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Old 09-01-2009   #1 (permalink)
Bhavtosh


 
 

Access wireless internet connection host and VPC

hello,
i have come across a major issue where i want to share the wireless internet
connection. let me share my setup details.

i have winXP with sp2 installed as a host OS and i have VPC 2007 on which i
have win 2003 sp3

i have both LAN and wireless card in the machine but i access i'net via
wireless as i have a modem with inbuild wireless in it with DHCP feature
enabled and IP is 192.168.1.1

XP the host OS has "Automatic IP assigment" on wireless adpater and it also
has the VPC services enabled.

XP also has loopback adapter installed with IP of 192.168.1.10 with default
gateway with blank values


now the VPC running with win2003 also has MS loopback adapter with IP of
192.168.1.11 with default gateway with blank values

i want to access internet from my VPC win2003 which im not able to using MS
loopback as not able to access if i select my wireless adapter from "network
connections" in my VPC

please share some directions of how do i solve this strange problem.

--
thanx..
Bhavtosh

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Old 09-01-2009   #2 (permalink)
Bill Grant


 
 

Re: Access wireless internet connection host and VPC



"Bhavtosh" <Bhavtosh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:339A8088-1776-473F-98F1-CA941DC0BEB2@xxxxxx
Quote:

> hello,
> i have come across a major issue where i want to share the wireless
> internet
> connection. let me share my setup details.
>
> i have winXP with sp2 installed as a host OS and i have VPC 2007 on which
> i
> have win 2003 sp3
>
> i have both LAN and wireless card in the machine but i access i'net via
> wireless as i have a modem with inbuild wireless in it with DHCP feature
> enabled and IP is 192.168.1.1
>
> XP the host OS has "Automatic IP assigment" on wireless adpater and it
> also
> has the VPC services enabled.
>
> XP also has loopback adapter installed with IP of 192.168.1.10 with
> default
> gateway with blank values
>
>
> now the VPC running with win2003 also has MS loopback adapter with IP of
> 192.168.1.11 with default gateway with blank values
>
> i want to access internet from my VPC win2003 which im not able to using
> MS
> loopback as not able to access if i select my wireless adapter from
> "network
> connections" in my VPC
>
> please share some directions of how do i solve this strange problem.
>
> --
> thanx..
> Bhavtosh
You do not need the loopback adapter in the guest OS. You link the
virtual NIC in the vm to the loopback adapter in the host.

You need to enable ICS on the host machine to allow the vms to share
your connection. This will configure the loopback adapter to 192.168.0.1 .

From the VPC console, select your vm, click settings and select
networking. For your adapter, select the loopback adapter from the dropdown
list. You NIC in the vm is now in the same network as the loopback adapter
on the host.

You do not need to set the config on this NIC manually. It will get its
network config from ICS (just as the host gets its config from DHCP on your
router). It will get a 192.168.0.x address with 192.168.0.1 as gateway and
DNS address.




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Old 09-02-2009   #3 (permalink)
Bhavtosh


 
 

Re: Access wireless internet connection host and VPC

thanks for directions bill; your response gave me clarity and as per your
details i removed loopback adapter from VPC win2003 device manager section
and there is also a intel 21140 ethernet card which i need to disable or
enable?

do i need not to have any network installed in VPC win2003 from device
manager? i just have to select loopback adapter from the VPC image network
settings and choose from there?

also you mean to say that i shld assign the routher IP in the default
gateway section of loopback adapter in my host XP?

im bit confused here to setup the net access in VPC win2003

please share some steps if possible

--
thanx..
Bhavtosh


"Bill Grant" wrote:
Quote:

