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Old 04-20-2009   #1 (permalink)
Help me


 
 

Mac OS X in a VPC

I am running Vista 64 bit and would like to run the Mac OS as a vpc so I can
write programs for an Iphone/IPod touch.

Any suggestions other than buying a mac ?

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Old 04-21-2009   #2 (permalink)


Vista Ultimate x64
 
 

Re: Mac OS X in a VPC

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by Help me View Post
I am running Vista 64 bit and would like to run the Mac OS as a vpc so I can
write programs for an Iphone/IPod touch.

Any suggestions other than buying a mac ?
There is no virtualization software for the PC that supports OS X as a guest.
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Old 04-21-2009   #3 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP]


 
 

Re: Mac OS X in a VPC

"Help me" <Helpme@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:236B06F7-3140-448C-BD90-15435816A94D@xxxxxx
Quote:

> I am running Vista 64 bit and would like to run the Mac OS as a VM so I
> can
> write programs for an iPhone / iPod touch.
Not possible:
http://vpc.visualwin.com/ngfaq.aspx#5

Quote:

> Any suggestions other than buying a Mac ?
No.

Unless you intend your Mac to be your main machine, I'd suggest you consider
a Mac Mini. Superb machine, takes almost no space, and works with your
existing keyboard monitor and mouse...


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ASP.NET MVP
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Old 04-21-2009   #4 (permalink)
jorgensen


 
 

Re: Mac OS X in a VPC

Might be possible!
A lot people have manage to run Mac OS on a netbook and call it
"HackIntosh".
You might search for it, and see how they are doing it.
Interested to hear if you figure out of something.
Good luck.

"Help me" <Helpme@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

>I am running Vista 64 bit and would like to run the Mac OS as a vpc so I
>can
> write programs for an Iphone/IPod touch.
>
> Any suggestions other than buying a mac ?

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Old 04-21-2009   #5 (permalink)
Steffen Koch


 
 

Re: Mac OS X in a VPC

S.SubZero schrieb:
Quote:

> Help me;1024672 Wrote:
Quote:

>> I am running Vista 64 bit and would like to run the Mac OS as a vpc so I
>> can
>> write programs for an Iphone/IPod touch.
>>
>> Any suggestions other than buying a mac ?
> There is no virtualization software for the PC that supports OS X as a
> guest.
>
>
at least not officially. I've a MacOSX 10.5 running in vmware
workstation (testing purpose only!). kinda slow but running.

regards
Steffen
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Old 04-21-2009   #6 (permalink)
David B.


 
 

Re: Mac OS X in a VPC

Hackintosh (or OSx86 as it's properly called) has been around much longer
than netbooks and works quite well on the proper PC hardware.

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"jorgensen" <jorgs@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Might be possible!
> A lot people have manage to run Mac OS on a netbook and call it
> "HackIntosh".
> You might search for it, and see how they are doing it.
> Interested to hear if you figure out of something.
> Good luck.
>
> "Help me" <Helpme@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:236B06F7-3140-448C-BD90-15435816A94D@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>I am running Vista 64 bit and would like to run the Mac OS as a vpc so I
>>can
>> write programs for an Iphone/IPod touch.
>>
>> Any suggestions other than buying a mac ?
>
>
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Old 04-26-2009   #7 (permalink)
Robert Moir


 
 

Re: Mac OS X in a VPC

Help me wrote:
Quote:

> I am running Vista 64 bit and would like to run the Mac OS as a vpc
> so I can write programs for an Iphone/IPod touch.
>
> Any suggestions other than buying a mac ?
If buying a mac is out you have two choices.
1) hackintosh (not legal, therefore possibly not a great choice for a
software development business).
2) go without.


