Vista - 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit?

06-02-2009

SaGS wrote:

Quote:

> "Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
> news:7d4325l7kd7gok3v8a1igjhatjfe2bvaab@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> ...
>> But, VPC7 does not allow 64bit VMs.
>> ...

>
> Yes, but the scenario I described runs Windows 7, be it 32- or 64-bit,
> natively on the physical computer without using any virtualization solution.
> It's a dual-boot, but without the inconvenience of repartitioning the hdd.
> And when running Win7 natively, one can test Win VPC 7 and the "XP Mode", a
> thing that's not possible when running Win7 in a VM.
>
> I posted my previous message because the OP writes about "try out Win7 on
> the VHD" and "attempts to start up a 32 bit VHD". I thought she/he might
> have heard about the new capability in Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008
> *R2* to be installed/ boot from a VHD, and maybe she/he thought this is
> connected to VPC and virtualization. It's not: the VHD file is used instead
> of a disc partition, but that's all.
>
>

Thanks for the info SaGS. At this point, I've used V-Box with the 32
bit and it works fine. One does have to have the RAM to handle it. The
reason so far is to try some things in win7 as well as Linux.

As Steve pointed out, V-box and linux do have their problems and I'm
working through them although 'some' of their instructions are vague
like fog regarding 'sharing' of files between the VHD and a dir on the
Vista.
Jim

06-02-2009

I installed the 64 bit version of VPC 2007 on 64 bit windows 7 and it
defaults to installing in c:\program files (x86)\... which seems odd. I
tried it there and in c:\program files\... and in neither case would it load
a .vhc made on a 32 bit XP system. Anybody know about either of these two
oddities?

Bob

"jim-g" <##jimg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eG6HnEI4JHA.1716@xxxxxx

Quote:

> My machine is dual-quad 64 bit HP with Vista 32 bit Home-Ultimate on it
> and my first attempts to start up a 32 bit VHD. I'd like to try out Win7
> on the VHD but don't know if it is dependent on the VPC being 64 bit or
> whether the win7 runs off the hardware as 64 bit?
>
> If I have to, the 32 bit ver of Win7 can be downloaded to run.
>
> Any thoughts ?
>
> Jim

06-02-2009

"BL Muzzy" <blm@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#TCajh#4JHA.4404@xxxxxx

Quote:

> I installed the 64 bit version of VPC 2007 on 64 bit windows 7 and it
> defaults to installing in c:\program files (x86)\... which seems odd. I
> tried it there and in c:\program files\... and in neither case would it
> load a .vhc made on a 32 bit XP system. Anybody know about either of
> these two oddities?
>
> Bob
>
> "jim-g" <##jimg@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eG6HnEI4JHA.1716@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> My machine is dual-quad 64 bit HP with Vista 32 bit Home-Ultimate on it
>> and my first attempts to start up a 32 bit VHD. I'd like to try out Win7
>> on the VHD but don't know if it is dependent on the VPC being 64 bit or
>> whether the win7 runs off the hardware as 64 bit?
>>
>> If I have to, the 32 bit ver of Win7 can be downloaded to run.
>>
>> Any thoughts ?
>>
>> Jim

>

It installs in the x86 folder because it is a 32-bit app. The difference
between the 32 & 64 versions are to accommodate the different requirements
of the host OS. Neither will run 64-bit clients.

By .vhc did you mean .vhd or .vmc? It is never a good idea to transfer
..vmc files between systems. You should be able to create a new vm using an
existing .vhd file.