>
>
> "Bhavtosh" <Bhavtosh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:339A8088-1776-473F-98F1-CA941DC0BEB2@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > hello,
> > i have come across a major issue where i want to share the wireless
> > internet
> > connection. let me share my setup details.
> >
> > i have winXP with sp2 installed as a host OS and i have VPC 2007 on which
> > i
> > have win 2003 sp3
> >
> > i have both LAN and wireless card in the machine but i access i'net via
> > wireless as i have a modem with inbuild wireless in it with DHCP feature
> > enabled and IP is 192.168.1.1
> >
> > XP the host OS has "Automatic IP assigment" on wireless adpater and it
> > also
> > has the VPC services enabled.
> >
> > XP also has loopback adapter installed with IP of 192.168.1.10 with
> > default
> > gateway with blank values
> >
> >
> > now the VPC running with win2003 also has MS loopback adapter with IP of
> > 192.168.1.11 with default gateway with blank values
> >
> > i want to access internet from my VPC win2003 which im not able to using
> > MS
> > loopback as not able to access if i select my wireless adapter from
> > "network
> > connections" in my VPC
> >
> > please share some directions of how do i solve this strange problem.
> >
> > --
> > thanx..
> > Bhavtosh
>
> You do not need the loopback adapter in the guest OS. You link the
> virtual NIC in the vm to the loopback adapter in the host.
>
> You need to enable ICS on the host machine to allow the vms to share
> your connection. This will configure the loopback adapter to 192.168.0.1 .
>
> From the VPC console, select your vm, click settings and select
> networking. For your adapter, select the loopback adapter from the dropdown
> list. You NIC in the vm is now in the same network as the loopback adapter
> on the host.
>
> You do not need to set the config on this NIC manually. It will get its
> network config from ICS (just as the host gets its config from DHCP on your
> router). It will get a 192.168.0.x address with 192.168.0.1 as gateway and
> DNS address.
>
>
>
>
>
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Old 09-02-2009   #4 (permalink)
Bill Grant


 
 

Re: Access wireless internet connection host and VPC

I presume that you have never used ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). ICS
is a program built into the OS to enable other machines to share your
Internet connection. If you are using Ethernet, you need to have two
connections in the host. One is the connection to the Internet, the other is
a NIC which you connect to the machine sharing the connection. Read up how
ICS works in the help files.

If you are using virtual machines, you do not need the extra NIC for the
client. Instead you install the Microsoft Loopback Adapter in the host
machine. This adapter takes the place of the private NIC.

When you install ICS, it converts the host into a mini NAT router. The
loopback adapter is the "private" interface. Machines connected to this
interface can share the host's Internet connection.

Yes, you need to enable the Ethernet card in the vm. From the VPC
console, this NIC will be shown with a dropdown list of options. Select the
loopback option. Your vm is now connected to the virtual network linked to
the loopback adapter.

If you have set this up correctly, everything now happens automatically.
The vm will get its network config from ICS and share its connection through
your router.

No. I did not say that you had to assign any default gateways. That will
happen automatically. Set the NIC in the vm to get its IP config
automatically (which is the default setting). I tried to explain how it
would work and what the config would look like.

"Bhavtosh" <Bhavtosh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:45FA880A-9029-4484-B59A-B1AD71DDD819@xxxxxx
Quote:

> thanks for directions bill; your response gave me clarity and as per your
> details i removed loopback adapter from VPC win2003 device manager section
> and there is also a intel 21140 ethernet card which i need to disable or
> enable?
>
> do i need not to have any network installed in VPC win2003 from device
> manager? i just have to select loopback adapter from the VPC image network
> settings and choose from there?
>
> also you mean to say that i shld assign the routher IP in the default
> gateway section of loopback adapter in my host XP?
>
> im bit confused here to setup the net access in VPC win2003
>
> please share some steps if possible
>
> --
> thanx..
> Bhavtosh
>
>
> "Bill Grant" wrote:
>
Quote:

