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Old 09-13-2008   #1 (permalink)
Richard Martin


 
 

Virtual OS can't connect to internet

Hi

My PC :
Windows vista ultimate SP1
4GB Ram
Direct Cable internet connection
Virtual Server R2 SP1 installed

Virtual OS :
Windows 2003 Server enterprise

Everything is installed correctly (I think), I can access the Admin web page
and I can
start my virtual OS but I can't have access to internet in my virtual OS.

I did many search on web but I can't find a clear way to fix that with clear
steps
on how to fix the issue ? I have installed a Loopback adapter on my vista
but I
don't really know if I have to set some stuff in it (like IP, gateway, dns
....) ? I have also created a virtual network
that connect to the Loopback adapter (But I don't know if I have to make any
setting in virtual server
for that virtual network like DHCP ???). I'm not an expert on network stuff.

Anybody can help ??? Please

Thank you very much !

Richard Martin


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Old 09-13-2008   #2 (permalink)
Bill Grant


 
 

Re: Virtual OS can't connect to internet



"Richard Martin" <martinr0829@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eFvp5gVFJHA.2508@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Hi
>
> My PC :
> Windows vista ultimate SP1
> 4GB Ram
> Direct Cable internet connection
> Virtual Server R2 SP1 installed
>
> Virtual OS :
> Windows 2003 Server enterprise
>
> Everything is installed correctly (I think), I can access the Admin web
> page and I can
> start my virtual OS but I can't have access to internet in my virtual OS.
>
> I did many search on web but I can't find a clear way to fix that with
> clear steps
> on how to fix the issue ? I have installed a Loopback adapter on my vista
> but I
> don't really know if I have to set some stuff in it (like IP, gateway, dns
> ...) ? I have also created a virtual network
> that connect to the Loopback adapter (But I don't know if I have to make
> any setting in virtual server
> for that virtual network like DHCP ???). I'm not an expert on network
> stuff.
>
> Anybody can help ??? Please
>
> Thank you very much !
>
> Richard Martin
Installing the loopback adapter is a good start. Now you need to install
ICS on the host. Type "share internet connection" into Help and Support for
details of how to do that in Vista. Your cable connection is the one you
want to share and the loopback adapter is the private interface.

Now connect the NIC in the vm to the loopback network (from the settings
option in the VPC console). When you boot the vm it will get its network
config from ICS (it has a built-in mini-DHCP service) and will connect to
the Internet by sharing the host's connection. ICS is a cut-down version of
NAT.

There is another problem which may occur because your guest is running
Server 2003. The server might try to use its own IP address for DNS. If this
happens you need to manually set it to use 192.168.0.1 (which is the
loopback adapter address).



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Old 09-13-2008   #3 (permalink)
Richard Martin


 
 

Re: Virtual OS can't connect to internet

Hi Bill

Thank you very much for the help. It worked like a charm.

I'm sooo happy now

Richard Martin

"Bill Grant" <not.available@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:#a$Hi3VFJHA.5224@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
>
> "Richard Martin" <martinr0829@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eFvp5gVFJHA.2508@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Hi
>>
>> My PC :
>> Windows vista ultimate SP1
>> 4GB Ram
>> Direct Cable internet connection
>> Virtual Server R2 SP1 installed
>>
>> Virtual OS :
>> Windows 2003 Server enterprise
>>
>> Everything is installed correctly (I think), I can access the Admin web
>> page and I can
>> start my virtual OS but I can't have access to internet in my virtual OS.
>>
>> I did many search on web but I can't find a clear way to fix that with
>> clear steps
>> on how to fix the issue ? I have installed a Loopback adapter on my vista
>> but I
>> don't really know if I have to set some stuff in it (like IP, gateway,
>> dns ...) ? I have also created a virtual network
>> that connect to the Loopback adapter (But I don't know if I have to make
>> any setting in virtual server
>> for that virtual network like DHCP ???). I'm not an expert on network
>> stuff.
>>
>> Anybody can help ??? Please
>>
>> Thank you very much !
>>
>> Richard Martin
>
> Installing the loopback adapter is a good start. Now you need to
> install ICS on the host. Type "share internet connection" into Help and
> Support for details of how to do that in Vista. Your cable connection is
> the one you want to share and the loopback adapter is the private
> interface.
>
> Now connect the NIC in the vm to the loopback network (from the
> settings option in the VPC console). When you boot the vm it will get its
> network config from ICS (it has a built-in mini-DHCP service) and will
> connect to the Internet by sharing the host's connection. ICS is a
> cut-down version of NAT.
>
> There is another problem which may occur because your guest is running
> Server 2003. The server might try to use its own IP address for DNS. If
> this happens you need to manually set it to use 192.168.0.1 (which is the
> loopback adapter address).
>
>
>
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Old 09-14-2008   #4 (permalink)
Gilgamesh


 
 

Re: Virtual OS can't connect to internet

Is this configuration going to work if there're multiple VMs on the same
host?

