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| | vpc 2007 vs vs2005 For running 2 or 3 vms (3x 1GB RAM) on Vista ultimate 64 host with core 2 quad 2.6 GHz and 8 GB Ram , is vac 2007 better or vs 2005? with vpc 2007, I get Mac address conflict on VMs whenever I wake the host from hibernation |
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| | Re: vpc 2007 vs vs2005 On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 00:45:46 -0600, "GS" <gsmsnews.microsoft.comGS@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >For running 2 or 3 vms (3x 1GB RAM) on Vista ultimate 64 host with core 2 >quad 2.6 GHz and 8 GB Ram , is vac 2007 better or vs 2005? >with vpc 2007, I get Mac address conflict on VMs whenever I wake the host >from hibernation > guests. THis means that it gives you a window within which the guest runs so you can interact with it directly. But it also means that you have to be logged on to the host to run the virtual machines. VS2005 on the other hand is intended for server class operating systems in the guests. This means that VS2005 can start the gustes up even with noone logged on to the host. It runs as a service. It does not have a native window where the guest runs, instead you get a web based interface to the guest machines or you must use RDP. The networking issues are totally irrelevant to this question. You simply do not have your DHCP server set up correctly. -- Bo Berglund (Sweden) |
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| | Re: vpc 2007 vs vs2005 It's not a good idea to hibernate with VM's active in any VM product. The VM's aren't aware of it so you have clock, and yes, networking problems. (especially if they're domain joined.) -- Bob Comer On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 00:45:46 -0600, "GS" <gsmsnews.microsoft.comGS@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >For running 2 or 3 vms (3x 1GB RAM) on Vista ultimate 64 host with core 2 >quad 2.6 GHz and 8 GB Ram , is vac 2007 better or vs 2005? >with vpc 2007, I get Mac address conflict on VMs whenever I wake the host >from hibernation > |
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| | Re: vpc 2007 vs vs2005 thank you all. The Vms are stand alone VMs not domain based. Furthermore they are have static IP. Also the vista host is a stand alone PC not in domain So are you saying I should use dhcp server like the that of the router to assign Ip instead of fixed unique ip for each VM? "Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:4k4i25184r2v4oph7mhbm3t5c0s91kpn85@xxxxxx Quote: > It's not a good idea to hibernate with VM's active in any VM product. > The VM's aren't aware of it so you have clock, and yes, networking > problems. (especially if they're domain joined.) > > -- > Bob Comer > > > On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 00:45:46 -0600, "GS" > <gsmsnews.microsoft.comGS@xxxxxx> wrote: > Quote: > >For running 2 or 3 vms (3x 1GB RAM) on Vista ultimate 64 host with core Quote: Quote: > >quad 2.6 GHz and 8 GB Ram , is vac 2007 better or vs 2005? > >with vpc 2007, I get Mac address conflict on VMs whenever I wake the host > >from hibernation > > |
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| | Re: vpc 2007 vs vs2005 >So are you saying I should use dhcp server like the that of the router to Quote: >assign Ip instead of fixed unique ip for each VM? getting restarted, maybe the NIC isn't ready to begin with, or something equally arcane. It may be worth a try though as it'll change the order in how things start up. It'd really be best to just save state the VM's before you hibernate, and start them after you restart your PC. -- Bob Comer On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 09:11:05 -0600, "GS" <gsmsnews.microsoft.comGS@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >thank you all. >The Vms are stand alone VMs not domain based. Furthermore they are have >static IP. Also the vista host is a stand alone PC not in domain > >So are you saying I should use dhcp server like the that of the router to >assign Ip instead of fixed unique ip for each VM? > >"Robert Comer" <bobcomer-removeme-@xxxxxx> wrote in message >news:4k4i25184r2v4oph7mhbm3t5c0s91kpn85@xxxxxx Quote: >> It's not a good idea to hibernate with VM's active in any VM product. >> The VM's aren't aware of it so you have clock, and yes, networking >> problems. (especially if they're domain joined.) >> >> -- >> Bob Comer >> >> >> On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 00:45:46 -0600, "GS" >> <gsmsnews.microsoft.comGS@xxxxxx> wrote: >> Quote: >> >For running 2 or 3 vms (3x 1GB RAM) on Vista ultimate 64 host with core Quote: Quote: >> >quad 2.6 GHz and 8 GB Ram , is vac 2007 better or vs 2005? >> >with vpc 2007, I get Mac address conflict on VMs whenever I wake the host >> >from hibernation >> > |
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| | Re: vpc 2007 vs vs2005 On 6ÔÂ5ÈÕ, ÏÂÎç2ʱ45·Ö, "GS" <gsmsnews.microsoft.co....@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: > For running 2 or 3 vms (3x 1GB RAM) on Vista ultimate 64 host with core 2 > quad 2.6 GHz and 8 GB Ram , is vac 2007 better or vs 2005? > with vpc 2007, I get Mac address conflict on VMs whenever I wake the host > from hibernation files,you can copy the hard disk image but make a new VM to access it. |
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| | Re: vpc 2007 vs vs2005 Robert Comer wrote: Quote: > It'd really be best to just save state the VM's before you hibernate, > and start them after you restart your PC. -- David Wilkinson Visual C++ MVP |
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| | Re: vpc 2007 vs vs2005 >I really think there should be an option in VPC for this to happen automatically. I agree, but it'd be a fundamental change for the host OS. (it doesn't tell apps it's hibernating now, so there's no way for VPC to know.) -- Bob Comer On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:29:07 -0400, David Wilkinson <no-reply@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Robert Comer wrote: Quote: >> It'd really be best to just save state the VM's before you hibernate, >> and start them after you restart your PC. >I really think there should be an option in VPC for this to happen automatically. |
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| | Re: vpc 2007 vs vs2005 Robert Comer wrote: Quote: Quote: >> I really think there should be an option in VPC for this to happen automatically. > I agree, but it'd be a fundamental change for the host OS. (it > doesn't tell apps it's hibernating now, so there's no way for VPC to > know.) > The WM_POWERBROADCAST message is sent to all open applications when the host is going into hibernation. But ISTR that on Vista and above applications have limited ability to delay the hibernation. -- David Wilkinson Visual C++ MVP |
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| | Re: vpc 2007 vs vs2005 Interesting, I didn't know that. You sure it sends a broadcast on hibernate? Looking at the docs it looks more like it's sleep type events. -- Bob Comer On Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:28:19 -0400, David Wilkinson <no-reply@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >Robert Comer wrote: Quote: Quote: >>> I really think there should be an option in VPC for this to happen automatically. >> I agree, but it'd be a fundamental change for the host OS. (it >> doesn't tell apps it's hibernating now, so there's no way for VPC to >> know.) >> >Robert: > >The WM_POWERBROADCAST message is sent to all open applications when the host is >going into hibernation. > >But ISTR that on Vista and above applications have limited ability to delay the >hibernation. |
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