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Old 04-14-2009   #1 (permalink)
davea


 
 

No virtual environment for 64bit development with DirectX

So Virtual PC does not support 64bit guests and VMWare does not support
DirectX.

This means that for 64bit graphics development, there is NO virtual
environment available. This is crazy considering that we are only 8 months
away from the release of Windows 7 and that Windows XP and Vista have a 64bit
verson.

What is the problem here? Is Microsoft unable to do 64bit virtualization?
Apparently so because there is NO sign that anything is happening here.

It is time for the user community to demand this. We have been encouraged to
more to virtual environments and we expect the tools providers to offer them.

Microsoft - I am willing to pay for 64bit Virtual PC (i.e. 64bit Guest on a
64bit host) but I need it quickly!

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Old 04-14-2009   #2 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP]


 
 

Re: No virtual environment for 64bit development with DirectX

"davea" <davea@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:5ABB1AC8-C827-4BB2-AEC9-E3BA809A26F0@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Is Microsoft unable to do 64bit virtualization?
Not at all:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en


--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

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Old 04-14-2009   #3 (permalink)
davea


 
 

Re: No virtual environment for 64bit development with DirectX

Thanks Mark,

Does this mean that we will get a Workstation product soon?

We desperately need a way to have Vista 64bit and Windows 7 64bit virtual
environments for development soon. Our development cycles are getting shorter
and shorter.

Thanks,

dave

"Mark Rae [MVP]" wrote:
Quote:

> "davea" <davea@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:5ABB1AC8-C827-4BB2-AEC9-E3BA809A26F0@xxxxxx
>
Quote:

> > Is Microsoft unable to do 64bit virtualization?
>
> Not at all:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
>
> --
> Mark Rae
> ASP.NET MVP
> http://www.markrae.net
>
>
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Old 04-14-2009   #4 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP]


 
 

Re: No virtual environment for 64bit development with DirectX

"davea" <davea@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:09E1C20D-8A83-4F8F-9DF3-DFEACC6E35A9@xxxxxx
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

>>> Is Microsoft unable to do 64bit virtualization?
Quote:

> Does this mean that we will get a workstation product soon?
Nothing has been announced...
Quote:

> We desperately need a way to have Vista 64bit and Windows 7 64bit virtual
> environments for development soon. Our development cycles are getting
> shorter
> and shorter.
You can do that now, but unfortunately not with Microsoft products...


--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

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Old 04-14-2009   #5 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: No virtual environment for 64bit development with DirectX

>You can do that now, but unfortunately not with Microsoft products...

Not with VPC or Virtual Server -- Hyper-V and Win2008 w/Hyper-V can do
it, and Win2008 w/hyper-V is what I'd suggest using for 64-bit Vista
and Win-7 development in a VM.

--
Bob Comer



On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 19:13:40 +0100, "Mark Rae [MVP]"
<mark@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>"davea" <davea@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:09E1C20D-8A83-4F8F-9DF3-DFEACC6E35A9@xxxxxx
>
Quote:
Quote:

>>>> Is Microsoft unable to do 64bit virtualization?
>
Quote:
>
Quote:

>> Does this mean that we will get a workstation product soon?
>
>Nothing has been announced...
>
Quote:

>> We desperately need a way to have Vista 64bit and Windows 7 64bit virtual
>> environments for development soon. Our development cycles are getting
>> shorter
>> and shorter.
>
>You can do that now, but unfortunately not with Microsoft products...
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Old 04-16-2009   #6 (permalink)
ronald.phillips


 
 

Re: No virtual environment for 64bit development with DirectX

On Apr 14, 2:10*pm, "jorgensen" <jo...@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

> And VirtualPC does not support USB and multible CPUs - a lot to be improved,
> but we have to wait to see what Microsoft have in mind on virtualization.
>
> VirtualBox support USB, 64-bit host/guest and multible CPUs - not sure about
> DirectX, but I believe it does!
>
> "davea" <da...@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>
> news:5ABB1AC8-C827-4BB2-AEC9-E3BA809A26F0@xxxxxx
>
Quote:

> > So Virtual PC does not support 64bit guests and VMWare does not support
> > DirectX.
>
Quote:

> > This means that for 64bit graphics development, there is NO virtual
> > environment available. This is crazy considering that we are only 8 months
> > away from the release of Windows 7 and that Windows XP and Vista have a
> > 64bit
> > verson.
>
Quote:

> > What is the problem here? Is Microsoft unable to do 64bit virtualization?
> > Apparently so because there is NO sign that anything is happening here.
>
Quote:

> > It is time for the user community to demand this. We have been encouraged
> > to
> > more to virtual environments and we expect the tools providers to offer
> > them.
>
Quote:

> > Microsoft - I am willing to pay for 64bit Virtual PC (i.e. 64bit Guest on
> > a
> > 64bit host) but I need it quickly!
Vmware 6.5+ Supports D3D 8+
VirtualBox supports OpenGL
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