>>
>>
>> "Bhavtosh" <Bhavtosh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:339A8088-1776-473F-98F1-CA941DC0BEB2@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > hello,
>> > i have come across a major issue where i want to share the wireless
>> > internet
>> > connection. let me share my setup details.
>> >
>> > i have winXP with sp2 installed as a host OS and i have VPC 2007 on
>> > which
>> > i
>> > have win 2003 sp3
>> >
>> > i have both LAN and wireless card in the machine but i access i'net via
>> > wireless as i have a modem with inbuild wireless in it with DHCP
>> > feature
>> > enabled and IP is 192.168.1.1
>> >
>> > XP the host OS has "Automatic IP assigment" on wireless adpater and it
>> > also
>> > has the VPC services enabled.
>> >
>> > XP also has loopback adapter installed with IP of 192.168.1.10 with
>> > default
>> > gateway with blank values
>> >
>> >
>> > now the VPC running with win2003 also has MS loopback adapter with IP
>> > of
>> > 192.168.1.11 with default gateway with blank values
>> >
>> > i want to access internet from my VPC win2003 which im not able to
>> > using
>> > MS
>> > loopback as not able to access if i select my wireless adapter from
>> > "network
>> > connections" in my VPC
>> >
>> > please share some directions of how do i solve this strange problem.
>> >
>> > --
>> > thanx..
>> > Bhavtosh
>>
>> You do not need the loopback adapter in the guest OS. You link the
>> virtual NIC in the vm to the loopback adapter in the host.
>>
>> You need to enable ICS on the host machine to allow the vms to share
>> your connection. This will configure the loopback adapter to 192.168.0.1
>> .
>>
>> From the VPC console, select your vm, click settings and select
>> networking. For your adapter, select the loopback adapter from the
>> dropdown
>> list. You NIC in the vm is now in the same network as the loopback
>> adapter
>> on the host.
>>
>> You do not need to set the config on this NIC manually. It will get
>> its
>> network config from ICS (just as the host gets its config from DHCP on
>> your
>> router). It will get a 192.168.0.x address with 192.168.0.1 as gateway
>> and
>> DNS address.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Old 09-02-2009   #5 (permalink)
Bhavtosh


 
 

Re: Access wireless internet connection host and VPC

as per your clear and simple steps i have setup the following.

XP has loopback with IP address of 192.168.1.10 and default gateway of
192.168.1.1; my wireless card is enabled with VPC service and ICS as well and
IP is dunamic

VPC win2003 has default intel NIC with dynamic IP but could not get an IP as
windows say limited connectivity.
i selected loopback as a network option for the VPC image OS.

i still cant access internet from VPC? am i missing anything more


--
thanx..
Bhavtosh


"Bill Grant" wrote:
Quote:

> I presume that you have never used ICS (Internet Connection Sharing). ICS
> is a program built into the OS to enable other machines to share your
> Internet connection. If you are using Ethernet, you need to have two
> connections in the host. One is the connection to the Internet, the other is
> a NIC which you connect to the machine sharing the connection. Read up how
> ICS works in the help files.
>
> If you are using virtual machines, you do not need the extra NIC for the
> client. Instead you install the Microsoft Loopback Adapter in the host
> machine. This adapter takes the place of the private NIC.
>
> When you install ICS, it converts the host into a mini NAT router. The
> loopback adapter is the "private" interface. Machines connected to this
> interface can share the host's Internet connection.
>
> Yes, you need to enable the Ethernet card in the vm. From the VPC
> console, this NIC will be shown with a dropdown list of options. Select the
> loopback option. Your vm is now connected to the virtual network linked to
> the loopback adapter.
>
> If you have set this up correctly, everything now happens automatically.
> The vm will get its network config from ICS and share its connection through
> your router.
>
> No. I did not say that you had to assign any default gateways. That will
> happen automatically. Set the NIC in the vm to get its IP config
> automatically (which is the default setting). I tried to explain how it
> would work and what the config would look like.
>
> "Bhavtosh" <Bhavtosh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:45FA880A-9029-4484-B59A-B1AD71DDD819@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > thanks for directions bill; your response gave me clarity and as per your
> > details i removed loopback adapter from VPC win2003 device manager section
> > and there is also a intel 21140 ethernet card which i need to disable or
> > enable?
> >
> > do i need not to have any network installed in VPC win2003 from device
> > manager? i just have to select loopback adapter from the VPC image network
> > settings and choose from there?
> >
> > also you mean to say that i shld assign the routher IP in the default
> > gateway section of loopback adapter in my host XP?
> >
> > im bit confused here to setup the net access in VPC win2003
> >
> > please share some steps if possible
> >
> > --
> > thanx..
> > Bhavtosh
> >
> >
> > "Bill Grant" wrote:
> >
Quote:

