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| | Exciting comment about future USB support in a recent interview. I was just reading the interview of Scott Woodgate by Mary Jo over at MW ( http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2621 ) and this wonderful gem appears about half way down: "MJF: Will Virtual PC 7 be available independently of Virtual XP? Or are the two only available hand-in-hand? Woodgate: Customers can use Windows Virtual PC independently of Windows XP Mode. We expect developers and IT Professionals to do this, as they do today, and we catered to these folks by adding the commonly requested support for USB to Windows Virtual PC." I was stunned! I think this means we might actually get our long requested and long denied support for USB devices in the next version of VPC. I am now anxiously awaiting the next version of VPC to see if this actually happens! |
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| | Re: Exciting comment about future USB support in a recent interview. Xepol wrote: Quote: > Woodgate: Customers can use Windows Virtual PC independently of Windows XP > Mode. We expect developers and IT Professionals to do this, as they do > today, and we catered to these folks by adding the commonly requested support > for USB to Windows Virtual PC." > > I was stunned! I think this means we might actually get our long requested > and long denied support for USB devices in the next version of VPC. as one of the most frequent complaints about moving past XP was driver inavailability. Well, imagine if you can't even *connect* to the device at all! Although, certainly, that solves the problem of there being no drivers for it. <g> -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org |
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| | Re: Exciting comment about future USB support in a recent interview. If you are in the Win 7 beta, that could be as early as tomorrow. The public beta should start soon afterwards (May 5th). Did you also note that it only runs on Windows 7 and requires hardware virtualization? http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/f...-28Win7QA.mspx "Xepol" <Xepol@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:33E15772-E6EE-4265-8A8F-A2877E3DFE00@xxxxxx Quote: > I was just reading the interview of Scott Woodgate by Mary Jo over at MW ( > http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=2621 ) and this wonderful gem appears > about half way down: > > "MJF: Will Virtual PC 7 be available independently of Virtual XP? Or are > the > two only available hand-in-hand? > > Woodgate: Customers can use Windows Virtual PC independently of Windows XP > Mode. We expect developers and IT Professionals to do this, as they do > today, and we catered to these folks by adding the commonly requested > support > for USB to Windows Virtual PC." > > I was stunned! I think this means we might actually get our long > requested > and long denied support for USB devices in the next version of VPC. > > I am now anxiously awaiting the next version of VPC to see if this > actually > happens! |
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| | Re: Exciting comment about future USB support in a recent interview. "Bob Campbell" <bob@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:6pOdncJgbs0H-WLUnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> Did you also note that it only runs on Windows 7 and requires hardware >> virtualization? > The USB support works fine. But it DOES require Win 7. I have hardware > virtualization (Core 2 Quad system) so that's not an issue for me. > > The Windows Virtual PC is also threaded now, so all your running VMs are > no longer limited to a single CPU. Performance is much smoother. Agreed. This new version will be a true competitor for VMWare Workstation... -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net |
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| | Re: Exciting comment about future USB support in a recent interview. Mark Rae [MVP] wrote: Quote: > "Bob Campbell" <bob@xxxxxx> wrote ... Quote: Quote: >>> Did you also note that it only runs on Windows 7 and requires hardware >>> virtualization? >> The USB support works fine. But it DOES require Win 7. I have hardware >> virtualization (Core 2 Quad system) so that's not an issue for me. >> >> The Windows Virtual PC is also threaded now, so all your running VMs are >> no longer limited to a single CPU. Performance is much smoother. > Agreed. This new version will be a true competitor for VMWare Workstation... -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org |
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| | Re: Exciting comment about future USB support in a recent interview. "Karl E. Peterson" <karl@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#R2qId10JHA.5924@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> This new version will be a true competitor for VMWare Workstation... Workstation... -- pa |
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| | Re: Exciting comment about future USB support in a recent interview. "Pavel A." <pavel_a@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23zYIeR20JHA.5728@xxxxxx Quote: > the VMware Player (disguised by MS) -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net |
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| | Re: Exciting comment about future USB support in a recent interview. Pavel A. wrote: Quote: > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:#R2qId10JHA.5924@xxxxxx > Quote: Quote: >>> This new version will be a true competitor for VMWare Workstation... > ROTFL. How can the VMware Player (disguised by MS) compete with VMware > Workstation... -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org |
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| | Re: Exciting comment about future USB support in a recent interview. "Karl E. Peterson" <karl@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23R2qId10JHA.5924@xxxxxx Quote: Quote: >> Agreed. This new version will be a true competitor for VMWare >> Workstation... > Not if it requires w7. competition for VMWare. It ONLY supports XP SP3, Vista and 7 as guests. That's it - no Server 2003, no Server 2008, no Linux, no nothing. It ONLY supports 7 as the host. It does not run 64 bit guests. If this is Microsoft's idea of workstation virtualization, then they have completely missed the mark. There are folks on the Win 7 TechNet forums expressing the same feelings. WVPC is clearly intended to merely provide the "Virtual XP" thing for 7. That it happens to run existing VHDs from VPC2007 is pure luck, and is completely unsupported. I am still holding out hope that we will see a "VPC2010" type product, that is a separate product that installs on XP/Vista/7 and supports many guest OSes. If that does not happen, then I will need to switch to VMWare Workstation for my development needs. |
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| | Re: Exciting comment about future USB support in a recent interview. >The more I learn about WVPC, the clearer it becomes that it is NOT Quote: >competition for VMWare. competition for VPC2007. It's a product to specifically address the legacy applications of people moving to Win7, that's it. It just so happens it can do more than that, but it's not supported for more than that. Quote: >I am still holding out hope that we will see a "VPC2010" type product, that >is a separate product that installs on XP/Vista/7 and supports many guest >OSes. -- Bob Comer On Wed, 13 May 2009 11:12:48 -0400, "Bob Campbell" <bob@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > >"Karl E. Peterson" <karl@xxxxxx> wrote in message >news:%23R2qId10JHA.5924@xxxxxx > Quote: Quote: >>> Agreed. This new version will be a true competitor for VMWare >>> Workstation... >> Not if it requires w7. >The more I learn about WVPC, the clearer it becomes that it is NOT >competition for VMWare. It ONLY supports XP SP3, Vista and 7 as guests. >That's it - no Server 2003, no Server 2008, no Linux, no nothing. It ONLY >supports 7 as the host. It does not run 64 bit guests. If this is >Microsoft's idea of workstation virtualization, then they have completely >missed the mark. There are folks on the Win 7 TechNet forums expressing >the same feelings. WVPC is clearly intended to merely provide the "Virtual >XP" thing for 7. That it happens to run existing VHDs from VPC2007 is pure >luck, and is completely unsupported. > >I am still holding out hope that we will see a "VPC2010" type product, that >is a separate product that installs on XP/Vista/7 and supports many guest >OSes. If that does not happen, then I will need to switch to VMWare >Workstation for my development needs. |
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