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| | Hyper-V Highly Available Hi all, If I have 12 VMs on two nodes Windows 2008 x64 Enterprise servers and I configued it as A/A failover cluster, does that mean that I only need two service and application group which each group hosts 6VMs (one 6VMs active on node1 and another 6VMs active on node2 ) What if I go for A/A/A cluster with three nodes, does that mean I need three service and application groups (which each group hosts 4VMs (one 4VMs active on node1, one 4VMs on node2 and one 4 VMs on node3)? How do I configure PREFERRED OWNERS between them? any suggestions? Thank you! |
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| | Re: Hyper-V Highly Available I'm actually in the process of writing an article on this, which will be online in a few days. The trick is to have your virtual machines on separate clustered disks, when you add a new VM, the cluster service checks at what clustered disk the virtual machine is hosted. It will create "Service and application groups' based on what disks these Virtual Machines are found. Example: server1 server2 are on iSCSI Cluster Disk 1. server9 server8 are on iSCSI Cluster disk 2 When creating/importing vm's into cluster manager, it will create two groups, the first containing server1 and server2, the other containing server9 and server8. A mistake that would be easily made would be to expect each VM to be assignable to a node. Since we are using shared storage, that is of course not possible. Therefore the groups rather than the machines can have node affinity. If you have created separate groups as described above, you'll find that in the properties of the -groups- it is possible to select a particular node to be the 'preferred owner'. This way you can 'balance' the usage of resources on you fail over cluster. As said: I'll have a more in-depth & details article available soon on my website. Until then, I hope this explanation answers your question! / ) Regards, / /_________ _|__|__) Paul Weterings / (O_) http://www.servercare.nl __/ (O_) ____(O_) John wrote: Quote: > Hi all, > > If I have 12 VMs on two nodes Windows 2008 x64 Enterprise servers and I > configued it as A/A failover cluster, does that mean that I only need two > service and application group which each group hosts 6VMs (one 6VMs active on > node1 and another 6VMs active on node2 ) > > What if I go for A/A/A cluster with three nodes, does that mean I need three > service and application groups (which each group hosts 4VMs (one 4VMs active > on node1, one 4VMs on node2 and one 4 VMs on node3)? How do I configure > PREFERRED OWNERS between them? any suggestions? > > Thank you! > > > > > |
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| | Re: Hyper-V Highly Available Article is up: http://www.servercare.nl/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=72 / ) Regards, / /_________ _|__|__) Paul Weterings / (O_) http://www.servercare.nl __/ (O_) ____(O_) Paul Weterings wrote: Quote: > I'm actually in the process of writing an article on this, which will be > online in a few days. > > The trick is to have your virtual machines on separate clustered disks, > when you add a new VM, the cluster service checks at what clustered disk > the virtual machine is hosted. It will create "Service and application > groups' based on what disks these Virtual Machines are found. > > Example: > > server1 > server2 > > are on iSCSI Cluster Disk 1. > > server9 > server8 > > are on iSCSI Cluster disk 2 > > When creating/importing vm's into cluster manager, it will create two > groups, the first containing server1 and server2, the other containing > server9 and server8. > > A mistake that would be easily made would be to expect each VM to be > assignable to a node. Since we are using shared storage, that is of > course not possible. Therefore the groups rather than the machines can > have node affinity. > > If you have created separate groups as described above, you'll find that > in the properties of the -groups- it is possible to select a particular > node to be the 'preferred owner'. This way you can 'balance' the usage > of resources on you fail over cluster. > > As said: I'll have a more in-depth & details article available soon on > my website. Until then, I hope this explanation answers your question! > > > / ) Regards, > / /_________ > _|__|__) Paul Weterings > / (O_) http://www.servercare.nl > __/ (O_) > ____(O_) > > > John wrote: Quote: >> Hi all, >> >> If I have 12 VMs on two nodes Windows 2008 x64 Enterprise servers and >> I configued it as A/A failover cluster, does that mean that I only >> need two service and application group which each group hosts 6VMs >> (one 6VMs active on node1 and another 6VMs active on node2 ) >> >> What if I go for A/A/A cluster with three nodes, does that mean I need >> three service and application groups (which each group hosts 4VMs (one >> 4VMs active on node1, one 4VMs on node2 and one 4 VMs on node3)? How >> do I configure PREFERRED OWNERS between them? any suggestions? >> >> Thank you! >> >> >> >> >> |
