslaz" <theslaz@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:jEusl.15685$Db2.2481@xxxxxx
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >> And that converted file still works with Virtual PC...?
> >
> > It leaves the original file in it's original location and builds a new
> > file that can be run on VMware.
>
> That's right.
>
Quote:

> > I don't know if the new file will run on Microsoft's Virtual PC;
>
> It won't.
>
Quote:

> > But then why would you want to try using the new file when the original
> > file is still intact and in its original location?
>
> Because that's what compatibility means!
>
> E.g. the Microsoft Word file format is compatible with Microsoft Word
> (obviously!) and OpenOffice.
>
> This means e.g. that you can create a document in Word and then email it to
> a colleague who can't afford Microsoft Word so uses the free OpenOffice
> instead. Your colleague opens the Word document in OpenOffice without
> conversion because the file format is *compatible* between the two
> applications - no conversion is needed. Your colleague then makes some
> modifications to the Word document and emails it back to you. You open the
> modified Word document in Word and continue working on it. At no stage in
> this process has the Word document been *converted* - it doesn't need to be,
> because the Word file format is *compatible* both with Microsoft Word and
> OpenOffice.
>
> The Microsoft Virtual PC vhd file format is *not* compatible with VMWare -
> if it were, both Virtual PC and VMWare could work with it natively. The very
> fact that you need to *convert* a VPC vhd into something that VMWare can use
> (but then VPC cannot) indicates that the file format is not compatible
> between the two applications.
>
>
> --
> Mark Rae
> ASP.NET MVP
> http://www.markrae.net
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