Gilgamesh

"Bill Grant" <not.available@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23a$Hi3VFJHA.5224@xxxxxx
Quote:

>
>
> "Richard Martin" <martinr0829@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eFvp5gVFJHA.2508@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Hi
>>
>> My PC :
>> Windows vista ultimate SP1
>> 4GB Ram
>> Direct Cable internet connection
>> Virtual Server R2 SP1 installed
>>
>> Virtual OS :
>> Windows 2003 Server enterprise
>>
>> Everything is installed correctly (I think), I can access the Admin web
>> page and I can
>> start my virtual OS but I can't have access to internet in my virtual OS.
>>
>> I did many search on web but I can't find a clear way to fix that with
>> clear steps
>> on how to fix the issue ? I have installed a Loopback adapter on my vista
>> but I
>> don't really know if I have to set some stuff in it (like IP, gateway,
>> dns ...) ? I have also created a virtual network
>> that connect to the Loopback adapter (But I don't know if I have to make
>> any setting in virtual server
>> for that virtual network like DHCP ???). I'm not an expert on network
>> stuff.
>>
>> Anybody can help ??? Please
>>
>> Thank you very much !
>>
>> Richard Martin
>
> Installing the loopback adapter is a good start. Now you need to
> install ICS on the host. Type "share internet connection" into Help and
> Support for details of how to do that in Vista. Your cable connection is
> the one you want to share and the loopback adapter is the private
> interface.
>
> Now connect the NIC in the vm to the loopback network (from the
> settings option in the VPC console). When you boot the vm it will get its
> network config from ICS (it has a built-in mini-DHCP service) and will
> connect to the Internet by sharing the host's connection. ICS is a
> cut-down version of NAT.
>
> There is another problem which may occur because your guest is running
> Server 2003. The server might try to use its own IP address for DNS. If
> this happens you need to manually set it to use 192.168.0.1 (which is the
> loopback adapter address).
>
>
>

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Old 09-14-2008   #5 (permalink)
Bill Grant


 
 

Re: Virtual OS can't connect to internet

Why not? Each machine on the virtual network is sharing the network
connection of the host. The only limit would be the number of IP addresses
available from ICS, which is over 250!

"Gilgamesh" <Gilgamesh4Ever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:e1swBXpFJHA.224@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Is this configuration going to work if there're multiple VMs on the same
> host?
>
> Gilgamesh
>
> "Bill Grant" <not.available@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23a$Hi3VFJHA.5224@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>
>>
>> "Richard Martin" <martinr0829@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eFvp5gVFJHA.2508@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> Hi
>>>
>>> My PC :
>>> Windows vista ultimate SP1
>>> 4GB Ram
>>> Direct Cable internet connection
>>> Virtual Server R2 SP1 installed
>>>
>>> Virtual OS :
>>> Windows 2003 Server enterprise
>>>
>>> Everything is installed correctly (I think), I can access the Admin web
>>> page and I can
>>> start my virtual OS but I can't have access to internet in my virtual
>>> OS.
>>>
>>> I did many search on web but I can't find a clear way to fix that with
>>> clear steps
>>> on how to fix the issue ? I have installed a Loopback adapter on my
>>> vista but I
>>> don't really know if I have to set some stuff in it (like IP, gateway,
>>> dns ...) ? I have also created a virtual network
>>> that connect to the Loopback adapter (But I don't know if I have to make
>>> any setting in virtual server
>>> for that virtual network like DHCP ???). I'm not an expert on network
>>> stuff.
>>>
>>> Anybody can help ??? Please
>>>
>>> Thank you very much !
>>>
>>> Richard Martin
>>
>> Installing the loopback adapter is a good start. Now you need to
>> install ICS on the host. Type "share internet connection" into Help and
>> Support for details of how to do that in Vista. Your cable connection is
>> the one you want to share and the loopback adapter is the private
>> interface.
>>
>> Now connect the NIC in the vm to the loopback network (from the
>> settings option in the VPC console). When you boot the vm it will get its
>> network config from ICS (it has a built-in mini-DHCP service) and will
>> connect to the Internet by sharing the host's connection. ICS is a
>> cut-down version of NAT.
>>
>> There is another problem which may occur because your guest is running
>> Server 2003. The server might try to use its own IP address for DNS. If
>> this happens you need to manually set it to use 192.168.0.1 (which is the
>> loopback adapter address).
>>
>>
>>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-15-2008   #6 (permalink)
Gilgamesh


