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| | windows 7 upgrade disc Hope I am not abusing the privilege, but I am back with another question I don't see yet having been asked. Specifically, my old Sony Viao notebook just died, and I got an HP Pavilion running Vista 64 Home Premium. As is the case with most systems currently selling, I have signed up for a free Windows 7 upgrade disc, to be shipped in October. So, the questions which arise include: 1. Would one anticipate this to be a fully operational OS disc which could be loaded into Virtual PC? Despite the favorable preliminary impressions many of us have of Windows 7, I am tempted to try running it in a virtual environment before considering upgrading my notebook OS. 2. If it IS fully operational, and if after a reasonable period of time it seems to be running well, would one anticipate a licensing problem if I were to then proceed with the notebook OS upgrade from Vista to Windows 7? The notebook definitely has enough CPU power and RAM to handle Virtual PC 2007. I realize Virtual PC 2007 is not supported for this version of Vista, but I have read enough posts here to know to ignore that! Thanks as always for the help those of you "in the know" consistently provide. Peter |
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| | Re: windows 7 upgrade disc On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:32:01 -0700, petergoode <petergoode@xxxxxx-microsoft.com> wrote: Quote: >Hope I am not abusing the privilege, but I am back with another question I >don't see yet having been asked. > >Specifically, my old Sony Viao notebook just died, and I got an HP Pavilion >running Vista 64 Home Premium. As is the case with most systems currently >selling, I have signed up for a free Windows 7 upgrade disc, to be shipped in >October. > >So, the questions which arise include: > >1. Would one anticipate this to be a fully operational OS disc which could >be loaded into Virtual PC? Despite the favorable preliminary impressions >many of us have of Windows 7, I am tempted to try running it in a virtual >environment before considering upgrading my notebook OS. upgrade. Quote: > >2. If it IS fully operational, and if after a reasonable period of time it >seems to be running well, would one anticipate a licensing problem if I were >to then proceed with the notebook OS upgrade from Vista to Windows 7? to be run in a VM, only on your HP hardware. Also, many OEMs installation media is BIOS locked to specific hardware, i.e. your HP which your VM won't have preventing you from installing. Quote: > >The notebook definitely has enough CPU power and RAM to handle Virtual PC >2007. I realize Virtual PC 2007 is not supported for this version of Vista, >but I have read enough posts here to know to ignore that! hotfix, see KB 958162 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958162 -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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| | Re: windows 7 upgrade disc Thanks of course for the answer...pretty much what I expected...when I originally started with Virtual PC, I really started from ground zero...and you explained why my Dell OEM Windows 98 could not be used on Virtual PC on my XP Pro system...so, of course, a trip to ebay and one Windows 98SE purchase later, and I was in business...so much for the idea of trying out the commercial Windows 7 on Virtual PC without shelling out bucks! "Steve Jain [MVP]" wrote: Quote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 12:32:01 -0700, petergoode > <petergoode@xxxxxx-microsoft.com> wrote: > Quote: > >Hope I am not abusing the privilege, but I am back with another question I > >don't see yet having been asked. > > > >Specifically, my old Sony Viao notebook just died, and I got an HP Pavilion > >running Vista 64 Home Premium. As is the case with most systems currently > >selling, I have signed up for a free Windows 7 upgrade disc, to be shipped in > >October. > > > >So, the questions which arise include: > > > >1. Would one anticipate this to be a fully operational OS disc which could > >be loaded into Virtual PC? Despite the favorable preliminary impressions > >many of us have of Windows 7, I am tempted to try running it in a virtual > >environment before considering upgrading my notebook OS. > hard to say what HP will ship, OEM replacement, OEM upgrade, std. > upgrade. > Quote: > > > >2. If it IS fully operational, and if after a reasonable period of time it > >seems to be running well, would one anticipate a licensing problem if I were > >to then proceed with the notebook OS upgrade from Vista to Windows 7? > It would be the other way around, your Win7 disc likely isn't licensed > to be run in a VM, only on your HP hardware. Also, many OEMs > installation media is BIOS locked to specific hardware, i.e. your HP > which your VM won't have preventing you from installing. > Quote: > > > >The notebook definitely has enough CPU power and RAM to handle Virtual PC > >2007. I realize Virtual PC 2007 is not supported for this version of Vista, > >but I have read enough posts here to know to ignore that! > Vista Home SP1 (and XP home sp2/3) are supported OS with the SP1 > hotfix, see KB 958162 > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/958162 > > -- > Cheers, > Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP > http://vpc.essjae.com/ > |
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| | Re: windows 7 upgrade disc On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:38:01 -0700, petergoode <petergoode@xxxxxx-microsoft.com> wrote: Quote: >Thanks of course for the answer...pretty much what I expected...when I >originally started with Virtual PC, I really started from ground zero...and >you explained why my Dell OEM Windows 98 could not be used on Virtual PC on >my XP Pro system...so, of course, a trip to ebay and one Windows 98SE >purchase later, and I was in business...so much for the idea of trying out >the commercial Windows 7 on Virtual PC without shelling out bucks! > VM and give it a whirl, that's what makes VMs do great. :-) -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ |
