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Old 08-05-2008   #1 (permalink)
Walt McKinney


 
 

Multiple remote connections?

I have been testing virtualization scenarios and seem to be stuck on one
issue. Is it possible to have multiple remote users connect to a single
virtual machine; each user controlling his or her own environment without
affecting the other users?

Using VMRC, multiple log-ins seem to provide the same desktop. Using the
Windows 'Remote Desktop' utility, the second user to log in bumps the
original user off the machine.

Ideally, I'd like to have several remote users be able to log into a virtual
machine and each user be able to manage his or her own desktop.

Is this even possible with a single virtual machine?

Thanks,
Walt



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Old 08-05-2008   #2 (permalink)
Charlie Russel - MVP


 
 

Re: Multiple remote connections?

The issue is the underlying OS. Client versions of Windows don't support
multiple simultaneous users. What you're really asking for is the
functionality of Windows Server with Terminal Services enabled. I am using
Windows Server 2008 Standard, with the Terminal Server Role installed, as a
Hyper-V child partition. Users connect remotely to their own desktop, or
directly to applications using TS RemoteApps. But this functionality is only
available on Windows Server. Not on a Windows client

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel


"Walt McKinney" <wmckinn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Ova3hgy9IHA.4552@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I have been testing virtualization scenarios and seem to be stuck on one
>issue. Is it possible to have multiple remote users connect to a single
>virtual machine; each user controlling his or her own environment without
>affecting the other users?
>
> Using VMRC, multiple log-ins seem to provide the same desktop. Using the
> Windows 'Remote Desktop' utility, the second user to log in bumps the
> original user off the machine.
>
> Ideally, I'd like to have several remote users be able to log into a
> virtual machine and each user be able to manage his or her own desktop.
>
> Is this even possible with a single virtual machine?
>
> Thanks,
> Walt
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-05-2008   #3 (permalink)
Tim Walsh


 
 

Re: Multiple remote connections?

What OS is the VM running?
Windows XP & Vista's Terminal Services only support 1 user/desktop at a time
Windows 2k and 2k3 support 2 administrator connections at the same time with
separate desktops. You can buy licenses and run TS in application mode to
have multiple desktops enabled and in use.

I suspect your running either XP or Vista.



"Walt McKinney" <wmckinn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Ova3hgy9IHA.4552@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I have been testing virtualization scenarios and seem to be stuck on one
>issue. Is it possible to have multiple remote users connect to a single
>virtual machine; each user controlling his or her own environment without
>affecting the other users?
>
> Using VMRC, multiple log-ins seem to provide the same desktop. Using the
> Windows 'Remote Desktop' utility, the second user to log in bumps the
> original user off the machine.
>
> Ideally, I'd like to have several remote users be able to log into a
> virtual machine and each user be able to manage his or her own desktop.
>
> Is this even possible with a single virtual machine?
>
> Thanks,
> Walt
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-05-2008   #4 (permalink)
Walt McKinney


 
 

Re: Multiple remote connections?

I am running an XP host machine on Windows 2003 server.

It sounds like I need to look into the TS application mode you are refering
to.

Thanks for the advice,

Walt

"Tim Walsh" <tmwalsh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OHk$12y9IHA.4492@xxxxxx
Quote:

> What OS is the VM running?
> Windows XP & Vista's Terminal Services only support 1 user/desktop at a
> time
> Windows 2k and 2k3 support 2 administrator connections at the same time
> with separate desktops. You can buy licenses and run TS in application
> mode to have multiple desktops enabled and in use.
>
> I suspect your running either XP or Vista.
>
>
>
> "Walt McKinney" <wmckinn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:Ova3hgy9IHA.4552@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>I have been testing virtualization scenarios and seem to be stuck on one
>>issue. Is it possible to have multiple remote users connect to a single
>>virtual machine; each user controlling his or her own environment without
>>affecting the other users?
>>
>> Using VMRC, multiple log-ins seem to provide the same desktop. Using the
>> Windows 'Remote Desktop' utility, the second user to log in bumps the
>> original user off the machine.
>>
>> Ideally, I'd like to have several remote users be able to log into a
>> virtual machine and each user be able to manage his or her own desktop.
>>
>> Is this even possible with a single virtual machine?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Walt
>>
>
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-05-2008   #5 (permalink)
Walt McKinney


 
 

Re: Multiple remote connections?

Thank you for the input.