06-03-2009

"BL Muzzy" <blm@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23TCajh%234JHA.4404@xxxxxx

Quote:

> I installed the 64 bit version of VPC 2007 on 64 bit windows 7 and it
> defaults to installing in c:\program files (x86)\... which seems odd.

http://vpc.visualwin.com/ngfaq.aspx#18

--
Mark Rae
ASP.NET MVP
http://www.markrae.net

06-02-2009	#11 (permalink)
jim n/a posts	Re: 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit? SaGS wrote: Quote: > "Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message > news:7d4325l7kd7gok3v8a1igjhatjfe2bvaab@xxxxxx Quote: >> ... >> But, VPC7 does not allow 64bit VMs. >> ... > > Yes, but the scenario I described runs Windows 7, be it 32- or 64-bit, > natively on the physical computer without using any virtualization solution. > It's a dual-boot, but without the inconvenience of repartitioning the hdd. > And when running Win7 natively, one can test Win VPC 7 and the "XP Mode", a > thing that's not possible when running Win7 in a VM. > > I posted my previous message because the OP writes about "try out Win7 on > the VHD" and "attempts to start up a 32 bit VHD". I thought she/he might > have heard about the new capability in Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 > R2 to be installed/ boot from a VHD, and maybe she/he thought this is > connected to VPC and virtualization. It's not: the VHD file is used instead > of a disc partition, but that's all. > > Thanks for the info SaGS. At this point, I've used V-Box with the 32 bit and it works fine. One does have to have the RAM to handle it. The reason so far is to try some things in win7 as well as Linux. As Steve pointed out, V-box and linux do have their problems and I'm working through them although 'some' of their instructions are vague like fog regarding 'sharing' of files between the VHD and a dir on the Vista. Jim
My System Specs

06-02-2009	#12 (permalink)
BL Muzzy n/a posts	Re: 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit? I installed the 64 bit version of VPC 2007 on 64 bit windows 7 and it defaults to installing in c:\program files (x86)\... which seems odd. I tried it there and in c:\program files\... and in neither case would it load a .vhc made on a 32 bit XP system. Anybody know about either of these two oddities? Bob "jim-g" <##jimg@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eG6HnEI4JHA.1716@xxxxxx Quote: > My machine is dual-quad 64 bit HP with Vista 32 bit Home-Ultimate on it > and my first attempts to start up a 32 bit VHD. I'd like to try out Win7 > on the VHD but don't know if it is dependent on the VPC being 64 bit or > whether the win7 runs off the hardware as 64 bit? > > If I have to, the 32 bit ver of Win7 can be downloaded to run. > > Any thoughts ? > > Jim
My System Specs

06-02-2009	#13 (permalink)
Bill Grant n/a posts	Re: 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit? "BL Muzzy" <blm@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:#TCajh#4JHA.4404@xxxxxx Quote: > I installed the 64 bit version of VPC 2007 on 64 bit windows 7 and it > defaults to installing in c:\program files (x86)\... which seems odd. I > tried it there and in c:\program files\... and in neither case would it > load a .vhc made on a 32 bit XP system. Anybody know about either of > these two oddities? > > Bob > > "jim-g" <##jimg@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:eG6HnEI4JHA.1716@xxxxxx Quote: >> My machine is dual-quad 64 bit HP with Vista 32 bit Home-Ultimate on it >> and my first attempts to start up a 32 bit VHD. I'd like to try out Win7 >> on the VHD but don't know if it is dependent on the VPC being 64 bit or >> whether the win7 runs off the hardware as 64 bit? >> >> If I have to, the 32 bit ver of Win7 can be downloaded to run. >> >> Any thoughts ? >> >> Jim > It installs in the x86 folder because it is a 32-bit app. The difference between the 32 & 64 versions are to accommodate the different requirements of the host OS. Neither will run 64-bit clients. By .vhc did you mean .vhd or .vmc? It is never a good idea to transfer ..vmc files between systems. You should be able to create a new vm using an existing .vhd file.
My System Specs

06-03-2009	#14 (permalink)
Mark Rae [MVP] n/a posts	Re: 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit? "BL Muzzy" <blm@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23TCajh%234JHA.4404@xxxxxx Quote: > I installed the 64 bit version of VPC 2007 on 64 bit windows 7 and it > defaults to installing in c:\program files (x86)\... which seems odd. http://vpc.visualwin.com/ngfaq.aspx#18 -- Mark Rae ASP.NET MVP http://www.markrae.net
My System Specs

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