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Old 04-28-2009   #8 (permalink)
Bob Campbell


 
 

Re: Mac OS X in a VPC

"Robert Moir" <usenet+robspamtrap@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Help me wrote:
Quote:

>> I am running Vista 64 bit and would like to run the Mac OS as a vpc
>> so I can write programs for an Iphone/IPod touch.
>>
>> Any suggestions other than buying a mac ?
>
> If buying a mac is out you have two choices.
> 1) hackintosh (not legal, therefore possibly not a great choice for a
> software development business).
> 2) go without.
It is perfectly legal. It is against Apple's license, not against the law.
Apple does not write laws. The most they can do is not support you. BFD.
If you buy a copy of OS X, you can install it on whatever you want.

I have installed OS X on several PCs. If you have the correct hardware it
runs fine. The problems come from the fact that Apple's PCs have such a
limited range of chipsets, video cards, network cards, etc. and there are no
drivers for anything else. There are known motherboards and notebooks
that are virtually identical to Apple's overpriced stuff, that run OS X just
fine.

Go to http://www.insanelymac.com/ and learn, particularly the forums.


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Old 05-05-2009   #9 (permalink)
Jakob Bohm


 
 

Re: Mac OS X in a VPC

Bob Campbell wrote:
Quote:

>
> It is perfectly legal. It is against Apple's license, not against the
> law. Apple does not write laws. The most they can do is not support
> you. BFD. If you buy a copy of OS X, you can install it on whatever you
> want.
This is a common misunderstanding of the legal rules for software: The
typical situation is:

1. The law says that it is illegal to download, copy, install (or maybe
even run) the software without permission from whomever wrote that
software (in this case Apple). Such a permission is called a "license"

2. Apple insists that they will only give you that license on certain
conditions (one of which involves paying them money, but that is usually
not the only condition).

3. Not obeying the conditions that came with your license is a "breach
of contract" and gives Apple an excuse to cancel your permission, at
which point #1 kicks in and "using" the software then becomes illegal.

Furthermore, in most countries it is against the law to breach any valid
contract after you have fooled the other party (in this case Apple) to
do something they would not have done if you had not made that broken
promise.

4. The real legal situation in such cases can get very complicated in
some cases but I am not a lawyer so I cannot give you any advise on the
details.

5. In some languages the words for "against the law" and "against a
contract" are the same, but in some English dialects there are different
words for it, however the "breach of contract causes revocation of
license which causes any continued activity to be technically illegal"
phrasing is usually abbreviated to simply "illegal" when not writing
official legal documents.

Here is a non-software example with similar logic:

Little C asks Big C: May I borrow your 10 horses for a day, then
you can borrow my one horse for 10 days?

Big C answers to Little C: OK, but only if you do not call them your
horses, they are still MY horses.

Little C: GO all my 11 horses!

Big C: STOP, you promised not to do that!

(Adapted from the beginning of the tale by H.C. Andersen)

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Old 05-05-2009   #10 (permalink)
Bob Campbell


 
 

Re: Mac OS X in a VPC


"Jakob Bohm" <jb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Bob Campbell wrote:
Quote:

>This is a common misunderstanding of the legal rules for software: The
>typical situation is:
Quote:

>1. The law says that it is illegal to download, copy, install (or maybe
>even run) the software without permission from whomever wrote that software
>(in this case Apple). Such a permission is called a "license"
Quote:

>2. Apple insists that they will only give you that license on certain
>conditions (one of which involves paying them money, but that is usually
>not the only condition).
All of which is true, but irrelevant.

The bottom line remains the same. Neither Apple nor anyone else is going
to come banging on your door, demanding that you remove your "illegal" OS X
install from an "illegal" PC. Apple would have no leg to stand on in court.
You can not demand a hardware sale when all the customer wants is software.
Period. Ask IBM how that strategy went for them 40 years ago.

Imagine if Microsoft demanded you buy a Microsoft PC in order to "legally"
run Office. Can you imagine how quickly they would be sued? Apple is not
going after the folks doing this because they know they would lose in court,
and OS X would be "unbundled" from Apple PCs.


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