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| | Re: windows 7 upgrade disc In message <lf7k65pgm5fv12gf9bgs343l7hjjf4om2s@xxxxxx> "Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> was claimed to have wrote: Quote: >On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:38:01 -0700, petergoode ><petergoode@xxxxxx-microsoft.com> wrote: > Quote: >>Thanks of course for the answer...pretty much what I expected...when I >>originally started with Virtual PC, I really started from ground zero...and >>you explained why my Dell OEM Windows 98 could not be used on Virtual PC on >>my XP Pro system...so, of course, a trip to ebay and one Windows 98SE >>purchase later, and I was in business...so much for the idea of trying out >>the commercial Windows 7 on Virtual PC without shelling out bucks! >> >You can try, you never know, it may work... Doesn't hurt to build a >VM and give it a whirl, that's what makes VMs do great. :-) days of use without risking any activation issues when you install on hardware later This will work assuming the DVD you get is a W7 DVD and not a system recovery/store DVD -- Could go either way, I've seen both in the Vista era, and would expect to see both in W7 too. |
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| | Re: windows 7 upgrade disc Very interesting idea! Thanks for that suggestion. "Dave Warren" wrote: Quote: > In message <lf7k65pgm5fv12gf9bgs343l7hjjf4om2s@xxxxxx> "Steve Jain > [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> was claimed to have wrote: > Quote: > >On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:38:01 -0700, petergoode > ><petergoode@xxxxxx-microsoft.com> wrote: > > Quote: > >>Thanks of course for the answer...pretty much what I expected...when I > >>originally started with Virtual PC, I really started from ground zero...and > >>you explained why my Dell OEM Windows 98 could not be used on Virtual PC on > >>my XP Pro system...so, of course, a trip to ebay and one Windows 98SE > >>purchase later, and I was in business...so much for the idea of trying out > >>the commercial Windows 7 on Virtual PC without shelling out bucks! > >> > >You can try, you never know, it may work... Doesn't hurt to build a > >VM and give it a whirl, that's what makes VMs do great. :-) > For W7-in-a-VM, just don't enter a serial number/key, this gives you 30 > days of use without risking any activation issues when you install on > hardware later > > This will work assuming the DVD you get is a W7 DVD and not a system > recovery/store DVD -- Could go either way, I've seen both in the Vista > era, and would expect to see both in W7 too. > |
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| | Re: windows 7 upgrade disc petergoode wrote: Quote: > Very interesting idea! Thanks for that suggestion. whether you like it. -- David Wilkinson Visual C++ MVP |
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| | Re: windows 7 upgrade disc "Dave Warren" <dave-usenet@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:01bk65d4e368518te3gqpfcbuadpid3kb9@xxxxxx Quote: > In message <lf7k65pgm5fv12gf9bgs343l7hjjf4om2s@xxxxxx> "Steve Jain > [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> was claimed to have wrote: > Quote: >>On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 13:38:01 -0700, petergoode >><petergoode@xxxxxx-microsoft.com> wrote: >> Quote: >>>Thanks of course for the answer...pretty much what I expected...when I >>>originally started with Virtual PC, I really started from ground >>>zero...and >>>you explained why my Dell OEM Windows 98 could not be used on Virtual PC >>>on >>>my XP Pro system...so, of course, a trip to ebay and one Windows 98SE >>>purchase later, and I was in business...so much for the idea of trying >>>out >>>the commercial Windows 7 on Virtual PC without shelling out bucks! >>> >>You can try, you never know, it may work... Doesn't hurt to build a >>VM and give it a whirl, that's what makes VMs do great. :-) > For W7-in-a-VM, just don't enter a serial number/key, this gives you 30 > days of use without risking any activation issues when you install on > hardware later > > This will work assuming the DVD you get is a W7 DVD and not a system > recovery/store DVD -- Could go either way, I've seen both in the Vista > era, and would expect to see both in W7 too. product key dialog box doesn't appear anyway. In that case the disk would either work or fail silently. |
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| | Re: windows 7 upgrade disc Colin Barnhorst wrote: Quote: > That probably won't work with an OEM disk because if it BIOS locked then > the product key dialog box doesn't appear anyway. In that case the disk > would either work or fail silently. ![]() -- Jane, not plain 64 bit enabled :-)Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-) MVP - Windows Desktop Experience 2007-2009 |
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| | Re: windows 7 upgrade disc On Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:53:14 -0700, Dave Warren <dave-usenet@xxxxxx> wrote: Quote: >This will work assuming the DVD you get is a W7 DVD and not a system >recovery/store DVD -- Could go either way, I've seen both in the Vista >era, and would expect to see both in W7 too. 7 at this point in time.... These media are delivered with complete systems and since Win7 has not yet been officially released I'd be surprised if you could find a recovery DVD at all now... -- Bo Berglund |
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