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| | VPC2004 Additions and Windows 7 I understand VPC2004 itself doesn't work (or is it just "unsupported"?) in Windows 7. There shouldn't be a problem using the VPC2004 Virtual Machine Additions under VPC2007 in w7, correct? I'm looking to migrate one of my machines from XP to w7/64, and don't want to lose the ability to create new VMs based on that older set of additions. I guess I'm a little unclear, as well, on whether I even need to (or should?) install VPC2007 in that OS, or if it just comes with the system. It appears I should be grabbing the latest from http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir.../download.aspx ? Thanks... Karl -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org |
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| | Re: VPC2004 Additions and Windows 7 Karl E. Peterson wrote: Quote: > I understand VPC2004 itself doesn't work (or is it just "unsupported"?) in Windows > 7. There shouldn't be a problem using the VPC2004 Virtual Machine Additions under > VPC2007 in w7, correct? I'm looking to migrate one of my machines from XP to w7/64, > and don't want to lose the ability to create new VMs based on that older set of > additions. > > I guess I'm a little unclear, as well, on whether I even need to (or should?) > install VPC2007 in that OS, or if it just comes with the system. It appears I > should be grabbing the latest from > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir.../download.aspx ? > > Thanks... Karl Which one you use depends upon the processor, Karl. If the processor supports virtualization and that feature has been enabled in the BIOS, then run Windows Virtual PC on Win7. If it doesn't, use VPC 2007, which is what I'm using. And, the Virtual Additions are built into VPC 2K7, so one does not have to install them as in VPC 2K4. To see if the processor supports virtualization click these links on the middle right hand side of the page you posted: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir.../download.aspx AMD CPUs to ship with virtualization capabilities Intel® Virtualization Technology BTW, the RTM of Windows VPC is now on Technet/MSDN so it should be on the MS Download Center soon. As to MS' definition of 'soon' ... <w> MowGreen =============== *-343-* FDNY Never Forgotten =============== banthecheck.com "Security updates should *never* have *non-security content* prechecked" |
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| | Re: VPC2004 Additions and Windows 7 MowGreen wrote: Quote: > Karl E. Peterson wrote: > Quote: >> I understand VPC2004 itself doesn't work (or is it just "unsupported"?) in >> Windows >> 7. There shouldn't be a problem using the VPC2004 Virtual Machine Additions >> under >> VPC2007 in w7, correct? I'm looking to migrate one of my machines from XP to >> w7/64, and don't want to lose the ability to create new VMs based on that older >> set of additions. >> >> I guess I'm a little unclear, as well, on whether I even need to (or should?) >> install VPC2007 in that OS, or if it just comes with the system. It appears I >> should be grabbing the latest from >> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir.../download.aspx ? > > Which one you use depends upon the processor, Karl. > If the processor supports virtualization and that feature has been > enabled in the BIOS, then run Windows Virtual PC on Win7. > If it doesn't, use VPC 2007, which is what I'm using. just need to enable it in BIOS, and I'll be good there. Why is this the deciding factor -- does WVPC with virtualization significantly outperform VPC2007? Quote: > And, the Virtual Additions are built into VPC 2K7, so one does not have to install > them as in VPC 2K4. some, like older DOS/9x VMs, that just ran better with the 2004 additions IIRC. Quote: > To see if the processor supports virtualization click these links on the > middle right hand side of the page you posted: > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir.../download.aspx Quote: > BTW, the RTM of Windows VPC is now on Technet/MSDN so it should be on > the MS Download Center soon. As to MS' definition of 'soon' ... <w> -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org |
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| | Re: VPC2004 Additions and Windows 7 On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:46:46 -0700, "Karl E. Peterson" <karl@newsgroup> wrote: Quote: >MowGreen wrote: Quote: >> Karl E. Peterson wrote: >> Quote: >>> I understand VPC2004 itself doesn't work (or is it just "unsupported"?) in >>> Windows >>> 7. There shouldn't be a problem using the VPC2004 Virtual Machine Additions >>> under >>> VPC2007 in w7, correct? I'm looking to migrate one of my machines from XP to >>> w7/64, and don't want to lose the ability to create new VMs based on that older >>> set of additions. >>> >>> I guess I'm a little unclear, as well, on whether I even need to (or should?) >>> install VPC2007 in that OS, or if it just comes with the system. It appears I >>> should be grabbing the latest from >>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/vir.../download.aspx ? >> >> Which one you use depends upon the processor, Karl. >> If the processor supports virtualization and that feature has been >> enabled in the BIOS, then run Windows Virtual PC on Win7. >> If it doesn't, use VPC 2007, which is what I'm using. >Okay, I have dual-Xeon 5140s in this box, so that's looking positive. I guess I >just need to enable it in BIOS, and I'll be good there. Quote: >Why is this the deciding >factor -- does WVPC with virtualization significantly outperform VPC2007? You do get USB, and you get the ability to take advantage of mutliple cores/CPUs. Since WindowsVPC is based on Virtual Server, instead of VPC, if you run multiple VMs they can each run in a separate thread on a separate core. With VPC2007, all VMs ran in 1 thread on 1 core. -- Cheers, Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP http://vpc.essjae.com/ http://smudj.wordpress.com/ |
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| | Re: VPC2004 Additions and Windows 7 Steve Jain [MVP] wrote: Quote: Quote: >>Why is this the deciding >>factor -- does WVPC with virtualization significantly outperform VPC2007? > Significantly? Depends, on what you're doing. > > You do get USB, and you get the ability to take advantage of mutliple > cores/CPUs. Since WindowsVPC is based on Virtual Server, instead of > VPC, if you run multiple VMs they can each run in a separate thread on > a separate core. With VPC2007, all VMs ran in 1 thread on 1 core. I'd have to think. Assuming the actual performance isn't bogged down, as one thread ("Windows Virtual PC on Windows 7 very slow network access") seemed to indicate. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org |
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