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Old 11-06-2008   #1 (permalink)
Newbie


 
 

Installing Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to SBS 2008

I was able to install Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to Small Business Server
2008 64-bit no problem, however, when I try to bring up the admin web page,
I always need to run IE as administrator. Otherwise, I have no control of
the guest OS. If I bring up the web admin page from another computer, I
have no control of guest OS whatsoever.

Is there any way to get around this?

Thanks.



My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-06-2008   #2 (permalink)
Dan


 
 

RE: Installing Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to SBS 2008

Am I wrong, but doesn't SBS 2008 include Hyper-V? Why would you use Virtual
Server over Hyper-V in 2008. Only reason I can think of is if the hardware
doesn't support Hyper-V.

Did you try turn off UAC and see if that helps? I found UAC interferes with
some consoles like SCOM and SCC, but never tried Virtual Server on 2008.

"Newbie" wrote:
Quote:

> I was able to install Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to Small Business Server
> 2008 64-bit no problem, however, when I try to bring up the admin web page,
> I always need to run IE as administrator. Otherwise, I have no control of
> the guest OS. If I bring up the web admin page from another computer, I
> have no control of guest OS whatsoever.
>
> Is there any way to get around this?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-06-2008   #3 (permalink)
Charlie Russel - MVP


 
 

Re: Installing Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to SBS 2008

SBS 2008 is not supported as a virtual host. Not for Hyper-V and not for VS.

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http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Newbie" <nomail@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OSKEkZFQJHA.4004@xxxxxx
Quote:

>I was able to install Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to Small Business Server
>2008 64-bit no problem, however, when I try to bring up the admin web page,
>I always need to run IE as administrator. Otherwise, I have no control of
>the guest OS. If I bring up the web admin page from another computer, I
>have no control of guest OS whatsoever.
>
> Is there any way to get around this?
>
> Thanks.
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-06-2008   #4 (permalink)
Charlie Russel - MVP


 
 

Re: Installing Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to SBS 2008

No, SBS 2008 does NOT include Hyper-V. MS made a (good) decision to not
support virtualization with SBS as the host/parent. It _is_ supported as a
guest/child, and if you have SBS 2008 Premium you can use the included
Second Server as a Hyper-V parent and virtualize both servers. But you can
not use the main SBS server as a parent or virtual host.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Dan" <dmorris@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Am I wrong, but doesn't SBS 2008 include Hyper-V? Why would you use
> Virtual
> Server over Hyper-V in 2008. Only reason I can think of is if the
> hardware
> doesn't support Hyper-V.
>
> Did you try turn off UAC and see if that helps? I found UAC interferes
> with
> some consoles like SCOM and SCC, but never tried Virtual Server on 2008.
>
> "Newbie" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> I was able to install Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to Small Business Server
>> 2008 64-bit no problem, however, when I try to bring up the admin web
>> page,
>> I always need to run IE as administrator. Otherwise, I have no control
>> of
>> the guest OS. If I bring up the web admin page from another computer, I
>> have no control of guest OS whatsoever.
>>
>> Is there any way to get around this?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-06-2008   #5 (permalink)
Dan


 
 

Re: Installing Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to SBS 2008

Then what is this talking about? It states. "By using Windows SBS 2008
Premium and the Hyper-V technology, you can create a virtual networking
environment"

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../dd239202.aspx

"Charlie Russel - MVP" wrote:
Quote:

> SBS 2008 is not supported as a virtual host. Not for Hyper-V and not for VS.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
> "Newbie" <nomail@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:OSKEkZFQJHA.4004@xxxxxx
Quote:

> >I was able to install Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to Small Business Server
> >2008 64-bit no problem, however, when I try to bring up the admin web page,
> >I always need to run IE as administrator. Otherwise, I have no control of
> >the guest OS. If I bring up the web admin page from another computer, I
> >have no control of guest OS whatsoever.
> >
> > Is there any way to get around this?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
>
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-06-2008   #6 (permalink)
Steve Jain [MVP]


 
 

Re: Installing Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to SBS 2008

On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:39:01 -0800, Dan <dmorris@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

>Then what is this talking about? It states. "By using Windows SBS 2008
>Premium and the Hyper-V technology, you can create a virtual networking
>environment"
>
>http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../dd239202.aspx
>
It's not saying you can use SBS as a host for hyper-v.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../dd239205.aspx
"Microsoft strongly recommends that a parent partition contain only
the Hypervisor. Because of this, Windows SBS 2008 does not support
using the primary server as a Hyper-V parent partition"
and
"Windows SBS 2008 supports installation on a Hyper-V child partition."