 
 

Re: Virtual OS can't connect to internet

I had Virtual PC installed on Windows 2003 SP2, and I was able to connect an
XP pro VPC to internet. I then installed VIrtual Server 2005 because I
wanted to have Windows Server 2008 also hosted on this machine. Now if I
bring up XP within Virtual Server, it doesn't connect to internet even
thourgh I select loop back adaptor. So, somthing within Virtual server isn't
consistant with VPC and they don't function the same way.

Bottom line, after installing Windows server 2008 as virtual server, I can
neither have XP connected to internet no server 2008.

-G



"Bill Grant" <not.available@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%239MIK%23sFJHA.4304@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Why not? Each machine on the virtual network is sharing the network
> connection of the host. The only limit would be the number of IP addresses
> available from ICS, which is over 250!
>
> "Gilgamesh" <Gilgamesh4Ever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:e1swBXpFJHA.224@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Is this configuration going to work if there're multiple VMs on the same
>> host?
>>
>> Gilgamesh
>>
>> "Bill Grant" <not.available@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:%23a$Hi3VFJHA.5224@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>>
>>>
>>> "Richard Martin" <martinr0829@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:eFvp5gVFJHA.2508@xxxxxx
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> My PC :
>>>> Windows vista ultimate SP1
>>>> 4GB Ram
>>>> Direct Cable internet connection
>>>> Virtual Server R2 SP1 installed
>>>>
>>>> Virtual OS :
>>>> Windows 2003 Server enterprise
>>>>
>>>> Everything is installed correctly (I think), I can access the Admin web
>>>> page and I can
>>>> start my virtual OS but I can't have access to internet in my virtual
>>>> OS.
>>>>
>>>> I did many search on web but I can't find a clear way to fix that with
>>>> clear steps
>>>> on how to fix the issue ? I have installed a Loopback adapter on my
>>>> vista but I
>>>> don't really know if I have to set some stuff in it (like IP, gateway,
>>>> dns ...) ? I have also created a virtual network
>>>> that connect to the Loopback adapter (But I don't know if I have to
>>>> make any setting in virtual server
>>>> for that virtual network like DHCP ???). I'm not an expert on network
>>>> stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody can help ??? Please
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much !
>>>>
>>>> Richard Martin
>>>
>>> Installing the loopback adapter is a good start. Now you need to
>>> install ICS on the host. Type "share internet connection" into Help and
>>> Support for details of how to do that in Vista. Your cable connection is
>>> the one you want to share and the loopback adapter is the private
>>> interface.
>>>
>>> Now connect the NIC in the vm to the loopback network (from the
>>> settings option in the VPC console). When you boot the vm it will get
>>> its network config from ICS (it has a built-in mini-DHCP service) and
>>> will connect to the Internet by sharing the host's connection. ICS is a
>>> cut-down version of NAT.
>>>
>>> There is another problem which may occur because your guest is running
>>> Server 2003. The server might try to use its own IP address for DNS. If
>>> this happens you need to manually set it to use 192.168.0.1 (which is
>>> the loopback adapter address).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>

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Old 09-15-2008   #7 (permalink)
Steve Jain


 
 

Re: Virtual OS can't connect to internet

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:36:38 -0700, "Gilgamesh"
<Gilgamesh4Ever@xxxxxx> wrote:
Quote:

>I had Virtual PC installed on Windows 2003 SP2, and I was able to connect an
>XP pro VPC to internet. I then installed VIrtual Server 2005 because I
>wanted to have Windows Server 2008 also hosted on this machine. Now if I
>bring up XP within Virtual Server, it doesn't connect to internet even
>thourgh I select loop back adaptor. So, somthing within Virtual server isn't
>consistant with VPC and they don't function the same way.
>
>Bottom line, after installing Windows server 2008 as virtual server, I can
>neither have XP connected to internet no server 2008.
>
>-G
>
Not to change the subject, but you know you can install Windows 2008
Server in VPC? You don't need to use Virtual Server to install a
server OS.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
I do not work for Microsoft.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-15-2008   #8 (permalink)
Gilgamesh


 
 

Re: Virtual OS can't connect to internet

Good point. I was able to start server 2008 from VPC but still can't connect
to Internet. The issue seems to be related to DNS queries, however XP
doesn't have this problem.

