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Old 10-29-2008   #1 (permalink)
John


 
 

pass-through disk

Hi all,

With Windows 2008 hyper-V, when should we consider using pass-through disk?


thank you!

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Old 10-29-2008   #2 (permalink)
Charlie Russel - MVP


 
 

Re: pass-through disk

Never?

Seriously, the speed differential between fixed disks and passthrough is
pretty small. And you lose any ability to leverage the advantages of VHD, or
VSS support, etc. But if absolute speed is essential, and you have an
application such as SQL Server that will directly manage the disks, then it
might make sense. But I won't be using them at all.


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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"John" <John@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Hi all,
>
> With Windows 2008 hyper-V, when should we consider using pass-through
> disk?
>
>
> thank you!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-29-2008   #3 (permalink)
John


 
 

Re: pass-through disk

Thank you and thank you.

The general rule for Hyper-V VM highly available is per VM per LUN.

What about VM with lots of drive letters and should we assign more LUNs to
it?

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
Quote:

> Never?
>
> Seriously, the speed differential between fixed disks and passthrough is
> pretty small. And you lose any ability to leverage the advantages of VHD, or
> VSS support, etc. But if absolute speed is essential, and you have an
> application such as SQL Server that will directly manage the disks, then it
> might make sense. But I won't be using them at all.
>
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
> "John" <John@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:67FE32FE-0BED-42DD-B26A-5B5E1068FD8D@xxxxxx
Quote:

> > Hi all,
> >
> > With Windows 2008 hyper-V, when should we consider using pass-through
> > disk?
> >
> >
> > thank you!
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-30-2008   #4 (permalink)
Paul Weterings


 
 

Re: pass-through disk

Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
Quote:

> Never?
>
> Seriously, the speed differential between fixed disks and passthrough is
> pretty small. And you lose any ability to leverage the advantages of
> VHD, or VSS support, etc. But if absolute speed is essential, and you
> have an application such as SQL Server that will directly manage the
> disks, then it might make sense. But I won't be using them at all.
>
>
As Charlie mentions, there seems to be little performance difference. I
have not tested this myself yet, for me it's only hearsay. Did you do
tests yet Charlie?

However, the Exchange guys say this:

Quote:
We recommend using SCSI pass-through storage to host transport and
mailbox databases and transaction log files. Although using pass-through
disks limits the portability of virtual machines, this configuration has
shown to provide the best performance of all storage options for a
virtualized Exchange server.
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/ /_________
_|__|__) Paul Weterings
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__/ (O_)
____(O_)
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Old 10-30-2008   #5 (permalink)
Charlie Russel - MVP


 
 

Re: pass-through disk

No personal tests (my use is very different, and I almost always use
expanding disks). But this was as reported by the product team at the launch
event in Bellevue. I don't remember the number, but it was in the single
digits of percentage, at best.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Paul Weterings" <Paul-nospam-@xxxxxx-dot-com> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Charlie Russel - MVP wrote:
Quote:

>> Never?
>>
>> Seriously, the speed differential between fixed disks and passthrough is
>> pretty small. And you lose any ability to leverage the advantages of VHD,
>> or VSS support, etc. But if absolute speed is essential, and you have an
>> application such as SQL Server that will directly manage the disks, then
>> it might make sense. But I won't be using them at all.
>>
>>
> As Charlie mentions, there seems to be little performance difference. I
> have not tested this myself yet, for me it's only hearsay. Did you do
> tests yet Charlie?
>
> However, the Exchange guys say this:
>
>
Quote:
> We recommend using SCSI pass-through storage to host transport and mailbox
> databases and transaction log files. Although using pass-through disks
> limits the portability of virtual machines, this configuration has shown
> to provide the best performance of all storage options for a virtualized
> Exchange server.
>
>
> --
>
> / ) Regards,
> / /_________
> _|__|__) Paul Weterings
> / (O_) http://www.servercare.nl
> __/ (O_)
> ____(O_)
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 10-30-2008   #6 (permalink)
Charlie Russel - MVP


 
 

Re: pass-through disk

If you need a drive letter, you should assign a LUN to it, IMHO.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"John" <John@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Thank you and thank you.
>
> The general rule for Hyper-V VM highly available is per VM per LUN.
>
> What about VM with lots of drive letters and should we assign more LUNs to
> it?
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Never?
>>
>> Seriously, the speed differential between fixed disks and passthrough is
>> pretty small. And you lose any ability to leverage the advantages of VHD,
>> or
>> VSS support, etc. But if absolute speed is essential, and you have an
>> application such as SQL Server that will directly manage the disks, then
>> it
>> might make sense. But I won't be using them at all.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>>
>> "John" <John@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:67FE32FE-0BED-42DD-B26A-5B5E1068FD8D@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > With Windows 2008 hyper-V, when should we consider using pass-through
>> > disk?
>> >
>> >
>> > thank you!
>>
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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