Walt


"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Oa5FHwy9IHA.1196@xxxxxx
Quote:

> The issue is the underlying OS. Client versions of Windows don't support
> multiple simultaneous users. What you're really asking for is the
> functionality of Windows Server with Terminal Services enabled. I am using
> Windows Server 2008 Standard, with the Terminal Server Role installed, as
> a Hyper-V child partition. Users connect remotely to their own desktop, or
> directly to applications using TS RemoteApps. But this functionality is
> only available on Windows Server. Not on a Windows client
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
> "Walt McKinney" <wmckinn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:Ova3hgy9IHA.4552@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>I have been testing virtualization scenarios and seem to be stuck on one
>>issue. Is it possible to have multiple remote users connect to a single
>>virtual machine; each user controlling his or her own environment without
>>affecting the other users?
>>
>> Using VMRC, multiple log-ins seem to provide the same desktop. Using the
>> Windows 'Remote Desktop' utility, the second user to log in bumps the
>> original user off the machine.
>>
>> Ideally, I'd like to have several remote users be able to log into a
>> virtual machine and each user be able to manage his or her own desktop.
>>
>> Is this even possible with a single virtual machine?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Walt
>>
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-05-2008   #6 (permalink)
Tim Walsh


 
 

Re: Multiple remote connections?

Walt,

The VM needs to be running a server edition of windows, XP and Vista don't
run the TS Application version that I'm aware of.
Don't mistake the VM for the Windows 2003 server host machine.

Depending on how many users you need, and which flavor of Win2K3 your
running, you might be able to run 4 VMs with Win 2k3 installed in admin
mode, that would get you 8 user desktops. Performance might be an issue
depending on your hardware, and the users could affect each other by
shutting down or rebooting their VM.

Regards
Tim

"Walt McKinney" <wmckinn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OKWerBz9IHA.2348@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I am running an XP host machine on Windows 2003 server.
>
> It sounds like I need to look into the TS application mode you are
> refering to.
>
> Thanks for the advice,
>
> Walt
>
> "Tim Walsh" <tmwalsh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OHk$12y9IHA.4492@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> What OS is the VM running?
>> Windows XP & Vista's Terminal Services only support 1 user/desktop at a
>> time
>> Windows 2k and 2k3 support 2 administrator connections at the same time
>> with separate desktops. You can buy licenses and run TS in application
>> mode to have multiple desktops enabled and in use.
>>
>> I suspect your running either XP or Vista.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Walt McKinney" <wmckinn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:Ova3hgy9IHA.4552@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>>I have been testing virtualization scenarios and seem to be stuck on one
>>>issue. Is it possible to have multiple remote users connect to a single
>>>virtual machine; each user controlling his or her own environment without
>>>affecting the other users?
>>>
>>> Using VMRC, multiple log-ins seem to provide the same desktop. Using the
>>> Windows 'Remote Desktop' utility, the second user to log in bumps the
>>> original user off the machine.
>>>
>>> Ideally, I'd like to have several remote users be able to log into a
>>> virtual machine and each user be able to manage his or her own desktop.
>>>
>>> Is this even possible with a single virtual machine?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Walt
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 08-07-2008   #7 (permalink)
Walt McKinney


 
 

Re: Multiple remote connections?

Okay; thanks for the information Tim.

Walt

"Tim Walsh" <tmwalsh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:u9bilHz9IHA.2336@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Walt,
>
> The VM needs to be running a server edition of windows, XP and Vista don't
> run the TS Application version that I'm aware of.
> Don't mistake the VM for the Windows 2003 server host machine.
>
> Depending on how many users you need, and which flavor of Win2K3 your
> running, you might be able to run 4 VMs with Win 2k3 installed in admin
> mode, that would get you 8 user desktops. Performance might be an issue
> depending on your hardware, and the users could affect each other by
> shutting down or rebooting their VM.
>
> Regards
> Tim
>
> "Walt McKinney" <wmckinn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OKWerBz9IHA.2348@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>I am running an XP host machine on Windows 2003 server.
>>
>> It sounds like I need to look into the TS application mode you are
>> refering to.
>>
>> Thanks for the advice,
>>
>> Walt
>>
>> "Tim Walsh" <tmwalsh@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OHk$12y9IHA.4492@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> What OS is the VM running?
>>> Windows XP & Vista's Terminal Services only support 1 user/desktop at a
>>> time
>>> Windows 2k and 2k3 support 2 administrator connections at the same time
>>> with separate desktops. You can buy licenses and run TS in application
>>> mode to have multiple desktops enabled and in use.
>>>
>>> I suspect your running either XP or Vista.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Walt McKinney" <wmckinn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:Ova3hgy9IHA.4552@xxxxxx
>>>>I have been testing virtualization scenarios and seem to be stuck on one
>>>>issue. Is it possible to have multiple remote users connect to a single
>>>>virtual machine; each user controlling his or her own environment
>>>>without affecting the other users?
>>>>
>>>> Using VMRC, multiple log-ins seem to provide the same desktop. Using
>>>> the Windows 'Remote Desktop' utility, the second user to log in bumps
>>>> the original user off the machine.
>>>>
>>>> Ideally, I'd like to have several remote users be able to log into a
>>>> virtual machine and each user be able to manage his or her own desktop.
>>>>
>>>> Is this even possible with a single virtual machine?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Walt
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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