It's saying you can run multiple SBS servers on a Hyper-V server.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-06-2008   #7 (permalink)
Dan


 
 

Re: Installing Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to SBS 2008

Ahhh. OK.

Thanks.

"Steve Jain [MVP]" wrote:
Quote:

> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:39:01 -0800, Dan <dmorris@xxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
Quote:

> >Then what is this talking about? It states. "By using Windows SBS 2008
> >Premium and the Hyper-V technology, you can create a virtual networking
> >environment"
> >
> >http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../dd239202.aspx
> >
>
> It's not saying you can use SBS as a host for hyper-v.
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../dd239205.aspx
> "Microsoft strongly recommends that a parent partition contain only
> the Hypervisor. Because of this, Windows SBS 2008 does not support
> using the primary server as a Hyper-V parent partition"
> and
> "Windows SBS 2008 supports installation on a Hyper-V child partition."
>
> It's saying you can run multiple SBS servers on a Hyper-V server.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-06-2008   #8 (permalink)
Steve Jain [MVP]


 
 

Re: Installing Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to SBS 2008

On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:34:00 -0800, Dan <dmorris@xxxxxx>
wrote:
Quote:

>Ahhh. OK.
>
>Thanks.
>
The article is confusing. It seems to imply that you can run Hyper-V
on SBS, until you start digging into the details.

--
Cheers,
Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
http://vpc.essjae.com/
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-06-2008   #9 (permalink)
Charlie Russel - MVP


 
 

Re: Installing Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to SBS 2008

Actually, it's saying you CAN use the second server in SBS Premium. The key
is the word PREMIUM. That includes a full copy of Windows Server 2008
Standard for a second server. If you choose to use the 64-bit version of
Server 2008 Standard, you can leverage that second server as a hyper-v
parent for your SBS network. You can virtualize both servers if you want, or
run the main SBS server on physical hardware and the second server as a
virtual host. But you can NOT run the main SBS server as a hyper-v parent.

Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel



--
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http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel

"Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
news:uh27h49cj0l3o0eroti60q2di69003hi03@xxxxxx
Quote:

> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:39:01 -0800, Dan <dmorris@xxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
Quote:

>>Then what is this talking about? It states. "By using Windows SBS 2008
>>Premium and the Hyper-V technology, you can create a virtual networking
>>environment"
>>
>>http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../dd239202.aspx
>>
>
> It's not saying you can use SBS as a host for hyper-v.
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../dd239205.aspx
> "Microsoft strongly recommends that a parent partition contain only
> the Hypervisor. Because of this, Windows SBS 2008 does not support
> using the primary server as a Hyper-V parent partition"
> and
> "Windows SBS 2008 supports installation on a Hyper-V child partition."
>
> It's saying you can run multiple SBS servers on a Hyper-V server.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
> http://vpc.essjae.com/
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Old 11-07-2008   #10 (permalink)
Tom Mason


 
 

Re: Installing Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 to SBS 2008

Mo' money, mo' money.

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"Charlie Russel - MVP" <charlie@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> Actually, it's saying you CAN use the second server in SBS Premium. The
> key is the word PREMIUM. That includes a full copy of Windows Server 2008
> Standard for a second server. If you choose to use the 64-bit version of
> Server 2008 Standard, you can leverage that second server as a hyper-v
> parent for your SBS network. You can virtualize both servers if you want,
> or run the main SBS server on physical hardware and the second server as a
> virtual host. But you can NOT run the main SBS server as a hyper-v parent.
>
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
>
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/charlie.russel
>
> "Steve Jain [MVP]" <noreply.-@-.essjae.com> wrote in message
> news:uh27h49cj0l3o0eroti60q2di69003hi03@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:39:01 -0800, Dan <dmorris@xxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
Quote:

>>>Then what is this talking about? It states. "By using Windows SBS 2008
>>>Premium and the Hyper-V technology, you can create a virtual networking
>>>environment"
>>>
>>>http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../dd239202.aspx
>>>
>>
>> It's not saying you can use SBS as a host for hyper-v.
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../dd239205.aspx
>> "Microsoft strongly recommends that a parent partition contain only
>> the Hypervisor. Because of this, Windows SBS 2008 does not support
>> using the primary server as a Hyper-V parent partition"
>> and
>> "Windows SBS 2008 supports installation on a Hyper-V child partition."
>>
>> It's saying you can run multiple SBS servers on a Hyper-V server.
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Steve Jain, Virtual Machine MVP
>> http://vpc.essjae.com/
>
My System SpecsSystem Spec
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