> >>
> >>
> >> "Bhavtosh" <Bhavtosh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> news:339A8088-1776-473F-98F1-CA941DC0BEB2@xxxxxx
> >> > hello,
> >> > i have come across a major issue where i want to share the wireless
> >> > internet
> >> > connection. let me share my setup details.
> >> >
> >> > i have winXP with sp2 installed as a host OS and i have VPC 2007 on
> >> > which
> >> > i
> >> > have win 2003 sp3
> >> >
> >> > i have both LAN and wireless card in the machine but i access i'net via
> >> > wireless as i have a modem with inbuild wireless in it with DHCP
> >> > feature
> >> > enabled and IP is 192.168.1.1
> >> >
> >> > XP the host OS has "Automatic IP assigment" on wireless adpater and it
> >> > also
> >> > has the VPC services enabled.
> >> >
> >> > XP also has loopback adapter installed with IP of 192.168.1.10 with
> >> > default
> >> > gateway with blank values
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > now the VPC running with win2003 also has MS loopback adapter with IP
> >> > of
> >> > 192.168.1.11 with default gateway with blank values
> >> >
> >> > i want to access internet from my VPC win2003 which im not able to
> >> > using
> >> > MS
> >> > loopback as not able to access if i select my wireless adapter from
> >> > "network
> >> > connections" in my VPC
> >> >
> >> > please share some directions of how do i solve this strange problem.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > thanx..
> >> > Bhavtosh
> >>
> >> You do not need the loopback adapter in the guest OS. You link the
> >> virtual NIC in the vm to the loopback adapter in the host.
> >>
> >> You need to enable ICS on the host machine to allow the vms to share
> >> your connection. This will configure the loopback adapter to 192.168.0.1
> >> .
> >>
> >> From the VPC console, select your vm, click settings and select
> >> networking. For your adapter, select the loopback adapter from the
> >> dropdown
> >> list. You NIC in the vm is now in the same network as the loopback
> >> adapter
> >> on the host.
> >>
> >> You do not need to set the config on this NIC manually. It will get
> >> its
> >> network config from ICS (just as the host gets its config from DHCP on
> >> your
> >> router). It will get a 192.168.0.x address with 192.168.0.1 as gateway
> >> and
> >> DNS address.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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Old 09-02-2009   #6 (permalink)
Bob Campbell


 
 

Re: Access wireless internet connection host and VPC

"Bhavtosh" <Bhavtosh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:27D169EC-263F-4CB5-8D71-DEEE6399C0E9@xxxxxx
Quote:

> as per your clear and simple steps i have setup the following.
>
> XP has loopback with IP address of 192.168.1.10 and default gateway of
> 192.168.1.1; my wireless card is enabled with VPC service and ICS as well
> and
> IP is dunamic
>
> VPC win2003 has default intel NIC with dynamic IP but could not get an IP
> as
> windows say limited connectivity.
> i selected loopback as a network option for the VPC image OS.
>
> i still cant access internet from VPC? am i missing anything more
You don't need ICS on the host for the VMs. You just need to set your VM
to use the wireless NIC in the settings for the VM. It will then
automatically use the wireless. If you have MAC address security setup in
your wifi router, you need to add the MAC address of the VM to the list of
permitted MAC addresses.

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Old 09-02-2009   #7 (permalink)
Bhavtosh


 
 

Re: Access wireless internet connection host and VPC

great at last im able to access internet. so nice of you to spend time and
efforts in helping out

i have one more query which i will post seperately

thank you so much

--
Bhavtosh


"Bob Campbell" wrote:
Quote:

> "Bhavtosh" <Bhavtosh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:27D169EC-263F-4CB5-8D71-DEEE6399C0E9@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > as per your clear and simple steps i have setup the following.
> >
> > XP has loopback with IP address of 192.168.1.10 and default gateway of
> > 192.168.1.1; my wireless card is enabled with VPC service and ICS as well
> > and
> > IP is dunamic
> >
> > VPC win2003 has default intel NIC with dynamic IP but could not get an IP
> > as
> > windows say limited connectivity.
> > i selected loopback as a network option for the VPC image OS.
> >
> > i still cant access internet from VPC? am i missing anything more
>
> You don't need ICS on the host for the VMs. You just need to set your VM
> to use the wireless NIC in the settings for the VM. It will then
> automatically use the wireless. If you have MAC address security setup in
> your wifi router, you need to add the MAC address of the VM to the list of
> permitted MAC addresses.
>
>
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