-G



"Steve Jain" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
news:414tc4pvv26c1dqch002coltb9kgcr47tv@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:36:38 -0700, "Gilgamesh"
> <Gilgamesh4Ever@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
Quote:

>>I had Virtual PC installed on Windows 2003 SP2, and I was able to connect
>>an
>>XP pro VPC to internet. I then installed VIrtual Server 2005 because I
>>wanted to have Windows Server 2008 also hosted on this machine. Now if I
>>bring up XP within Virtual Server, it doesn't connect to internet even
>>thourgh I select loop back adaptor. So, somthing within Virtual server
>>isn't
>>consistant with VPC and they don't function the same way.
>>
>>Bottom line, after installing Windows server 2008 as virtual server, I can
>>neither have XP connected to internet no server 2008.
>>
>>-G
>>
>
> Not to change the subject, but you know you can install Windows 2008
> Server in VPC? You don't need to use Virtual Server to install a
> server OS.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
> I do not work for Microsoft.

My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 09-15-2008   #9 (permalink)
Bill Grant


 
 

Re: Virtual OS can't connect to internet

As a general rule, a server OS does not work well as an ICS client. Ben
Armstrong has discussed this before in his blog for Server 2003 client and
shared networking.

http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy...06/347965.aspx

Try manually configuring the DNS setting in the vm to point to the
loopback adapter's IP address.


"Gilgamesh" <Gilgamesh4Ever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eWoma34FJHA.1456@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Good point. I was able to start server 2008 from VPC but still can't
> connect to Internet. The issue seems to be related to DNS queries, however
> XP doesn't have this problem.
>
> -G
>
>
>
> "Steve Jain" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
> news:414tc4pvv26c1dqch002coltb9kgcr47tv@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:36:38 -0700, "Gilgamesh"
>> <Gilgamesh4Ever@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>
Quote:

>>>I had Virtual PC installed on Windows 2003 SP2, and I was able to connect
>>>an
>>>XP pro VPC to internet. I then installed VIrtual Server 2005 because I
>>>wanted to have Windows Server 2008 also hosted on this machine. Now if I
>>>bring up XP within Virtual Server, it doesn't connect to internet even
>>>thourgh I select loop back adaptor. So, somthing within Virtual server
>>>isn't
>>>consistant with VPC and they don't function the same way.
>>>
>>>Bottom line, after installing Windows server 2008 as virtual server, I
>>>can
>>>neither have XP connected to internet no server 2008.
>>>
>>>-G
>>>
>>
>> Not to change the subject, but you know you can install Windows 2008
>> Server in VPC? You don't need to use Virtual Server to install a
>> server OS.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>> I do not work for Microsoft.
>
>
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Old 09-16-2008   #10 (permalink)
Gilgamesh


 
 

Re: Virtual OS can't connect to internet

Great article. Changing DNS to 192.168.131.254 fixed the problem.
-G



"Bill Grant" <not.available@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23UM1fW5FJHA.1280@xxxxxx
Quote:

> As a general rule, a server OS does not work well as an ICS client. Ben
> Armstrong has discussed this before in his blog for Server 2003 client and
> shared networking.
>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/virtual_pc_guy...06/347965.aspx
>
> Try manually configuring the DNS setting in the vm to point to the
> loopback adapter's IP address.
>
>
> "Gilgamesh" <Gilgamesh4Ever@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eWoma34FJHA.1456@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> Good point. I was able to start server 2008 from VPC but still can't
>> connect to Internet. The issue seems to be related to DNS queries,
>> however XP doesn't have this problem.
>>
>> -G
>>
>>
>>
>> "Steve Jain" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
>> news:414tc4pvv26c1dqch002coltb9kgcr47tv@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 08:36:38 -0700, "Gilgamesh"
>>> <Gilgamesh4Ever@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I had Virtual PC installed on Windows 2003 SP2, and I was able to
>>>>connect an
>>>>XP pro VPC to internet. I then installed VIrtual Server 2005 because I
>>>>wanted to have Windows Server 2008 also hosted on this machine. Now if I
>>>>bring up XP within Virtual Server, it doesn't connect to internet even
>>>>thourgh I select loop back adaptor. So, somthing within Virtual server
>>>>isn't
>>>>consistant with VPC and they don't function the same way.
>>>>
>>>>Bottom line, after installing Windows server 2008 as virtual server, I
>>>>can
>>>>neither have XP connected to internet no server 2008.
>>>>
>>>>-G
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not to change the subject, but you know you can install Windows 2008
>>> Server in VPC? You don't need to use Virtual Server to install a
>>> server OS.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
>>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>>> I do not work for Microsoft.
>>
>>

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