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Old 07-21-2009   #1 (permalink)
Rich Cini


 
 

RE: Debugger??

"Lifesnadir" wrote:
Quote:

> My sent message never posted so 2nd attempt.
>
> Not sure I'm in the right forum.
>
> My system -
> WinXP Pro SP 2 with critical updates
> Norton Internet Security 2007 new install - no viruses
> Lavasoft adaware - no spyware
> Something called Big Fix - came with Windows install from drive partition --
> I never use it, don't understand it.
> A Dr something program - shows up when a program crashes and shuts down -
> came with Windows install from drive partition
> AOL 9.0 and IE6
<snip>

To bring this back to a VPC topic, is there a way (or does the capability
exist but I haven't found it) to break execution of the virtualization and
see/modify the the virtual machine registers? There are some situations in
which I wish I could break execution of the virtual machine and see what's
going on -- think SoftICE but one running at the virtual hardware level and
not within the machine context.

I recognize that emulation is different than virtualization, but many system
emulators I work with for "vintage" computers have this capability and I find
it handy. Yes, it's cheating a little, but I find it helpful.

Thanks.



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-22-2009   #2 (permalink)
Benjamin Armstrong [MSFT]


 
 

Re: Debugger??

There is no way to do this.

Cheers,
Benjamin Armstrong
===========================
Senior Program Manager Lead
Windows Virtualization

Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/Virtual_PC_Guy
Book: http://tinyurl.com/ysxcbm

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights. You assume all risk for your use.

Rich Cini wrote:
Quote:

> "Lifesnadir" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> My sent message never posted so 2nd attempt.
>>
>> Not sure I'm in the right forum.
>>
>> My system -
>> WinXP Pro SP 2 with critical updates
>> Norton Internet Security 2007 new install - no viruses
>> Lavasoft adaware - no spyware
>> Something called Big Fix - came with Windows install from drive partition --
>> I never use it, don't understand it.
>> A Dr something program - shows up when a program crashes and shuts down -
>> came with Windows install from drive partition
>> AOL 9.0 and IE6
>
> <snip>
>
> To bring this back to a VPC topic, is there a way (or does the capability
> exist but I haven't found it) to break execution of the virtualization and
> see/modify the the virtual machine registers? There are some situations in
> which I wish I could break execution of the virtual machine and see what's
> going on -- think SoftICE but one running at the virtual hardware level and
> not within the machine context.
>
> I recognize that emulation is different than virtualization, but many system
> emulators I work with for "vintage" computers have this capability and I find
> it handy. Yes, it's cheating a little, but I find it helpful.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-22-2009   #3 (permalink)
Rich Cini


 
 

Re: Debugger??

Benjamin --

Thanks. There's my product suggestion for the 2010 version :-)

Is there a public API embedded in the virtualization core which would
allow this? Running an emulation project of my own, I have some programming
experience that maybe I could tackle this.

Rich


"Benjamin Armstrong [MSFT]" wrote:
Quote:

> There is no way to do this.
>
> Cheers,
> Benjamin Armstrong
> ===========================
> Senior Program Manager Lead
> Windows Virtualization
>
> Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/Virtual_PC_Guy
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/ysxcbm
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights. You assume all risk for your use.
>
> Rich Cini wrote:
Quote:

> > "Lifesnadir" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >> My sent message never posted so 2nd attempt.
> >>
> >> Not sure I'm in the right forum.
> >>
> >> My system -
> >> WinXP Pro SP 2 with critical updates
> >> Norton Internet Security 2007 new install - no viruses
> >> Lavasoft adaware - no spyware
> >> Something called Big Fix - came with Windows install from drive partition --
> >> I never use it, don't understand it.
> >> A Dr something program - shows up when a program crashes and shuts down -
> >> came with Windows install from drive partition
> >> AOL 9.0 and IE6
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > To bring this back to a VPC topic, is there a way (or does the capability
> > exist but I haven't found it) to break execution of the virtualization and
> > see/modify the the virtual machine registers? There are some situations in
> > which I wish I could break execution of the virtual machine and see what's
> > going on -- think SoftICE but one running at the virtual hardware level and
> > not within the machine context.
> >
> > I recognize that emulation is different than virtualization, but many system
> > emulators I work with for "vintage" computers have this capability and I find
> > it handy. Yes, it's cheating a little, but I find it helpful.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-23-2009   #4 (permalink)
Benjamin Armstrong [MSFT]


 
 

Re: Debugger??

There is no API for this either.

Cheers,
Benjamin Armstrong
===========================
Senior Program Manager Lead
Windows Virtualization

Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/Virtual_PC_Guy
Book: http://tinyurl.com/ysxcbm

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights. You assume all risk for your use.

Rich Cini wrote:
Quote:

> Benjamin --
>
> Thanks. There's my product suggestion for the 2010 version :-)
>
> Is there a public API embedded in the virtualization core which would
> allow this? Running an emulation project of my own, I have some programming
> experience that maybe I could tackle this.
>
> Rich
>
>
> "Benjamin Armstrong [MSFT]" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> There is no way to do this.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Benjamin Armstrong
>> ===========================
>> Senior Program Manager Lead
>> Windows Virtualization
>>
>> Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/Virtual_PC_Guy
>> Book: http://tinyurl.com/ysxcbm
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights. You assume all risk for your use.
>>
>> Rich Cini wrote:
Quote:

>>> "Lifesnadir" wrote:
>>>
>>>> My sent message never posted so 2nd attempt.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure I'm in the right forum.
>>>>
>>>> My system -
>>>> WinXP Pro SP 2 with critical updates
>>>> Norton Internet Security 2007 new install - no viruses
>>>> Lavasoft adaware - no spyware
>>>> Something called Big Fix - came with Windows install from drive partition --
>>>> I never use it, don't understand it.
>>>> A Dr something program - shows up when a program crashes and shuts down -
>>>> came with Windows install from drive partition
>>>> AOL 9.0 and IE6
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> To bring this back to a VPC topic, is there a way (or does the capability
>>> exist but I haven't found it) to break execution of the virtualization and
>>> see/modify the the virtual machine registers? There are some situations in
>>> which I wish I could break execution of the virtual machine and see what's
>>> going on -- think SoftICE but one running at the virtual hardware level and
>>> not within the machine context.
>>>
>>> I recognize that emulation is different than virtualization, but many system
>>> emulators I work with for "vintage" computers have this capability and I find
>>> it handy. Yes, it's cheating a little, but I find it helpful.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 07-23-2009   #5 (permalink)
Rich Cini


 
 

Re: Debugger??

Ok, thanks a lot. An API is my product suggestion #2. You just need a few
callback registration routines and you should be good to go.

"Benjamin Armstrong [MSFT]" wrote:
Quote:

> There is no API for this either.
>
> Cheers,
> Benjamin Armstrong
> ===========================
> Senior Program Manager Lead
> Windows Virtualization
>
> Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/Virtual_PC_Guy
> Book: http://tinyurl.com/ysxcbm
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights. You assume all risk for your use.
>
> Rich Cini wrote:
Quote:

> > Benjamin --
> >
> > Thanks. There's my product suggestion for the 2010 version :-)
> >
> > Is there a public API embedded in the virtualization core which would
> > allow this? Running an emulation project of my own, I have some programming
> > experience that maybe I could tackle this.
> >
> > Rich
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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