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| | 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit? My machine is dual-quad 64 bit HP with Vista 32 bit Home-Ultimate on it and my first attempts to start up a 32 bit VHD. I'd like to try out Win7 on the VHD but don't know if it is dependent on the VPC being 64 bit or whether the win7 runs off the hardware as 64 bit? If I have to, the 32 bit ver of Win7 can be downloaded to run. Any thoughts ? Jim |
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| | Re: 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit? jim-g wrote: Quote: > My machine is dual-quad 64 bit HP with Vista 32 bit Home-Ultimate on it > and my first attempts to start up a 32 bit VHD. I'd like to try out > Win7 on the VHD but don't know if it is dependent on the VPC being 64 > bit or whether the win7 runs off the hardware as 64 bit? > > If I have to, the 32 bit ver of Win7 can be downloaded to run. Virtual PC does not support 64-bit guests, even on 64-bit host OS. VMWare workstation does support 64-bit guests, even on 32-bit host (provided CPU is 64-bit of course). -- David Wilkinson Visual C++ MVP |
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| | Re: 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit? On Fri, 29 May 2009 10:15:57 -0700, "jim-g" <##jimg@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >My machine is dual-quad 64 bit HP with Vista 32 bit Home-Ultimate on it and >my first attempts to start up a 32 bit VHD. I'd like to try out Win7 on the >VHD but don't know if it is dependent on the VPC being 64 bit or whether the >win7 runs off the hardware as 64 bit? > >If I have to, the 32 bit ver of Win7 can be downloaded to run. > >Any thoughts ? > >Jim VPC allows you to run 64bit VMs. You need Hyper-V or another VM program to do that. -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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| | Re: 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit? Thanks a lot fellas..... Jim "David Wilkinson" <no-reply@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:%23yiAAQI4JHA.4272@xxxxxx Quote: > jim-g wrote: Quote: >> My machine is dual-quad 64 bit HP with Vista 32 bit Home-Ultimate on it >> and my first attempts to start up a 32 bit VHD. I'd like to try out Win7 >> on the VHD but don't know if it is dependent on the VPC being 64 bit or >> whether the win7 runs off the hardware as 64 bit? >> >> If I have to, the 32 bit ver of Win7 can be downloaded to run. > Jim: > > Virtual PC does not support 64-bit guests, even on 64-bit host OS. > > VMWare workstation does support 64-bit guests, even on 32-bit host > (provided CPU is 64-bit of course). > > -- > David Wilkinson > Visual C++ MVP |
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| | Re: 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit? What do you think of the "virtualBox" in comparison to WMware? "Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message news:3670259boka89ha6ojh9nm1evsl6p17f0p@xxxxxx Quote: > On Fri, 29 May 2009 10:15:57 -0700, "jim-g" <##jimg@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: >>My machine is dual-quad 64 bit HP with Vista 32 bit Home-Ultimate on it >>and >>my first attempts to start up a 32 bit VHD. I'd like to try out Win7 on >>the >>VHD but don't know if it is dependent on the VPC being 64 bit or whether >>the >>win7 runs off the hardware as 64 bit? >> >>If I have to, the 32 bit ver of Win7 can be downloaded to run. >> >>Any thoughts ? >> >>Jim > If your OS is 32bit, install the 32bit version of VPC. No version of > VPC allows you to run 64bit VMs. > > You need Hyper-V or another VM program to do that. > > -- > Cheers, > Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP > http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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| | Re: 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit? On Fri, 29 May 2009 11:48:27 -0700, "jim-g" <##jimg@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >What do you think of the "virtualBox" in comparison to WMware? > It's pretty close to VMWare. I've got both installed, along with VPC, but I usually use VMWare for my Linux needs over VBox. No special reason other than I'm used to the interface and, in my experience, the VM Tools is easier to work with in VMWare than VBox. -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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| | Re: 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit? Great....nice to see such flexibility. Thanks again. Jim |
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| | Re: 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit? "jim-g" <##jimg@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:eG6HnEI4JHA.1716@xxxxxx Quote: > My machine is dual-quad 64 bit HP with Vista 32 bit Home-Ultimate on it > and my first attempts to start up a 32 bit VHD. I'd like to try out Win7 > on the VHD but don't know if it is dependent on the VPC being 64 bit or > whether the win7 runs off the hardware as 64 bit? from a VHD, without using any virtualisation solution, yet still without the need to repartition the physical disk. See http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...tart-boot.html See also the FAQ at http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../dd440865.aspx Disadvantage: - You cannot run your current Vista and Windows 7 *at the same time*. A reboot is needed to switch between them. Advantage: - Run Windows 7 natively, with access to all your hardware (the real graphics card, access to USB devices, etc). - You can install either of, or both, 32- or 64-bit versions (dual/ triple boot with Vista). - You can test Windows Virtual PC 7 and the Virtual XP Mode (I'm pretty sure these cannot run if Windows 7 itself runs in a VM). |
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| | Re: 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit? On Sat, 30 May 2009 16:22:54 +0300, "SaGS" <AntiSpamRemoveAllZsags54Z95@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >"jim-g" <##jimg@xxxxxx> wrote in message >news:eG6HnEI4JHA.1716@xxxxxx Quote: >> My machine is dual-quad 64 bit HP with Vista 32 bit Home-Ultimate on it >> and my first attempts to start up a 32 bit VHD. I'd like to try out Win7 >> on the VHD but don't know if it is dependent on the VPC being 64 bit or >> whether the win7 runs off the hardware as 64 bit? >Another solution is to install Windows 7 to boot natively on your hardware >from a VHD, without using any virtualisation solution, yet still without the >need to repartition the physical disk. See >http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...tart-boot.html >See also the FAQ at http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../dd440865.aspx > >Disadvantage: > >- You cannot run your current Vista and Windows 7 *at the same time*. A >reboot is needed to switch between them. > >Advantage: > >- Run Windows 7 natively, with access to all your hardware (the real >graphics card, access to USB devices, etc). >- You can install either of, or both, 32- or 64-bit versions (dual/ triple >boot with Vista). >- You can test Windows Virtual PC 7 and the Virtual XP Mode (I'm pretty sure >these cannot run if Windows 7 itself runs in a VM). > -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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| | Re: 2007 VPC to run Win7-64 bit? "Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message news:7d4325l7kd7gok3v8a1igjhatjfe2bvaab@xxxxxx Quote: > ... > But, VPC7 does not allow 64bit VMs. > ... natively on the physical computer without using any virtualization solution. It's a dual-boot, but without the inconvenience of repartitioning the hdd. And when running Win7 natively, one can test Win VPC 7 and the "XP Mode", a thing that's not possible when running Win7 in a VM. I posted my previous message because the OP writes about "try out Win7 on the VHD" and "attempts to start up a 32 bit VHD". I thought she/he might have heard about the new capability in Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 *R2* to be installed/ boot from a VHD, and maybe she/he thought this is connected to VPC and virtualization. It's not: the VHD file is used instead of a disc partition, but that's all. |
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