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| | Re: Hyper-V Highly Available Great help and thank you for your efforts to help others. Quick quesions: The SAN should directly attached host if we do host clustering? Thank you. "Paul Weterings" wrote: Quote: > Article is up: > http://www.servercare.nl/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=72 > > > / ) Regards, > / /_________ > _|__|__) Paul Weterings > / (O_) http://www.servercare.nl > __/ (O_) > ____(O_) > > > Paul Weterings wrote: Quote: > > I'm actually in the process of writing an article on this, which will be > > online in a few days. > > > > The trick is to have your virtual machines on separate clustered disks, > > when you add a new VM, the cluster service checks at what clustered disk > > the virtual machine is hosted. It will create "Service and application > > groups' based on what disks these Virtual Machines are found. > > > > Example: > > > > server1 > > server2 > > > > are on iSCSI Cluster Disk 1. > > > > server9 > > server8 > > > > are on iSCSI Cluster disk 2 > > > > When creating/importing vm's into cluster manager, it will create two > > groups, the first containing server1 and server2, the other containing > > server9 and server8. > > > > A mistake that would be easily made would be to expect each VM to be > > assignable to a node. Since we are using shared storage, that is of > > course not possible. Therefore the groups rather than the machines can > > have node affinity. > > > > If you have created separate groups as described above, you'll find that > > in the properties of the -groups- it is possible to select a particular > > node to be the 'preferred owner'. This way you can 'balance' the usage > > of resources on you fail over cluster. > > > > As said: I'll have a more in-depth & details article available soon on > > my website. Until then, I hope this explanation answers your question! > > > > > > / ) Regards, > > / /_________ > > _|__|__) Paul Weterings > > / (O_) http://www.servercare.nl > > __/ (O_) > > ____(O_) > > > > > > John wrote: Quote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> If I have 12 VMs on two nodes Windows 2008 x64 Enterprise servers and > >> I configued it as A/A failover cluster, does that mean that I only > >> need two service and application group which each group hosts 6VMs > >> (one 6VMs active on node1 and another 6VMs active on node2 ) > >> > >> What if I go for A/A/A cluster with three nodes, does that mean I need > >> three service and application groups (which each group hosts 4VMs (one > >> 4VMs active on node1, one 4VMs on node2 and one 4 VMs on node3)? How > >> do I configure PREFERRED OWNERS between them? any suggestions? > >> > >> Thank you! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> |
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| | Re: Hyper-V Highly Available John wrote: Quote: > Great help and thank you for your efforts to help others. > > Quick quesions: The SAN should directly attached host if we do host > clustering? > > Thank you. > If I understand your question correct: yes. If you intend to cluster between the VM's the SAN should best be using directly attached to the VM's. Keep in mind that how you attach storage very much depends on the application you want highly available. (for example: don't run exchange 2007 on a Hyper-V cluster, but rather cluster two hyper-V VM's running Exchange as an Exchange CCR cluster..) I'm not sure what you will be running on the VM's, but just as some background information: MS has recently posted (http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...yperV2008.docx) the results of tests where they reported results of fixed size VHD's to be quite similar to pass-through storage. If you're intending to do an Exchange 2007 deployment on Hyper-V and cluster it: pass-through storage is advised: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc794548.aspx That will be my next article b.t.w. ;-) regards, -- / ) Regards, / /_________ _|__|__) Paul Weterings / (O_) http://www.servercare.nl __/ (O_) ____(O_) |
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| | Re: Hyper-V Highly Available Paul, Thank you for your expertise and efforts. Sorry to bother you again with this question: The general rule for Hyper-V VM highly available is per VM per LUN. What about VM with lots of drive letters and should we assign more LUNs to it? Thank you for your time. "Paul Weterings" wrote: Quote: > John wrote: Quote: > > Great help and thank you for your efforts to help others. > > > > Quick quesions: The SAN should directly attached host if we do host > > clustering? > > > > Thank you. > > > > If I understand your question correct: yes. If you intend to cluster > between the VM's the SAN should best be using directly attached to the > VM's. Keep in mind that how you attach storage very much depends on the > application you want highly available. (for example: don't run exchange > 2007 on a Hyper-V cluster, but rather cluster two hyper-V VM's running > Exchange as an Exchange CCR cluster..) > > I'm not sure what you will be running on the VM's, but just as some > background information: MS has recently posted > (http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...yperV2008.docx) > the results of tests where they reported results of fixed size VHD's to > be quite similar to pass-through storage. > > If you're intending to do an Exchange 2007 deployment on Hyper-V and > cluster it: pass-through storage is advised: > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc794548.aspx > > That will be my next article b.t.w. ;-) > > regards, > > -- > > / ) Regards, > / /_________ > _|__|__) Paul Weterings > / (O_) http://www.servercare.nl > __/ (O_) > ____(O_) > |
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